Absolutely agree that they are losing mindshare. It might be a small 2% and probably less than 1% total revenue, but those buying in pro fields (professional and prosumer) generate a lot of free connection/word of mouth marketing. I’d be lying if I said I haven’t been looking at other options amongst all competing devices. This is the longest I have gone without an iPhone upgrade (still on a 6) just because I’m not sure how much of a future I have with Apple-if I’m forced to a Boxx or HP Z, that already opens me up out of the Mac ecosystem.
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Why would not buying a Mac stop you from upgrading your iPhone? I had an iPhone long before I had a Mac computer.
I've never understood the whole "ecosystem" thing. Sure it's neat that I can text and get calls via my Mac but not having those things with windows is not the end of the world.
It's not a deal breaker but it is annoying. I switched to mostly Windows for performance reasons, one thing I do miss is the tighter integration between iOS and my desktop OS.
I don't miss it enough to put up with the massive performance gap that Apples current desktops force, but annoying.
So once you lose that integration then there is one less reason to use iOS.
I had a Mac long before an iPhone, and for me it complements the system, I can take calls and text on any phone, browse and have media on any phone. Being able to have contacts calendars and essentially everything on my computer available on my device is great-take away the Mac side and there is no reason to have an iPhone at least in my case. You’re absolutely right it isn’t the end of the world but using an android device wouldn’t be the end of the world either.
If I’m in a Windows workflow, I’ll have something other than an iPhone. The ecosystem is great-things work sync and iCloud has really matured between iOS and Mac take away the Mac and for me there is absolutely no reason to stay with iOS. Guess it’s just being old.
Nah I think its more that for all the technology and features available to us today. I really don't full take advantage of it.
there's more to it than iMessages and phone calls.. even though those two are cool and beneficial and usable..
contacts/emails/files are in all locations.. put it on one and it populates the rest (in some cases, files which are edited on phones&computers (Numbers.app) and in some cases 2D/3D drawings&models which are created on macs then viewed/used/communicated on iOS).. even features like Handoff are neat and usable.. as well as all the password syncing and money syncing (bank accts and now applePay.).. shoot a photo on iPhone and it's on your macs..
those are things i use on a daily or weekly basis and the reason it's sweet is because the user has to do very little or often, nothing at all.
i'm sure there are more daily things i do within the 'ecosystem thing' that i'm not thinking of right now.
this is one of the ways they keep me satisfied as a customer and continuing to buy within their product range as opposed to going elsewhere.. (i use their phone, desktop, and laptop)..
if i switched away from Macs, i think i would be more likely to switch away from iPhone.. which, thinking about it now, i haven't ever considered doing before..
Many of them in North Korea, China and Russia.
/jk
But do consider the risks when the bad guys find bugs and get into that data (note that I said "when", not "if").
I've considered both for different reasons.
If my trusty old 4,1>5,1 kicks the bucket and the 7,1 is reality, I'll do a price comparison, and if the equivalent-spec Windows workstations really are significantly cheaper, I may switch. Most of my software is cross-platform, and I'm sure there are alternatives for the stuff that isn't.
I love the iPhone, but I'd consider an Android phone on the strength of Google Maps and Voice. Gmaps has effectively replaced my in-dash navigation, and its voice recognition is way ahead of Siri.
Apple Carplay looks cool, but being restricted to Apple Maps and Siri is gonna be a PITA. It'd be inconvenient to let Apple Music and podcasts go, but I'd just replace the former with Spotify and surely there must be a unified podcast app for Android as well.
I have two 3rd-gen Apple TV's that I love, but no way in hell would I pay $150+ for the current gens. I have an old Roku2, and it was fine; I'd happily buy a newer model to replace my AppleTV's when the time comes.
My 2015 MacBookPro is a solid little computer, but I can't see myself buying one of the new models; no magsafe, uncomfortable QWERTY, and much more expensive. Not to mention all the adapters I'd need to connect stuff (for now).
Which leaves me with the one Apple product I would not want to replace with anything else: my 4th-gen iPad. It won't run iOS11 and when my critical apps are no longer supported on iOS10 I will get a 10.5" iPadPro. It's remarkable how much of my generic computing needs are met by the iPad. It still sucks for select/copy/paste large chunks of text, but for the most part it is just really good. The clumsy text selection is offset somewhat by the built-in LTE, superior battery life and portability.
Now, if Apple made a new MacBookAir with cellular capability, I may feel differently, but as it is, the iPad is good enough at most things for me to make peace with the things it doesn't do well.
i understand your points.. the one that stands out most as an opposite for me is magsafe..
i'll be glad on the day i finally replace that one.
it's so finicky/flakey for me.. i'm on my third charger with my 3yr old MBP and those things aren't cheap.
that said, my laptop is on the shop floor pretty much daily and the environment isn't too good for this type of stuff.. everything else holds up well, exceedingly well in some instances, except plugging in to power.. but i do think USB-C will fare a lot better than magsafe in my usages.
at the risk of going into the weeds on laptops, there are quite a few solutions that are effectively a magsafe usb-c connector, which leaves a small (less than 5mm) bump on one of your ports if you want to leave it permanently installed. they don't look so large that they'd catch on anything, so that's sortof solved.
One FYI - Google Play Music is available in CarPlay, as I found out almost by accident.
For good. It's always a treat to find independent specialty system builders.
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Yeah, because we need more accidents in the LA county area.
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Hmm, I would have thought a USB-C charger on a shop floor is much more of a hazard than a magsafe...trip over the cord and pick up your laptop from the floor.
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Interesting, how'd you find out? But I'm not that interested in Google Music. If Google Maps would work with CarPlay, however, I'd never switch to Android.
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There's no such thing as 'ecosystem', anymore, between mobile devices and computers. By the time mobile devices went on separate ways (and apple followed that route as well as all the others, and rightly so), this 'tight integration' just passed away. Who is masochist enough to uses iTunes to sync iPhones and iPads anymore ?
Contacts, bookmarks etc is not enough to consist an ecosystem. Besides, these features are integrated in competitive platforms as well.
Contacts, bookmarks etc is not enough to consist an ecosystem. Besides, these features are integrated in competitive platforms as well.
Airdrop - I don't want to have to use a dedicated app, a cable, or a cloud service to move things between my computer and iOS devices.
*edit* I still use iTunes for sync - no way under the sun I'm going to download a podcast, or a movie, separately on 3 different devices, or stream it, or use a server on the other side of the world to move it 12 inches across my desk.
*edit* I still use iTunes for sync - no way under the sun I'm going to download a podcast, or a movie, separately on 3 different devices, or stream it, or use a server on the other side of the world to move it 12 inches across my desk.
Remembers few "leaks/predictions" from DNG:
Another MacBook Pro, thicker, 32GB ram also anticipated by KGI (maybe full AMD too).
A Duo of Mac Minis, an Server specific mac mini comes back, macOS server re-launch.
An all AMD Three GPU m-MacintoshPro with glass on sides
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This thread is close to half million views.
Another MacBook Pro, thicker, 32GB ram also anticipated by KGI (maybe full AMD too).
A Duo of Mac Minis, an Server specific mac mini comes back, macOS server re-launch.
An all AMD Three GPU m-MacintoshPro with glass on sides
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This thread is close to half million views.
in theory, yes.. that said, i generally coil the the power adapter near the laptop (or any fragile connection) then plug into an extension cord at that point.. if someone trips over the cord then there's about 12' worth of uncoiling that would have to happen prior to affecting the laptop.
i could take some photos/videos to show the problems i have with magsafe but for the most part, the problems i experience with it are also experienced by many others and voiced at Apple's own store amongst other places.. i'm not sure about this but i think magsafe (all iterations of it) is the worst reviewed product at Apple.. averaging 1.5 out of 5: (and if you do the math, it's actually 1.25 rating)
https://www.apple.com/ca_smb_en/shop/product/MD506LL/A/apple-85w-magsafe-2-power-adapter-for-macbook-pro-with-retina-display?fnode=8b&fs=f=charger&fh=4595%2B45d4
i know a lot of people at macRumors complain about no more magsafe but out in the wild, i think the general opinion tells a different story.
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And this at least picked up from one or two prior threads that were closed for coming of the rail...The longes thread for the longest wait...
Not going to happen. Apple will wait for Intel to support LPDDR4 so they can keep the current case design.
macOS Server is available now in the App Store. Has been for years.
As to the Mac Mini, I am starting to strongly believe the product is End of Life. The only other option is that it will be completely redesigned and if that was the case, why not mention it back in April with the Mac Pro announcement rather than say "oh yeah, we still make that, don't we?".
Ph.D disputes that, so I guess it's who you choose to believe.
Bwahahahahahahaha oh boy his credibility just died with me.
Ohhhhh that was a good laugh. Whew.
Lets see, KGI and DNG said it will be the most radically redesigned mac this year, what could be more radical than a custom AMD APU instead Intel?
What I see is Apple its just aware the big NAS market, it cheapest-quick weapon to get into this market its macOS Server along the right hardware current mini its a joke, also macOS server lacks tons of features and services (which could be quickly added) readily available on NAS, an mac OS server Overhaul needs to follow this MacMini-NAS.
What needs more Salt? those three GPUs or that 40" 8K display?