Intel has only announced mobile xeons with GT2. The only cpu's announced with anything greater than GT2 are low power 2 cores CPU's (U-line).
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Intel has only announced mobile xeons with GT2. The only cpu's announced with anything greater than GT2 are low power 2 cores CPU's (U-line).
Apart from availability it was speculated that the tray price of the processor would push the retail price of a rMBP way above the current models thus limiting it's potential sales volume.
Don't the P50/P70 come with either the E3-1505M or the E3-1535M ? Neither has suitable internal GPU for heavy use so rely on NVIDIA Quadro GPUs to beef up graphics performance.
Not seen a full breakdown of P50/P70 prices with specs but guessing that the $1599/$1999 starting prices will escalate rapidly once they are configured with a few options.
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Additionally, those CPUs are no mobile Xeons, they are instead either normal or low power desktop workstation ones. Thus, they won't be power optimized, and will drain a lot of battery. Lenovo hasn't published any battery runtimes yet, but looking at the power supply ratings reveals a minimum of 170 watts — versus 85 watts for the MBP 15''. So I guess those won't be suitable for Apple.
Additionally, those CPUs are no mobile Xeons, they are instead either normal or low power desktop workstation ones. Thus, they won't be power optimized, and will drain a lot of battery. Lenovo hasn't published any battery runtimes yet, but looking at the power supply ratings reveals a minimum of 170 watts — versus 85 watts for the MBP 15''. So I guess those won't be suitable for Apple.
Both the E3-1535M and the E3-1535M have a TDP of 45W which can be dropped to 35W if the processor capability is capped.@t0mat0
Additionally, those CPUs are no mobile Xeons, they are instead either normal or low power desktop workstation ones. Thus, they won't be power optimized, and will drain a lot of battery. Lenovo hasn't published any battery runtimes yet, but looking at the power supply ratings reveals a minimum of 170 watts — versus 85 watts for the MBP 15''. So I guess those won't be suitable for Apple.
I totally agree that a 100W+ processor in a laptop would burn through a battery in a matter of hours so would be unsuitable in this context.
Seeing as the current build is a "mid" variation, there's no real reason to update this fall. But as to why they didn't put the Broadwell CPU in at the last iteration could be so that they can silent update this fall and stimulate sales for black friday and xmas gifts. Not very likely however.
More likely that Apple had a hard deadline for delivery of suitable Broadwell processors and Intel failed to meet it.
The way I have understood it that no Skylake chips with Iris Pro(GT4e & eDRAM) have been released yet. Intel hasn't even released detailed info about Skylake Iris Pro yet. And Apple won't ship a MBP without Iris Pro.
Just because Lenovo announces some models doesn't mean that they will be for sale in the immediate future.
The processors that Lenovo will be using were released in Q3. No reason Lenovo can't launch in next few months.
I don't think this makes sense. The release date didn't coincide with anything in particular like WWDC that would constitute a hard deadline.
I think it's a case of Apple just not seeing enough marketability in the Broadwell refresh and instead preferring to take higher margins by using older cheaper parts. Sound familiar?
Very disappointing from a customer perspective since Broadwell has a die shrink that could lead to cooler running and better battery life.
But Apple is Apple and the dollar is king. They can probably save $50-100 per unit by keeping the old version.
Someone could check on Intel Ark, though I can't be bothered.
Personally, I'd be happy if they went with a 35 W processor and gave an extra 10 W to a more powerful discreet graphics processor. The rMBP has a lopsided ratio of CPU to graphics power.
Be more positive. My interpretation is as follows: Apple is currently developing a completely redesigned MacBook Pro, to accommodate Skylake, USB C, Thunderbolt 3 and maybe new displays. R&D costs a lot of money, and they want to focus on the new design. But, because Skylake is not around the corner, they have to ship some upgrade, which should not cost much in R&D.
But what I can't see is why they upgraded the dGPU at that time, which makes new logic board design necessary. I was also surprised by the new battery, as that 5wh doesn't seem to justify R&D costs.
And with a "for the rest of your natural life and beyond, battery life"
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The hard deadline would have been an internal one.
It makes sense if Apple wanted to get the Force Touch and SSD upgrades out there.
Sadly they are dependent on Intel.I'm still holding out that Apple will surprise us with a refresh in October or November.
Maybe they are keeping secret that Skylake will be ready this year! Hehe!!!
Unlikely I know.
Not a big enough market for Apple - adds cost with little perceivable benefit to 95% of users. But you never know for sure with Apple.
The possible rationale being discussed at that time was that Intel was unable to provide sufficient appropriate Broadwell HQ class chips in time for back to school season. Back to school shopping season is Apple's second biggest sales window after the holiday season. Given the apparent lack of appropriate Skylake HQ chips in 2015, this remains the most likely explanation. Apple was not hesitant to use Broadwell chips in MBAs or 13" rMBPs, so I doubt marketability of a Broadwell refresh has anything to do with this. Apple loves to market benefits such as longer battery life.
That being said, I agree with you, using older cheaper parts and taking higher margins sadly sounds very familiar.
Tim Cook's background is in logistics and supply chain optimisation. Since he took over there has been far more innovation on the cost cutting front than there has on their products.
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