MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)

[flat five]

Aluminum/Glass chassis, glass on the sides, aluminum on the frames/grill

are you thinking glass which forms a window? as in, you can see the innards of the computer?
if so, i highly doubt this as being an accurate leak because i also highly doubt Apple is going to sell a product which from the outside has visible circuit boards/ram modules/etc. (unless the internal modules were finished/polished as well?)..

or do you think more like the phones? glass but not windows to the inside.

 

[Peace]

So basically it's rectangular instead of round.

Hope they learned about cooling.

 

[Mago]

assuming they will use generic M.2 and not lock us into something proprietary.

I bet you 2 cents Apple won't allow neither std M.2 nor 2.1/2 spinners/ssd.

i highly doubt this as being an accurate leak because i also highly doubt Apple is going to sell a product which from the outside has visible circuit boards/ram modules/etc

DNG stands on it somewhat seems inspired by the iPhone, the glass on the iPhones have never been transparent.

I imagine it more like the black iPhone 4, a shiny metal mid frame with myriads of laser-drilled holes for ventilation on the center and opaque black sidewalls with an big apple logo, the whole structure opens to the front like the hood from antique europeans cars/trucks.

 

[Kpjoslee]

I bet you 2 cents Apple won't allow neither std M.2 nor 2.1/2 spinners/ssd.

DNG stands on it somewhat seems inspired by the iPhone, the glass on the iPhones have never been transparent.

I imagine it more like the black iPhone 4, a shiny metal mid frame with myriads of laser-drilled holes for ventilation on the center and opaque black sidewalls with an big apple logo, the whole structure opens to the front like the hood from antique europeans cars/trucks.

If those rumors are close to being correct, i expect all the memory and storages will be user-serviceable, and CPUs will use standard sockets. It will be just GPUs being in custom module.

 

[0388631]

I fail to see the allure of opaque glass panels or glass-on-metal design like the iPhone 4. I would think Pro consumers are more interested in hardware inside versus the visual appeal. I suspect Apple thought the opposite as they came out with the trash can several years ago.
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1S when people have been clamoring for 2S

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[singhs.apps]

Sockets

 

[Aldaris]

I fail to see the allure of opaque glass panels or glass-on-metal design like the iPhone 4. I would think Pro consumers are more interested in hardware inside versus the visual appeal. I suspect Apple thought the opposite as they came out with the trash can several years ago.
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I think they still don't get it.

Given the two boxes described, one with glass sides and the other on a polished black pedestal both great drool worthy art pieces, but the market they lost want some power-not something to languish 4 years later...

 

[AidenShaw]

Gag. A standard PC's PCIe video card design would be much preferred. Apple needs to consider that the HP Z8 series workstation would much better fit the hardware design preferences of many of those waiting on a new "Mac Pro" machine. And: it's likely easily Hackintoshible, as well.
Or: simply license HP to offer a Z8 workstation with macOS factory installed (and a Mac friendly UEFI bios to go with it), and forget any kind of proprietary video card solution, as well as "old european car's hood" tomfoolery.

But "Mac friendly" means "Linux and Windows hostile".

Apple should simply support the current version of UEFI. How can they rail against proprietary interfaces when they need proprietary firmware just to boot?

 

[0388631]

I think they still don't get it.

Given the two boxes described, one with glass sides and the other on a polished black pedestal both great drool worthy art pieces, but the market they lost want some power-not something to languish 4 years later...

You would think their R&D department would know this, as you and I pointed out. Even I remember them saying "We listened to our professional users and we came out with this..." Maybe they presume that the majority of Pro owners are like Patrick Bateman a la the business card scene, and would rather masturbate to their Mac Pros than use them. Who knows.

 

[mattspace]

so if these leaks are to be believed, yet another machine dedicated to solving the problem of "how to shorten the service life of a Mac Pro".

 

[singhs.apps]

I am at a loss to understand why someone would invest in the smaller design of the Mac Pro when the upcoming iMac Pro would give similar performance and specs ?

 

[William Payne]

Here is a link to the product feedback section for the Mac Pro. Why not everyone just give apple their thoughts? Have your say!!

https://www.apple.com/feedback/mac-pro.html

 

[flat five]

Here is a link to the product feedback section for the Mac Pro. Why not everyone just give apple their thoughts? Have your say!!

https://www.apple.com/feedback/mac-pro.html

it might be a little late for that


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not meaning it's too late to give feedback..
just that it's maybe too late to provide input which changes the course of the next MacPro design.
the design is likely finalized or near finalization.
(obviously-- guessing)

 

[William Payne]

it might be a little late for that


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not meaning it's too late to give feedback..
just that it's maybe too late to provide input which changes the course of the next MacPro design.
the design is likely finalized or near finalization.
(obviously-- guessing)

Don't let that stop anyone.

 

[flat five]

DNG stands on it somewhat seems inspired by the iPhone, the glass on the iPhones have never been transparent.

I imagine it more like the black iPhone 4, a shiny metal mid frame with myriads of laser-drilled holes for ventilation on the center and opaque black sidewalls with an big apple logo, the whole structure opens to the front like the hood from antique europeans cars/trucks.

they should do the grater_ing except on the glass elements instead of aluminum.

 

[CWallace]

Gag. A standard PC's PCIe video card design would be much preferred. Apple needs to consider that the HP Z8 series workstation would much better fit the hardware design preferences of many of those waiting on a new "Mac Pro" machine.

Let's be serious - the last thing Apple is going to do is just make a generic PC box that looks like an HP or a Dell.

 

[antonis]

Here is a link to the product feedback section for the Mac Pro. Why not everyone just give apple their thoughts? Have your say!!

https://www.apple.com/feedback/mac-pro.html

One would assume that there are already more than enough thoughts gathered from 2013 and forth.
But someone has to read them for this to work.

 

[William Payne]

I’d assume there are already more than enough thoughts gathered from 2013 and forth.
But someone has to read them for this to work.

the probably with assumption is if everyone assumes everyone else has said something then nobody says anything.

 

[Ph.D.]

Let's be serious - the last thing Apple is going to do is just make a generic PC box that looks like an HP or a Dell.

Exactly. That's why rumors about specs are so boring. If it's from Dell or HP, it's about the specs, and only about the specs. If it's from Apple, it's about the piece of art, too, and that's half the fun.

Yes, I want that space gray aluminum Monolith on its polished black pedestal (with some decent specs).

 

[vailr]

Let's be serious - the last thing Apple is going to do is just make a generic PC box that looks like an HP or a Dell.

Okay, if they want to return to yesteryear's cheese cutter box with new insides, that's one option.
But maybe they should re-arrange the seriousness of how they consider what the potential MacPro customer wants and needs. I don't expect any Apple hardware design would be an improvement over the new HP Z8 workstation.
Could Apple cobble together something that looks (from the outside) more like something "designed by Apple"?
I suppose, but does the target audience really want "good looks" or do they really want "works good for the money paid"?
So: Apple needs to get off their MacPro tailspin spiral into the ground, that started with the previous cheese cutter MacPro 5,1 being taken off the European market for non-compliance with EU safety laws. Apple could have mildly re-engineered it to fix that problem, but they simply didn't want to bother.

 

[Kpjoslee]

Exactly. That's why rumors about specs are so boring. If it's from Dell or HP, it's about the specs, and only about the specs. If it's from Apple, it's about the piece of art, too, and that's half the fun.

Yes, I want that space gray aluminum Monolith on its polished black pedestal (with some decent specs).

Well, we are talking about workstation. Of course specs are most important things. Just look at what happened with last Mac Pro. It just ended up being beautiful looking trash(can).

 

[singhs.apps]

Why can it not be both beautiful and powerful ?

Why should one have to come at the cost of the other ?

 

[Ph.D.]

Well, we are talking about workstation. Of course specs are most important things.

OK, no problem: HP stands ready. Done.

Still here? That's fine too. We can all continue to spin rumors into facts and debate what Apple's direction should be, e.g.:

* Just bring back the cheese-grater!
* Something up-gradable yet quiet, not too hot and not too imposing, with a little elegance.
* Don't care, but it needs to look expensive and not garner a mocking nick-name.
* One word: "Modular!"

In the end, we'll all find something to complain about anyway.

 

[William Payne]

Ph.D I think you will find people just want an expandable workstation like the cheese grater mac pro was. It can be the most beautiful machine in the world but if it doesn't have things like user expandable ram, pcie slots, a choice of user upgradable gpu's and other things found in other workstations like for examples ones supplied by dell and hp then it is very limiting for some users.

There is a crap load of people who never migrated to the trashcan mac pro and stayed with the cheese grater models because of those exact needs for an upgradable mac os workstation.

Nobody is saying it has to be super duper ugly, it just needs to deliver internally irrelevant of how artistic they go with the case.

 

[0388631]

* One word: "Modular!"

Yes! For the love of everything, it's the only thing people have wanted since sliced bread. Or in this case, since the grater was slated to go away into the ether.