You can't possibly believe that the current Macbook will last until after the WWDC. There have been suitable CPUs for an upgrades for months now.
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Waiting for the early 2016 Macbook
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No source needed. It is a 100% true statement.
Note that he didn't say which WWDC... Maybe this year's, maybe next year's, or perhaps the year after?
No source needed. It is a 100% true statement.
Note that he didn't say which WWDC... Maybe this year's, maybe next year's, or perhaps the year after?
Thanks for your comment!! I just changed my previous post to WWDC 2016 keynote. No sources (I'm not a Mark Gurkman), but I've followed Apple since I bought my first Mac (2006)...If 2nd generation Macbook is not announced before or in that keynote, I'll leave this forum.
My, funny, isn't it? There seems to be thousands of people waiting for Apple to announce the new macbook. We wait a whole week for Friday, we wait a whole year forSummer, a whole life for happiness, and forever for the next macbook
In January 2011 I bought a 21.5" core i3 iMac. The next version, released at WWDC in June 2011, was 40% faster, had more graphic ram, thunderbolt. Quite significant improvements. Maybe I should have waited? I've been enjoying that computer for more than 5 years now. Perhaps the tiny processor in the 2015 rMB outperforms it.
Now, I don't say "don't wait". No, I say "wait", but wait for the hardware that will be released at WWDC. It's only 3 months from now. That's when a bigger macbook (or a rebranded Air with retina) might be released. Whatever. Like I said in another thread, I am gonna receive a MBP from the company I work for, so I will try not to post in the macbook forums anymore, at least until some rumors for a significant upgrade appear.
In January 2011 I bought a 21.5" core i3 iMac. The next version, released at WWDC in June 2011, was 40% faster, had more graphic ram, thunderbolt. Quite significant improvements. Maybe I should have waited? I've been enjoying that computer for more than 5 years now. Perhaps the tiny processor in the 2015 rMB outperforms it.
Now, I don't say "don't wait". No, I say "wait", but wait for the hardware that will be released at WWDC. It's only 3 months from now. That's when a bigger macbook (or a rebranded Air with retina) might be released. Whatever. Like I said in another thread, I am gonna receive a MBP from the company I work for, so I will try not to post in the macbook forums anymore, at least until some rumors for a significant upgrade appear.
Lot of passion as ever Personally I think that Apple will just do a "silent" update to the rMB for 2016, as it`s likely to be only a bump on the CPU/GPU, incorporating TB3 with Skylake require Intel`s Alpine Ridge controller, and for that Apple needs to make space on the MLB.
Given the MacBook Pro is ageing and in need of update, likely to be one of the stars at WWDC, it rather makes strategic sense for Apple to hold back something for 2017, Kaby Lake will have TB3 as a conponent of the SOC, this is where a I now see Apple introducing TB3 to the rMB.
Am I waiting for the 2016 rMB? No as I have a 2015 1.2, and unless the update is significant it makes no sense to upgrade. Nor is the update likely to be significant as Apple take evolutionary steps in development for product updates. When Apple wants to be revolutionary they launch a new class of device.
As ever just opinion, as ever Apple will do what Apple want`s, when & where...
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Personally I think that Apple will just do a "silent" update to the rMB for 2016, as it`s likely to be only a bump on the CPU/GPU, incorporating TB3 with Skylake require Intel`s Alpine Ridge controller, and for that Apple needs to make space on the MLB.Given the MacBook Pro is ageing and in need of update, likely to be one of the stars at WWDC, it rather makes strategic sense for Apple to hold back something for 2017, Kaby Lake will have TB3 as a conponent of the SOC, this is where a I now see Apple introducing TB3 to the rMB.
Am I waiting for the 2016 rMB? No as I have a 2015 1.2, and unless the update is significant it makes no sense to upgrade. Nor is the update likely to be significant as Apple take evolutionary steps in development for product updates. When Apple wants to be revolutionary they launch a new class of device.
As ever just opinion, as ever Apple will do what Apple want`s, when & where...
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Come on BJ, you're only reason for posting in this area of the forum is to be a debbie-downer. In truth, you have no idea if an update is coming but you sure like to sound like you have the inside scoop.
Historically, Apple does update on a regular basis so an update is going to happen. Will it be 2016. There are rumors say YES, and then there's you saying NO.
My 2 cents to everyone else: If you can get one for $800 to $900ish, buy it as a new one will not be had for anything less than MSRP. Will there be enough in a new model to justify the wait or almost double the price...likely no as the fan-less design really does limit the implementation possibilities. Likely, slightly faster CPU. Maybe an extra USB-c. Improved keyboard action.
However, should they add cellular, or bring the graphics to the level of the iPadProMini...well that's worth waiting for.
Whilst the next update could be minor, I'm waiting it out. If you have no imminent need to purchase the retina MacBook I'd also recommend waiting, there will be some form of update before Christmas.
Yes the differences could be minor, but small upgrades like giving a HD camera, Skylake performance boosts, thunderbolt 3, a true tone/P3 display etc. can go a long way in improving an already enjoyable laptop. As great as it currently is, we know how good Apple are at improving designs with their 2nd/3rd iterations of products.
Yes the differences could be minor, but small upgrades like giving a HD camera, Skylake performance boosts, thunderbolt 3, a true tone/P3 display etc. can go a long way in improving an already enjoyable laptop. As great as it currently is, we know how good Apple are at improving designs with their 2nd/3rd iterations of products.
The really interesting question is what processor it will have. Skylake has been out and available for mobile platforms for quite a while. If the MacBook refresh is Skylake it will be a profound disappointment as it means Apple is now a trailing-edge technology company. But Kaby Lake mobile parts have been delayed until the third quarter of 2016. In Apple-world, 3Q 2016 announcements happen at WWDC with general availability in August. That's the latest anyone can wait to get their new collegians and and high schoolers a back-to-school laptop. It will be a tight squeeze to get Kaby Lake into that MacBook then.
However, Kaby Lake will fulfill a lot of the promise of the technology advancements in the Retina MacBook. Longer battery life, 100% faster graphics, hardware decoding of HEVC, 4K at 60Hz (or beyond), USB 3.1 Gen 2, and Thunderbolt 3 all come with Kaby Lake. The integrated graphics will drive a 5K monitor at 60Hz, or two 5K monitors at 30Hz. It's April now. I could certainly hang on until August for all that. Might Apple even offer me a BTO option for 16GB RAM? Oh golly.
Thunderbolt 3 ain't a "small upgrade". It's the whole game. That other stuff is just icing on the cake but TB3 is the cake.
However, Kaby Lake will fulfill a lot of the promise of the technology advancements in the Retina MacBook. Longer battery life, 100% faster graphics, hardware decoding of HEVC, 4K at 60Hz (or beyond), USB 3.1 Gen 2, and Thunderbolt 3 all come with Kaby Lake. The integrated graphics will drive a 5K monitor at 60Hz, or two 5K monitors at 30Hz. It's April now. I could certainly hang on until August for all that. Might Apple even offer me a BTO option for 16GB RAM? Oh golly.
Thunderbolt 3 ain't a "small upgrade". It's the whole game. That other stuff is just icing on the cake but TB3 is the cake.
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Just buy the base model and sell it at a slight loss when the 2016 model comes out, they will look identical anyway. Apple isn't going to update the form factor twice in 2 years.
Sorry; Kaby Lake isn't going in an Apple product that early; that is wishful thinking, especially considering the Skylake rollout. I know Apple has gotten early access to Intel chips in the past, but that was a while ago. And if anything, Apple has lagged the industry in updating their computers since iPhone/iPad is their focus.
Very small since they'd have to make room for another chip.
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Possible alternate reason: they just don't see a need to be at the cutting edge CPU-wise. It's pretty clear that Apple doesn't chase after the small portion of the market that's focused on specs, they're targeting the wider market that is more concerned with what can be done with the systems.
I'd wager that if you walked into any Apple Store you'd be hard pressed to find someone (other than a blue shirt) who could tell you the difference between i5 and i7 let alone differentiate Broadwell from Skylake from Kaby lake.
Well, nerts. You're right: Thunderbolt 3 requires an extra chip on Skylake and Kaby Lake.
I belive that Kaby Lake has integrated TB3 directly on the SOC, Skylake I know requires Intel`s additional Alpine Ridge controller. No doubt Apple will bring T3 to the MacBook, equally once they can do it cost effectively.
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I would expect to see TB3 on the Pros this year; MacBook(s) next year with Kaby.
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Very true, and Apple has conquered all the I/O bottlenecks from the processor via SSD, Thunderbolt, and so on. While we all yearn for more powerful processors, the reality is that any processor from the last few years is very capable for even top end work (see Mac Pro). Heck, my home iMac is a 2010 model with an SSD, and I don't feel any need to upgrade it yet. The only thing that will make me buy at some point is that I can't upgrade it to the latest version of OS X, or because I want a Retina screen.
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Same, that`s what I am thinking is now most likely, also gives Apple something meaningful to reveal for the portable Mac lineup in 2017. They will also be very cost conscious with the MacBook, as I am sure that Apple wants to "jettison" the Air was soon as is practicable, equally Apple needs to maintain the it`s generous margins.
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I going by a macbook this year. I'm waiting because I want to see if they update the current MacBook line with a 13". That's my hope. I like the current MB, just hope to have it in a 13" or perhaps 15".
That would be correct; I run the display at 1440x900, it's the "Scaled, More Space" option under display properties. I find it works well for me.
Can you even run the rMB display at the native 3840x2160? I doubt my eyes would handle that very well without covering the screen with nose-prints.
I dont know anyone that uses "Best for Retina" actually. Everyone I know bumps all macbooks up to max.
Agreed. Come to think of it, given that processor power is not that much of a headline anymore, I would think Apple will be making a really big deal out of USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 as they role it out on all their products. It's very reassuring to see not just USB-C, but also TB3, on Windows machines that have been release over the last few months.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...bolt-is-finally-gaining-some-traction-in-pcs/