I think you really missed the point i was saying, can't say it more clearly though so you have to figure it out on your own, or not
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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)
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Looking at the new MBP prices makes me worry. So even IF they manage to release a "proper" macPro next year ("proper" means an upgradable machine with PCI slots for me), what will it cost?
$10.000 for entry machine?
$24.999 maxed out?
And the poor souls living in the EU can multiply those prices by 1.5 ...
Actually, I am really thinking of giving up the wait right now and build my next hackintosh with i9-7900x, 64GB RAM, Samsung 970PRO NVME and a 1080Ti for a LOT less money. Those ASUS X299 Deluxe boards seem to be running very well. Hmmmmm.
$10.000 for entry machine?
$24.999 maxed out?
And the poor souls living in the EU can multiply those prices by 1.5 ...
Actually, I am really thinking of giving up the wait right now and build my next hackintosh with i9-7900x, 64GB RAM, Samsung 970PRO NVME and a 1080Ti for a LOT less money. Those ASUS X299 Deluxe boards seem to be running very well. Hmmmmm.
IF it has internal expandability / replaceable GPUs, it will sit at the same pricepoint as the equivalent processor iMac Pro. You won't be able to get it without buying a Vega pre-installed, and user upgradability will be the "free" bonus you get, the same way the iMac Pro is described as having a "free" 5k screen with the computer.
Don't expect to be able to undercut the iMac Pro. Keep your eyes fixed on the fact that the price premium of the Vega 64 iMac Pro over the Vega 56 version, is roughly the full cost of the Vega 64. There's nothing in the price to reflect that Apple didn't also supply you with the Vega 56. That'll give you a guide to the philosophy of pricing.
well it may be cheaper then imac pro / have an lower starting point with weaker base hardware vs imac pro start point.
In the past apple mac pros where on par with dell / hp workstations
I want that to be the case, but I don't think it will be.
Apple's self-identified /self-deluded problem with the 2013 Mac Pro was that they couldn't fit the GPU's in the small enclosure and cool them effectively. What do you really think their answer will be - a bigger tower with more space for cooling, OR, get rid of the graphics cards entirely, put in an ARM-based chip to handle basic display & boot screens, and make...
<jonyive>The most pure expression of an external-graphics-based workstation possible</jonyive>
...so all proper GPUs go into an external, on a strangled thunderbolt3 connection.
Whenever Apple produces a bad answer to a problem, they tend to argue that the problem is at fault. They prefer to eliminate the opportunity for a problem, rather than solve it. "How do we adequately cool graphics cards?" "we eliminated the graphics card".
This sums up (Tim Cooks) Apple in recent years.
Seems the easier way...
The new ttrMBP 15" is a beast. With a price tag to go along with it, fully loaded
T2 will be coming to the mMP 2019 too.
The new ttrMBP 15" is a beast. With a price tag to go along with it, fully loaded
T2 will be coming to the mMP 2019 too.
Tim delivered, for those who were screaming for a 32GB machine, there you have it.
2015 model is no more. Only TB3 from now on.
Weird launch though, no notice (that I know of).
[doublepost=1531507245][/doublepost]2K for an mMP? No way in h3ll I'd say. Double that and maybe, just maybe...
Maybe the new Mini, even less
[doublepost=1531508335][/doublepost]Just realized, the only 15" models available now are the new 2018 ones, no 2017? You have to buy a 6 core machine if you want a 15"er? They kept the 13" older 2017 models, just killed the 2015 ones.
A 4 core 16GB LPDD3 15" machine would be good enough for many and now you can't have one? Odd.
The 4TB SSD option costs more than the ttrMBP 15" itself. Yaicks.
2015 model is no more. Only TB3 from now on.
Weird launch though, no notice (that I know of).
[doublepost=1531507245][/doublepost]2K for an mMP? No way in h3ll I'd say. Double that and maybe, just maybe...
Maybe the new Mini, even less
[doublepost=1531508335][/doublepost]Just realized, the only 15" models available now are the new 2018 ones, no 2017? You have to buy a 6 core machine if you want a 15"er? They kept the 13" older 2017 models, just killed the 2015 ones.
A 4 core 16GB LPDD3 15" machine would be good enough for many and now you can't have one? Odd.
The 4TB SSD option costs more than the ttrMBP 15" itself. Yaicks.
This is the first time I have seen this designation. And for the life of me I can’t figure it out.
I'm just saying that the first Apple blessed eGPU was actually Sonnet's eGFX Breakaway Box, which has a replaceable card, and a Vega version. Apple used to sell the 580 version to developers, and it was the first officially supported breakout box on their support pages.
So the Blackmagic eGPU is not the first they've endorsed, and the first one they did endorse had a replaceable GPU. As far as I know the Sonnet one is just as Apple blessed as it was before the Blackmagic one.
I read what you said. You said that the Blackmagic one is the first Apple blessed one, and you thought that was because it had a soldered GPU. That's wrong on both counts.
Apple was still demoing with the Sonnet at WWDC this year too, both with Vega and the 580.
Afaik the so called 'Radeon Pro 580' is the same card as in the iMac. Weaker than a real RX 580. I may be wrong.
Apple, billionaire company with no brain. Who actually runs that company? Siri?
If only the mac blogaratti could be convinced to replace "Pro" with "Slow", there'd be accurate reportage of Apple's specs.
"Radeon Slow 580."
Perhaps a browser plugin, that just replaces "Pro" with "Slow" in any context of an Apple product name?
Hey Siri, design me a computer.
It's a beast alright, once it's fully equipped with the dongles you need to actually use it ...
Siri has a kind of a "brain" anyway... we could expect better results.
Aldaris, I made it up. True Tone Retina MacBook Pro 
Sorry, just couldn't help it
Sorry, just couldn't help it
I'm so sick of waiting for the modular Mac Pro. All Apple needs to do is build a simple workstation that runs macOS. It's not a big deal! Yet Apple feels the need to reinvent the wheel. Unfortunately, I've noticed that when Tim Cook's Apple has tried to reinvent the wheel on other occasions in recent years, they've changed it from being circular to being more egg-shaped (AKA, less efficient and productive than before). The 2013 Mac Pro, the iPhone 7 (and beyond), and the 2015 MacBook Pro are all great examples, and they're all design failures in my book. They all left convenience and functionality on the table in favor of some mystical, inexplicable reason that involves removing helpful features that everyone loved. I genuinely fear that the mMP will follow the same trend.
I wish they would offer an up to date processor board, and logic board to upgrade the cMP case. No doubt it would be a prosperous venture. All new tech for the cMP... They could do this easily I would think.
I think we will be seeing what none of us really want... I think we really will see boxes strand together via thunderbolt, and cpu's, logic boards, gpus in sealed boxes (like the Blackmagic egpu). I would love to be proven wrong (and I'll admit I am feeling on the positive side with the latest MacBook Pro update, regarding the pro). Some of the reviews (I think iMore) mentioned that the "Pro" consultant team was involved in the workflow design, as they were putting this together. I really think we are going to see sealed, soldered, switch-out boxes.
