The only redesign they need are thinner bezels. Ivy can take his thinness fetish and apply it to the bezels. Leave everything else alone. Update the guts, thin out the bezels, release them immediately.
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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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The amount of blowback they'd get from people holding out would be far too great. Not worth the bad press/marketing you'd get. You don't hold out on an update, then finally do one (albeit completely minor) and then throw all that away with a significant update just a couple months later. The only people buying the pros are corporations that don't care about the latest/greatest, just what's currently available. And people that have no choice because their exiting machine died. Doing a minor update doesn't change those people's decisions. On the other hand, there are people (myself included) that want an upgrade, but would rather have the latest. To, essentially, trick us into buying a minor 'refresh' only to release a new model a couple months later makes no sense. You'd want people to hold out and buy those latest models to get them out into the public.
Re operating systems: Sometimes design innovation slows because the design is already good. MS felt a burning need to innovate, and we wound up with Windows 8. What exactly do you want Apple to do with MacOS? Please don't say touch screen.
tl;dr - Apple is doing the right thing by keeping the core UX of MacOS as it is.
The redesign will involve a lot more than that.
The aesthetics will be similar (in tune with previous designs). But the guts will be completely replaced with amazingly low power components. Couple that with an even lower power CPU (Kabylake) and integrated GPU with OSX 10.12 (even more power shavings) and you will be able to do light development work all day on a single charge!
The MBP will be delayed until OSX 10.12 and Kaby Lake are ready.
Prepare for an absolutely amazing battery life experience. But Apple needs to delay until OSX 10.12 and the next gen chips are ready. They're stuck. They have to delay.
It would be foolish to forge ahead with a product that only matches the competition. Apple needs to lead. This is their flagship portable developer product. It has to be 100% right.
Got sources? or are you done trolling?
It will not last 3-4 months. In that way it would be offered along new MBP's just like it was with cMBP with optical drive when Retina came along.
And leaving 13 and 15 inch with iGPU only makes sense in this context. Because dGPU will be available only from Q2/Mid year of 2016(Polaris). Pascal low end - do not expect it until late 2016.
Since when has Apple lead with components? They still offer 128gb SSD on the Air... The 15 inch rMBP is still harbouring a Haswell processor... There are 4k panels out on Windows laptops... They don't need to LEAD anything. What the heck are you flapping on about?
Apple should seriously hire you as Selling Manager.
Where did this whole "Apple has to delay for <magic chips/Touch ID/unicorns" nonsense come from?
I think most people prefer updated machines on a semi-regular schedule as opposed to "trust us in an unspecified amount of time we'll ship something" mode.
The chips are there. Who the hell wants to wait.
I think most people prefer updated machines on a semi-regular schedule as opposed to "trust us in an unspecified amount of time we'll ship something" mode.
The chips are there. Who the hell wants to wait.
Dude, what planet are you on? It would make more sense to update the processors to keep pace with the competition, whilst working on innovative products that take the lead. Right now Apple's products are using out dated processors...so what you're saying makes absolutely no sense. Aside from the fact that there's no way Apple's waiting a year or more to update their notebooks. Sorry pal, not happening.
If there are not enough chipsets, Apple will release it anyway and the delay time will be to the customer receiving the Mac, but not on the release time. Like Mac Pro.
Over again... Why Apple CAN'T release a Macbook on a hardware conference, but they CAN in a software conference? This argument makes no sense. Apple will do whatever they wan't to do, they don't follow any rules.
And the most important thing: there won't be any Kabylake in July/August chips that fit MBPs, the only chips available (if Intel doesn't delay, which is probable), will be core-M and as much 15W for Macbook Airs or so.
Seriously, again? Dell hasn't had any flagship machine like MBP 15" in 2015, since the Skylake chips needed to do so haven't been released until 2016. Simply impossible, Dell couldn't.
Appart from that, Apple is not the first in everything, this argument is not valid. If we had to follow your rule, Apple wouldn't have ever released multitasking in iOS since Android had it many time ago, and instead they would have implemented a hyper-spatial-hologram multitasking projection or whatever you like, just to be the leading company.
"There is no worse blind man than the one who doesn't want to see. There is no worse deaf man than the one who doesn't want to hear. And there is no worse madman than the one who doesn't want to understand."
Please, make an effort to understand what others here are trying to tell you: there's no way Apple is waiting for Kaby lake on the fall of the year for MBPs. Kabby lake chips for 13" and especially 15" won't be released until spring-mid 2017 or so, it's the every year Intel schedule. Apple is still on Haswell with the 15" MBPs, they already skipped Broadwell... They won't skip Skylake (which is a great update) to have in 2017 a flagship computer with 2013 technology inside.
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Think we just should ignore him from here on out.
MacBooks don't get their own events. They will be a sidenote at the end of the keynote.
Apple does not attempt to lead on specs. Most Mac consumers don't even know what a "Skylake" is. They just know that current MBPs are getting old, and might not be a good value.
Personnally I bet on a skylake release in the coming month at least for the 13/14 mbp, with 3 or 4 TB3/USB C ports (not necessarilly all TB3 enabled), slightly smaller bezels, slightly thinner, and with the MB keyboard (might not please everybody but I wouldn't care)
Most people don't care if they aren't perusing the site, true that. Last two times I was at the Apple Store earlier this year and saw a few 15" retinas moving, customers gleeful. I was shocked. I wanted to say "hey you, wait until March" but I probably would've been escorted out.
And why not, these people probably wouldn't notice a 10% faster cpu and 40% faster gpu, they got a nice machine right when they wanted.
Hehheh... I was reading your post, thinking "where's he going with this", and then I hit the tagline
Is there any chance it will actually be announced in march ? I'm in huge need of a new laptop, i have to finish my masters this july and a new hardware is a must for me. Right now i have a good option of xps 15 with gtx965m on board and i really dont know what to do cuz if they really release it in march then i will for sure regret my choice but still i cant wait till june
Just a tad overpriced considering most authorized resellers are over discounts from $100-$300. As someone who is playing the mbp waiting game it's not about performance now but 3-4 years down the line. And I mostly likely would notice a 40% Gpu bump
I was just reading the September Skylake announcements and the chipset availability for the MB and 13" MBP. Would be GREAT if they did announce new rMBP in March!
There will be a Skylake rMBP. The only question is when? Will it be March, April, May or June?
And the other question is, what degree of redesign will there be? Simple spec bump? Minor redesign primarily involving new ports and perhaps new colours? Full redesign, likely borrowing design elements from the MacBook?
Please, please, whatever happens, let it not involve copying over the MacBook keyboard.
We can expect to see the same exterior design as the MacBook.
That includes:
- the MB bezels
- color options, Apple seems to incorporate color options across their entire product lines. The MB received multiple color options, so we can expect it with the new rMBP's
- Thunderbolt3/USB-C ports. This requires new internal components, so we can expect a (slightly) different internal design
- the same keyboard mechanism that is found in the latest magic keyboard + 1led keyboard lighting found in the MB
- the sleek shiny apple logo found on the back of the MB's, instead of the glowing logo.
- maybe a slightly higher ppi? Don't start a war again about this....
- improved webcam
But I do think we will get a MagSafe port. Apple wanted to challenge the limit of thinness so they went ahead and used the single usb-c port for power and the regular usb-c jazzstuff
But since the rMBP's have plenty of space, it is definitely includable. I just don't see Apple killing off their own, briliant and life saving technology. Especially when we're talking about laptops that cost at least 1.5 up to 3 times as much as a MB.
That includes:
- the MB bezels
- color options, Apple seems to incorporate color options across their entire product lines. The MB received multiple color options, so we can expect it with the new rMBP's
- Thunderbolt3/USB-C ports. This requires new internal components, so we can expect a (slightly) different internal design
- the same keyboard mechanism that is found in the latest magic keyboard + 1led keyboard lighting found in the MB
- the sleek shiny apple logo found on the back of the MB's, instead of the glowing logo.
- maybe a slightly higher ppi? Don't start a war again about this....
- improved webcam
But I do think we will get a MagSafe port. Apple wanted to challenge the limit of thinness so they went ahead and used the single usb-c port for power and the regular usb-c jazzstuff
But since the rMBP's have plenty of space, it is definitely includable. I just don't see Apple killing off their own, briliant and life saving technology. Especially when we're talking about laptops that cost at least 1.5 up to 3 times as much as a MB.
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