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They are inviting the media and people such as Serenity Caldwell, i don’t think they would do that if it was just a short event about updating a couple of services like iBooks. I think we are likely to see new cheaper iPads and maybe the rumoured cheaper MacBook Air or MacBook with Retina display, the Air is used a lot in
eduction by students and teachers.

Edit: the editor in chief of the Verge has also had an invite to the event.

I'm sure they invite all of these people to every event. Thats what the events are for - free PR.
 
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I'm sure they invite all of these people to every event. Thats what the events are for - free PR.

They do invite some people to most events but certain people only get invited to specific events, for example Scott Stein has got an invite and even he himself on Twitter said that he was surprised, Apple only usually invite him when they have new Mac's to announce.
 
Regarding the processors that Intel has announced will begin shipping in 2H 2018 that have hardware "fixes" for Meltdown and Spectre variant two, I wonder if any of the processors that will go in the refreshed MBPs might get the fix?

With all the microcode fixes finally available, I hope we will see detailed before/after performance benchmarks soon from reputable sites. These will be interesting to compare to the CPUs which include silicon fixes to compare their performance to the microcode fixes.
 
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Regarding the processors that Intel has announced will begin shipping in 2H 2018 that have hardware "fixes" for Meltdown and Spectre variant two, I wonder if any of the processors that will go in the refreshed MBPs might get the fix?

With all the microcode fixes finally available, I hope we will see detailed before/after performance benchmarks soon from reputable sites. These will be interesting to compare to the CPUs which include silicon fixes to compare their performance to the microcode fixes.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...spectre-and-meltdown-vulnerabilities.2110320/

They seem to suggest so? Though exactly what they mean by 8th gen is confusing, as some are already available. Do they mean only 8th gen chips not yet shipped?
 
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Excel is quite a popular program - uses function keys extensively.
On the other hand Excel also has excellent and very extensive Touch Bar support. Which I'd personally value over some fn-shortcuts that I could just remap to other button combinations.
 
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https://videocardz.com/75326/intels-six-core-i9-8950hk-i7-8850h-i7-8750h-cinebench-score-leaked

Superfast 6-core 45 W mobile chips. These mobile chips could be used in the 15" MacBook Pro.

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Note though that in this table only the i9 is at spec. It appears the i7s are using higher power, hence the higher performance. Still, the 45 W i9 is faster than the 91 Watt i7-7700K desktop chip.
 
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https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...spectre-and-meltdown-vulnerabilities.2110320/

They seem to suggest so? Though exactly what they mean by 8th gen is confusing, as some are already available. Do they mean only 8th gen chips not yet shipped?

Hopefully someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I think Intel's "8th gen" is actually composed of three different "lakes", kaby-refresh, cannon and coffee, which are a mixed bag of microarchitectures and process nodes. I think for mobile only kaby-refresh are actually released, but it's cannon/coffee that will get the spectre/meltdown fixes.
 
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I have no dog in the touch bar race, but it seems to me that since a touch interface can be mapped to whatever keys or functions one wants, it should offer only more functionality than the previous physical keys (theoretically—it’s up to developers to follow through). This is much like how mobile phones went from physical keys to touch screens. There were trade offs, and I think the same ones apply here—increased price and you have to look at the interface to use it. So if the increased price isn’t really the issue, the only other group of people I can see feeling shafted are those who frequently used function keys without looking. I’d be curious to know how large of a group that is. I’m guessing Apple did their research, knew how big that group was, and knowingly gave them the shaft.
 
So if the increased price isn’t really the issue, the only other group of people I can see feeling shafted are those who frequently used function keys without looking. I’d be curious to know how large of a group that is. I’m guessing Apple did their research, knew how big that group was, and knowingly gave them the shaft.
I think this is probably correct. It seems like most of the people who relied on the function keys and are touch typists are software developers. If apple wants to make a premium laptop that appeals to mainstream users then it might make sense to do so at the expense of alienating software developers, if it wasn't for the fact that they need developers to create apps for iOS.

I wonder if the same explanation applies to the failure rates of the keyboard. That seems less like a calculated strategy and more like a screw up to me, sinister planned-obsolescence theories notwithstanding.
 
I think this is probably correct. It seems like most of the people who relied on the function keys and are touch typists are software developers. If apple wants to make a premium laptop that appeals to mainstream users then it might make sense to do so at the expense of alienating software developers, if it wasn't for the fact that they need developers to create apps for iOS.

I wonder if the same explanation applies to the failure rates of the keyboard. That seems less like a calculated strategy and more like a screw up to me, sinister planned-obsolescence theories notwithstanding.
Another problem some people are reporting are the touch bar getting stuck, sometimes due to hung applications.

http://osxdaily.com/2017/01/11/manually-refresh-touch-bar-mac/
 
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So - the art work for this event seems to imply hand writing/drawing.

My guess/prediction -> Apple pencil 2 will work with the 2018 macbook huge track pads. This will replace the touchbar.
 
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So - the art work for this event seems to imply hand writing/drawing.

My guess/prediction -> Apple pencil 2 will work with the 2018 macbook huge track pads. This will replace the touchbar.
How did you come to such a conclusion?How does the ability to draw on a trackpad replace shortcut keys on a touchbar? How?
 
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On the other hand Excel also has excellent and very extensive Touch Bar support. Which I'd personally value over some fn-shortcuts that I could just remap to other button combinations.

But those who have used Excel for many years are used to the standard F keys and expect them to be in the "right" place. As I've said I've no problem with the touch bar as an additional interface, but taking away the physical F keys is too high a price.
 
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The reason I dislike the touchbar is that to me it seems distracting and unnecessarily complex. I haven't used a TB MacBook for extended periods of time though.

Ideally, if one doesn’t want the added functions, one should be able to set the touch bar permanently as function keys, avoiding any unwanted change and distraction. I don’t know if this is the case though. With Apple, it wouldn’t surprise me if they give the user no choice.

So - the art work for this event seems to imply hand writing/drawing.

My guess/prediction -> Apple pencil 2 will work with the 2018 macbook huge track pads. This will replace the touchbar.

Interesting theory. I wonder if they might even turn the trackpad into a little extra display for drawing on. Might be useful for some. Not so much for me. Too small and horizontal. I’m wishing for the day Apple makes a pencil-compatible main screen on a convertible mbp (I don’t want touch input though). But I know it’s never going to happen.
 
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Ideally, if one doesn’t want the added functions, one should be able to set the touch bar permanently as function keys, avoiding any unwanted change and distraction. I don’t know if this is the case though. With Apple, it wouldn’t surprise me if they give the user no choice.



Interesting theory. I wonder if they might even turn the trackpad into a little extra display for drawing on. Might be useful for some. Not so much for me. Too small and horizontal. I’m wishing for the day Apple makes a pencil-compatible main screen on a convertible mbp (I don’t want touch input though). But I know it’s never going to happen.


You can do that. Yes. You can actually customize it very well. And have 2 separate modes. One activated by the fn key. and another permanent one.
 
This is fine for people who look at the keyboard when they type, but I can't see it working when you touch-type.
Which might easily change if Apple decides to add haptic feedback to the Touch Bar, which I‘d suspect they‘ll do eventually, considering they already have one of their excellent Taptic Engines below the trackpad. All it takes would be to add one below the Touch Bar; maybe they could even use the current one below the trackpad for that purpose, considering there are some third-party tweaks who do just that. It seems more like an aspect of the Touch Bar that can be improved, not something that warrants removing it completely.
 
Which might easily change if Apple decides to add haptic feedback to the Touch Bar, which I‘d suspect they‘ll do eventually, considering they already have one of their excellent Taptic Engines below the trackpad. All it takes would be to add one below the Touch Bar; maybe they could even use the current one below the trackpad for that purpose, considering there are some third-party tweaks who do just that. It seems more like an aspect of the Touch Bar that can be improved, not something that warrants removing it completely.
I don't know if haptic feedback solves that issue, actually. It's not just about knowing you actuated the key but about making sure you are pressing the correct key in the first place
 
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Regarding the processors that Intel has announced will begin shipping in 2H 2018 that have hardware "fixes" for Meltdown and Spectre variant two, I wonder if any of the processors that will go in the refreshed MBPs might get the fix?

With all the microcode fixes finally available, I hope we will see detailed before/after performance benchmarks soon from reputable sites. These will be interesting to compare to the CPUs which include silicon fixes to compare their performance to the microcode fixes.
Anandtech has said they’ll have before and after benchmarks on the microcode updates.
 
Hey Guys, my 2012 13"Macbook is starting to show its age, and I don't know how I've survived not upgrading for the retina display alone.

I'm currently up in the air with regards to getting the ntb Macbook pro or tb macbook pro, especially with the new quad-core processors that are meant to come out for the 13 tb macbook. Does anyone have any details/rumors to which processors will be used in the ntb macbook?
 
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