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Yep... it will be interesting to see how they handle future upgrades of this supposed "modular" Mac Pro.

It's funny... the other guys will let you add or swap pretty much anything inside their computers. There's no questioning it.

Meanwhile... Apple keeps everything locked down.

The ideas expressed in this thread would be a way for Apple to keep control... but still offer some upgradability.

But will they? Apple hasn't exactly been a great steward of pro Macs in recent years.

I really feel for you Mac people. You clearly love the OS and software... but it's strapped to hardware that Apple doesn't seem to care about lately.

Hopefully you will get what you've been waiting (years) for.

Or... have you had any experience with a Hackintosh? Would that actually be a credible option?

My only fear is that future MacOS versions will be tied to the T2 chip... making Hackintosh impossible.

Why are you commenting here if you don't use Macs?
 
Unimportant things like sound support? It may not be important to you, but that’s critical to me. And most other music/audio professionals, I suspect.
Sorry, irony doesn’t always get across in text. I was implying that yes: the hackintosh scene even of today suffers from drawbacks that are completely unacceptable to most professionals.
 
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Why are you commenting here if you don't use Macs?

I'm a general fan of Apple. I enjoy my iPhone and iPad. And I like to see what they do with computers.

Although I don't use Macs myself... I hate to see people struggle because of Apple's decisions lately. Apple's idea of what the "pro" user needs is questionable.

If I ever decide to use a Mac... I'd be a Mac Pro user. That's why I have an interest in this topic. :p
 
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Why? Were we used to pre-announcements?:)
Apple broke with the sit down last April-they recognized they had a flustercluck. Why do anything? Why the sit down? Apple needed to validate they haven’t abandoned the pros-here we are nearly a year later with nothing really. I don’t think they will ever ‘establish’ public roadmaps (insert forstall joke here) but I think the need to drop some sort of information-seriously a year out, at least something.
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Even in today's world, most non-iOS hardware stuff doesn't leak.
Yeah... “Mac” rumors are dead
 
The 2013 Mac Pro never leaked prior to it's WWDC reveal as I recall.
It was-also announced over 6 months before it actually shipped and was assembled in the US-helping to eliminate leaks. The 7,1/modular is in a much different position, although even when the 4,1 and 5,1 were shipping there were rumblings that Apple was abandoning the pro market, and when there wasn’t a Mac Pro available in the EU due to safety there was whispers, that really went unrealized for months if not years.

It’s shameful.
[doublepost=1521499186][/doublepost]What was once a flagship and pro-icon, is now the equivalent of the red-headed bastardized step-child, in the dark corner.
 
I would expect an announcement at WWDC (2018) since they announced the iMac Pro at WWDC 2017 and the current Mac Pro at WWDC 2013.
Now comes the Apple Bloggers to repeat they year-to year creed: "There is no hardware announcements at WWDC keynote its is mean a software event..." blah.. blah...

But I belive some elevator photo or a part miss at some bar should appear soon.
 
Now comes the Apple Bloggers to repeat they year-to year creed: "There is no hardware announcements at WWDC keynote its is mean a software event..." blah.. blah...

But I belive some elevator photo or a part miss at some bar should appear soon.
I just saw this outside an elevator in Cupertino.... Could it be a module from the modular Mac Pro? Notice how neatly the wires are bundled - Apple's attention to detail for sure.

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The same reason AidenShaw does?
I do not personally use Apple computers, but many people in my group use them to SSH into our Linux systems to do the real work. I do have a professional reason for following Apple systems - OMG, does that make me a "Pro"???

If Apple made a real workstation*, many of my users would want one on their desks.

* A "real workstation" would have at least dual Pascal or Volta GPUs, 512GiB to 2048GiB RAM, and at least 48/96 physical/logical cores. Until then, our Apples are just lightweight display terminals for the Linux boxes. (And friends and lovers at other Silicon Valley heavyweights concur that most engineers use their Apple laptops as lightweight SSH terminals for the Linux/AWS/Azure backend systems.)
 
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Now comes the Apple Bloggers to repeat they year-to year creed: "There is no hardware announcements at WWDC keynote its is mean a software event..." blah.. blah...

But I belive some elevator photo or a part miss at some bar should appear soon.

I feel like at this point they need to revisit that disclaimer, because at this point I think it's using historical trends that aren't that accurate any more. In the "modern Apple era" you've basically got 50:50 odds there's hardware (from 2006 to present 2007, 2008, 2011, 2014, 2015, 2016 had no product announcements, the other years all did.)

2017 had by my estimation the largest product slate in one of Apple's events in recent memory (updates to everything save the Mac mini and Mac Pro, the iMac Pro, HomePod, and tablets.)
 
I feel like at this point they need to revisit that disclaimer, because at this point I think it's using historical trends that aren't that accurate any more. In the "modern Apple era" you've basically got 50:50 odds there's hardware (from 2006 to present 2007, 2008, 2011, 2014, 2015, 2016 had no product announcements, the other years all did.)

2017 had by my estimation the largest product slate in one of Apple's events in recent memory (updates to everything save the Mac mini and Mac Pro, the iMac Pro, HomePod, and tablets.)
Forget about past trends.

They made the intention of releasing mMP public last April, didn't say anything during WWDC with only iMac Pro announcing release date to Dec. If this WWDC doesn't get a full-detail-ship-later launch, imagine what kind of press they will get.
 
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The 2013 Mac Pro never leaked prior to it's WWDC reveal as I recall.

Ha. I heard things about it, I just was smart enough not to run back here and post. :p

It wasn't leak proof. But the rumors also sounded strange (no PCIe slots?), and if they were right, could pinpoint sources too exactly and risk them.

A leak that the new Mac Pro is going to ship with *CURRENT GENERATION INTEL CPU* and *CURRENT GENERATION AMD OR NVIDIA GPU* with *INDUSTRY STANDARD CONNECTORS* is much harder to trace and honestly is hard to prove is more than just a guess. But with the Mac Pro design so custom now, spreading info is a risk.

Last year I heard they were finally updating the Mac Pro but that they had stayed with the Ivy Bridge architecture, which also seemed like a weird thing that wouldn't go over well in a post, but that ended up actually happening, just being less exciting that it sounds (the 2013 spec bump.)

But again, still haven't heard a single thing about the new one. If I do, you might not find me posting here for a bit anyway. I won't post anything that would risk anyone's job.
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* A "real workstation" would have at least dual Pascal or Volta GPUs, 512GiB to 2048GiB RAM, and at least 48/96 physical/logical cores. Until then, our Apples are just lightweight display terminals for the Linux boxes. (And friends and lovers at other Silicon Valley heavyweights concur that most engineers use their Apple laptops as lightweight SSH terminals for the Linux/AWS/Azure backend systems.)

To be fair to Apple, they've never been in that market. I was SSH'ing into more powerful boxes on my top tier Mac Pro 10 years ago. There is no glory days in Apple's history where they made a workstation of that caliber.
 
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It wasn't leak proof. But the rumors also sounded strange (no PCIe slots?), and if they were right, could pinpoint sources too exactly and risk them.
I remember one guy posting about the iMac Pro here, with specs down to Xeon and VEGA and number of TB3 ports, weeks/months before that viral blog post. It was a random reply out of the blue, naturally no one took it seriously, like, a workstation glued to the back of a monitor, who in the right mind would do that lol.
 
There’s a secret message! If you follow the cables you will fine out the message... so far I have D O N T F O R G E T T O...

To say there is a secret message was very cruel! Some of us hang on every word and idea about the up coming mMP.
First I counted the cables to make sure I followed the correct cable.
Secondly I found a website where I bought these
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for $1000.00! They told me I could see the secret message with out counting or following wires. I am going to figure out this Elevator/mMP/secret message thing and be the first with the mMP! You all wait and see! :p
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