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Meanwhile, on the MBA page:

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Windows 10 on Bootcamp...

What we need is a minimaly decent gpu to run the occasional game. I just need it to run League, CS and Overwatch and good settings and 60+ fps...

If I cared zero for gaming (which I don't) i'd have alreaddy bought the current 15''. The CPU, screen and battery are more than OK for me.

TBH, this is my last year at Uni so won't have much time for gaming anyway after. My plan is to get a maxed out 15" rMBP as a desktop replacement, as I can't deal with Hackintoshing anymore, I won't have time once I start working. I can't afford a Mac Pro, but a 15 maxed out rMBP, with 2 4k screens attached, alongside hopefully some sort of external GPU option will be fine for me.

For gaming I will probably invest in a PS4, as the majority of my friends are console gamers anyhow.
 
when new Mac will come out, whenever it'll be, do you think the 2015 MBPros will remain on sale until the end of the stocks with a price drop or not?
 
If there is no wide-gamut display, I will not be buying it. Although I don't give a rat's ass about thinness, I refuse to have a phone with a better display than a $3000 laptop; I expect the MacBookPro to catch up in this regard.

Ya. It's sad. A typical smartphone today has a better quality display than a typical laptop or desktop today
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Meanwhile, on the MBA page:

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This is also sad
 
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I want to take this moment to (1) help us get to 1000 pages and (2) thank all the computer literate people on this thread. When I first started lurking I knew NOTHING about computers. I didn't know that the 15 inch came with 4 cores as opposed to 2 for the 13. I didn't know what an i/d GPU was. I even first thought "Geekbench" was the name Apple gave to their Genius Bar.

But thanks to all the rants and arguments I've seen here I have learned SO much. I can now go and talk to anyone about computers and at least sound moderately well-informed. I can go shopping around for computers and choose one based on their actual performance rather than the brand and price tag. You guys have really taught me a lot. The release of the new macs will be a bit bittersweet--I'll have a newfound appreciation for the update, but I'll also miss all of...this *gestures vaguely*
 
On my Big Mac the fans go off A BIT when I am using Sims 4 with maxed out settings. On the rMBP I can't run it with lowest detail and all pretty stuff disabled. There's something very disappointing about the fact my €1300 Hackintosh performs better than most Macs on the market – it has pretty much the same Geekbench results as a Mac Pro, but I know there is a difference between a regular i7 and Xeons. (Not that I know what the difference is exactly...)

I've planned a hack build for my husband. It will cost about €1800 and put every actual Mac to shame. I'm quietly hoping that the iMac refresh will not include 5400rpm drivers or mobile processors (or, Gods forbid, the rMB processors...) so we can get him that instead. I'm happy to pay up to €2200 or so for a GOOD iMac, but the config that sort of approaches my hack, with today's prices would cost me €3600+.

Yes, despite what I just wrote, I AM waiting for a Skylake MBP. In some sort of masochistic way, but I am.

I too love my Hackintosh. It's going strong from 2012! All I've replaced is the GPU due to sleep issues and AMD cards in El Capitan, and have added a native ethernet card as I can't be bothered dealing with ethernet problems.

That being said, my time Hackintoshing is coming to an end. I just want a Mac that works and doesn't break the bank. Heck if Apple released an old style quad core mac Mini, which allowed 2.5" SSDs and some sort of external GPU, I would be all over that.

Hackintoshing isn't getting easier. I'm sure you know of the pain we have to go through to just get simple things like iMessage working natively, alongside things like audio after sleep, sleep, full GPU power etc etc.

It's been fun though. I've learnt a lot and i'm still amazed as to how my almost 5 year old rig running el capitan, when it isn't meant to, is more stable than my Family's windows 7 and windows 10 Dell machines!



EDIT: Can the be poster who posts the first post on the 1000th page perhaps get a crowdfunded refreshed rMBP? *Laughs in Student*
 
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Just ran a diagnostic cause my iOS10 backups were slow as hell. There is a nice free tool but the result makes me even more sad

Code:
EtreCheck version: 3.0.4 (308)
Report generated 2016-09-20 18:07:22
Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime 5:02
Performance: Below Average

Problem: Computer is too slow

Hardware Information: ⓘ
    MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2010)
    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro7,1
    2,4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core
    16 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]
    Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 765

Pleeeeeease, bring it on!
 
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do the current gen rMBP support eGPU for Internal display??
or is it just for the external displays...?
 
There is ONE problem with my Big Hac. Gigabyte, who made the motherboard, did something wrong with the BIOS software and as a result if I put my Hac to sleep every night for a week it's going to crash due to a memory leak (I think) and make me lose all my data. Otherwise the experience is super-smooth (true, once you spend a week fixing everything, but after that week there are no more problems). Updating the OS consists of: downloading update from Apple, installing it, booting without NVidia GPU to a terrible built-in Intel GPU only to download NVidia drivers, restart. When one considers this has saved me more than 2 thousand euro, I'd say it's worth it.

I'd love to buy a new iMac but Apple tax in this case is so shameless I just can't justify the spending. My 2015 rMBP is totally worth the price I paid for it. It's the best laptop I have used in my life, period. I saw hackintoshable laptops but none of them look half as good (not to mention trackpads...) as the rMBP. My husband's iMac seems to be on its last legs, and I told him not to even look at Apple page, I'll build him a hackintosh. BUT – if the Mac refresh actually happens, and the computers get actually improved – especially in iMac case – we're ready to pay up to €2000 for a computer without a spinner drive and with 16 GB RAM. I won't say "upgradeable" because nothing Apple make is upgradeable nowadays and I know that. But hubby isn't exactly technical and I think doing that simple El Cap upgrade would be something he'd need professional help with (both to do the update and make sure he doesn't develop Hackintosh PTSD).

Coincidentally though, I am starting to think warmer about the thin rMB, even with its **** keyboard, because Amazon have very interesting prices on the 2016 model. I don't NEED it, but it's purdy. Make our rMBPs pretty, Jony. Like "OMG THAT IS SO PRETTY", not "wow, it's thinner now and lost all sockets except for USB-C – in rose gold". Make our rMBPs fast, whoever-is-in-charge. I have my new Hackintosh in basket – buying parts I checked will work together would cost me €1800 and beat ANY Mac that is actually produced at the moment. Make me give up that idea, Tim. At least I am 100% unlikely to buy a Dell, so that's a bit less work for you.
 
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If Sierra launches before we get to 1000 pages, then we lose.

And as punishment, Apple cancels the 2016 MBP, and shuts down development on all future models, and increases the price of the current models.
 
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when new Mac will come out, whenever it'll be, do you think the 2015 MBPros will remain on sale until the end of the stocks with a price drop or not?

I think the 2015 13" MBP will drop in price and take over the ancient non-retina MBP. 2015 15" will be discontinued.

However... depending on what they do with the MBA and what plans they have with the MB, they could make a clean sweep and no longer offer any legacy products.
 
I know we've seen some leaks in Sierra about the new MBP, but I wonder if anymore will arise? Maybe not in today's release, but in the first few point patches. I know some of the new macs have come with semi-custom build (the mac mini with fusion springs to mind and when the RMBP as well), so I guess this may suggest the majority of it is obfuscated from the user.

Stay strong everyone! We'll get there, page 1000 is inevitable, but I know it feels like getting Mac in hand isn't. My Late-2008 is too old for Sierra and I won't be upgrading the mini until I can have both machines on the same OS.
 
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