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And Apple Maps is still a running joke, now over 2 years later.

Look, I think Scott was a decent guy; he almost seems like a younger Steve Jobs.

But we probably wouldn't have such things as live icons, app extensions, handoff and continuity making iOS much more powerful than it was even just a year ago.

I'd rather have a few bumpy bugs along the way of progress than being stuck back in the stone age. Just judging on iOS progress during the Scott days, and the post-Scott days, we're in a better place.


Yes, because Scott Forstall has shown he is more than capable of saving a company by himself, with all that great cloth looking software.

Give me a break. iOS 6 was garbage and its creator will not be saving Apple.
 
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Funny, iOS 7 and 8 add a bunch of "features Androids have had for years", and things go to crap.

iOS 6 seems so "Windows XP" nowadays. Seriously, have you played on a device with it recently? It's fairly horrible, IMO.

What makes you say that?

It wouldn't be the first time a polarizing figure departed Apple under a cloud, only to return and - quite literally - save the company.



Full article at the NY Times website: What Steve Jobs Learned in the Wilderness
Yep prime example was Steve Jobs himself he didn't leave voluntarily the first time by the way
 
While I miss Scott for his enthusiasm on stage and the somewhat "classier" pre-iOS 7 look, I cannot say that things were always smooth. iOS 5 was an abomination of bugs, and they weren't fixed till 5.1.1, and even back then, iOS 5 killed any kind of speed the iPad 1 had, and got to the degree that Safari was literally unusable. iOS 8 on the other hand is actually faster than iOS 7 on the A5-powered iPad Mini from my usage. iOS 6 almost brought nothing to the table, other than the unfinished Apple maps, Facebook integration, and Shared Photo Stream.

Scott had to go because he was still living under the shadow of Steve Jobs, and the only way for Apple to move forward was to get rid of that mentality. Apple under Tim Cook feels different from Steve's-era, and I'm not sure it's even better, but at least the company feels fresh and they're willing to work out new ideas and brings new things to the table.

iOS 8 is buggy indeed, but like most iOS upgrades, almost all will be fixed with 8.1

This sums up my feelings to a T. When iOS 8.1 comes out, let's see how smooth it runs then. Except for the few bugs, I'm loving what I've got so far.
 
iOS 7 & 8 were so ugly after he left, he needs to really come back and fix it.
 
Forstall most likely won't be back, but there's no denying that iOS was less buggy under his watch. Not sure what the software team is doing...

I'll tell you what they are doing. They are adding features at a breakneck pace. After the full redesign in ios7 and the crazy number of new features added in ios8, it might be a good time to do a Snow Leopard style "polish" update in iOS9 and hold off on adding even more features and APIs.
 
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