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Wal-Mart to Sell iPhone Starting Sunday
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I am not even close to being rich but I never shop at walmart and make sure to boycott it.
chinamart = walmart = unfair labour rights = evil monopoly = cost cities lots $$ = affect manufacturers negatively
chinamart = walmart = unfair labour rights = evil monopoly = cost cities lots $$ = affect manufacturers negatively
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They have to justify spending $2+ on the same box of ceral somehow.
I have noticed the opposite at the Super Walmart. The food there is always has later exp on box goods, dairy, and other consumable than the pricechopper and stop and shop.
WhenI can save 20%-40% on the same items shopping walmart, guess what I will be ther.
obviously you haven't been to other stores looking at the Made in labels.
There isn't much out there that says Made in the USA.
Unfair evil monoply? I guess stores like Target, Fred Meier and others don't operate in the USA?
Yeah Walmart should take a page or two from the auto industry or the banks.
Repost from another Wal-Mart selling iPhone thread:
The elitist attitude exhibited from many posters here is truly sad. So much misinformation is spread here about Wal-Mart it borders on the ridiculous. I realize the company I work for isn't perfect. There are many great things about Wal-Mart for which I am quite proud. My father works for Wal-Mart. He's been with the company 35 years. He has no college education and started out as a stocker. He has now been a store manager for more than twenty years and makes 200k plus a year. This is with no college education. There are thousands of examples of this within the company.
I have been an Assistant Manager for almost 5 years and will make 55k this year in Oklahoma where the cost of living is very low, in other areas they give adjustments in pay based on cost of living. Even if I were to stay in my current position I would continue to receive raises for many more years before I reached the top end of the pay scale. Good pay at Wal-Mart is attainable. Yes, many of our positions are unskilled labor and pay is on the lower end, this is true for most every unskilled position people get hired for. All you super cool people who love Target should know that our total pay and benefits package has been rated above theirs by companies that rate retailer pay and benefits.
However, you can work a regular stocking position and make a good living by staying with the company and getting raises. We have regular stockers at my store making 13-17 dollars an hour. Many of these people have been with the company 6-8 years. All Wal-Marts offer bonuses based on store performance. Last year at my store it was around $1700 for all associates that averaged 35 hours a week or more. Hell even part time associates working 20 hours a week received something around $1400.
My point is that you shouldn't just drink all the anti-Wal-Mart Kool Aid you read out there. I know I understand the shortcomings of my company. I work in a very nice area, and Wal-Marts in Oklahoma and surrounding states tend to be nice, clean stores. I know there are Wal-Marts in depressed areas or areas that are new to Wal-Mart that are likely to be pretty terrible and I wouldn't fault people for not shopping there. However, one cannot judge the entire company on one bad experience. There is much good that Wal-Mart brings. If they weren't so damn good at what they do then why are we so popular? Why do so many people choose to work there if all the company does is crap on their workers? There are hundreds of places to work and shop people.
Sorry to get a little off topic. As for the iPhone coming to Wal-Mart it is a fantastic decision by Apple. They will reach a market that is far, far greater than they can through AT&T, Best Buy and Apple stores combined. This will help them sell a lot more phones and make more money, which is kind of the point of having a business don't you think? Products like Macbooks and iMacs probably should not be sold in Wal-Mart stores. Our business model doesn't lend itself to a more involved and hands on customer experience. However, the iPhone is a phone at heart and Wal-Mart already has in store cell phone kiosks built into the electronics department of most stores. Also, through our associate discount we would also receive 10% off of the price of the phone itself. Personally I'm excited as when the next revision of the iPhone is released (iPhone 2G 16GB owner) I can buy it from Wal-Mart and save a little bit of cash.
The elitist attitude exhibited from many posters here is truly sad. So much misinformation is spread here about Wal-Mart it borders on the ridiculous. I realize the company I work for isn't perfect. There are many great things about Wal-Mart for which I am quite proud. My father works for Wal-Mart. He's been with the company 35 years. He has no college education and started out as a stocker. He has now been a store manager for more than twenty years and makes 200k plus a year. This is with no college education. There are thousands of examples of this within the company.
I have been an Assistant Manager for almost 5 years and will make 55k this year in Oklahoma where the cost of living is very low, in other areas they give adjustments in pay based on cost of living. Even if I were to stay in my current position I would continue to receive raises for many more years before I reached the top end of the pay scale. Good pay at Wal-Mart is attainable. Yes, many of our positions are unskilled labor and pay is on the lower end, this is true for most every unskilled position people get hired for. All you super cool people who love Target should know that our total pay and benefits package has been rated above theirs by companies that rate retailer pay and benefits.
However, you can work a regular stocking position and make a good living by staying with the company and getting raises. We have regular stockers at my store making 13-17 dollars an hour. Many of these people have been with the company 6-8 years. All Wal-Marts offer bonuses based on store performance. Last year at my store it was around $1700 for all associates that averaged 35 hours a week or more. Hell even part time associates working 20 hours a week received something around $1400.
My point is that you shouldn't just drink all the anti-Wal-Mart Kool Aid you read out there. I know I understand the shortcomings of my company. I work in a very nice area, and Wal-Marts in Oklahoma and surrounding states tend to be nice, clean stores. I know there are Wal-Marts in depressed areas or areas that are new to Wal-Mart that are likely to be pretty terrible and I wouldn't fault people for not shopping there. However, one cannot judge the entire company on one bad experience. There is much good that Wal-Mart brings. If they weren't so damn good at what they do then why are we so popular? Why do so many people choose to work there if all the company does is crap on their workers? There are hundreds of places to work and shop people.
Sorry to get a little off topic. As for the iPhone coming to Wal-Mart it is a fantastic decision by Apple. They will reach a market that is far, far greater than they can through AT&T, Best Buy and Apple stores combined. This will help them sell a lot more phones and make more money, which is kind of the point of having a business don't you think? Products like Macbooks and iMacs probably should not be sold in Wal-Mart stores. Our business model doesn't lend itself to a more involved and hands on customer experience. However, the iPhone is a phone at heart and Wal-Mart already has in store cell phone kiosks built into the electronics department of most stores. Also, through our associate discount we would also receive 10% off of the price of the phone itself. Personally I'm excited as when the next revision of the iPhone is released (iPhone 2G 16GB owner) I can buy it from Wal-Mart and save a little bit of cash.
The "slave labor" comment doesn't necessarily apply to U.S. workers. Where do you think all of that crap they sell comes from? Elves?
The elitist attitude exhibited from many posters here is truly sad. So much misinformation is spread here about Wal-Mart it borders on the ridiculous. I realize the company I work for isn't perfect. There are many great things about Wal-Mart for which I am quite proud. My father works for Wal-Mart. He's been with the company 35 years. He has no college education and started out as a stocker. He has now been a store manager for more than twenty years and makes 200k plus a year. This is with no college education. There are thousands of examples of this within the company.
I have been an Assistant Manager for almost 5 years and will make 55k this year in Oklahoma where the cost of living is very low, in other areas they give adjustments in pay based on cost of living. Even if I were to stay in my current position I would continue to receive raises for many more years before I reached the top end of the pay scale. Good pay at Wal-Mart is attainable. Yes, many of our positions are unskilled labor and pay is on the lower end, this is true for most every unskilled position people get hired for. All you super cool people who love Target should know that our total pay and benefits package has been rated above theirs by companies that rate retailer pay and benefits.
However, you can work a regular stocking position and make a good living by staying with the company and getting raises. We have regular stockers at my store making 13-17 dollars an hour. Many of these people have been with the company 6-8 years. All Wal-Marts offer bonuses based on store performance. Last year at my store it was around $1700 for all associates that averaged 35 hours a week or more. Hell even part time associates working 20 hours a week received something around $1400.
My point is that you shouldn't just drink all the anti-Wal-Mart Kool Aid you read out there. I know I understand the shortcomings of my company. I work in a very nice area, and Wal-Marts in Oklahoma and surrounding states tend to be nice, clean stores. I know there are Wal-Marts in depressed areas or areas that are new to Wal-Mart that are likely to be pretty terrible and I wouldn't fault people for not shopping there. However, one cannot judge the entire company on one bad experience. There is much good that Wal-Mart brings. If they weren't so damn good at what they do then why are we so popular? Why do so many people choose to work there if all the company does is crap on their workers? There are hundreds of places to work and shop people.
Just because you and your Daddy work there makes Wal-Mart's labor violations disappear?
Enjoy your Walmart! Gotta save that $2!I actually like Wal-Mart. It's by far the cheapest place to purchase groceries (particularly boxed and canned goods) here. I don't buy produce or meat there (prefer my local guys), but for everything else it's great.
I suppose you could spend the extra 30 percent at other stores like Kroger, but why pay more for the same products?
And the "slave labor" comment is out of line. The people that work at Wal-Mart choose to work there. I worked there for about a year in high school, and they paid quite a bit above what others were offering for the same type of employment. Not to mention, I received regular raises (every 60-90 days) and a yearly $2000+ profit-sharing "bonus."
That's not bad for a 16 year-old. I suspect that the majority of people that look down at discounters like Wal-Mart either have too much money or are just jumping on the "I hate" bandwagon. Everyone hates a winner (just look at the sheer amount of Microsoft bashing on this Web site).
Walmart Employees Speakout
Read that page and it is laughable.
I make a very decent coin. I went from an engineer at Intel to a tech at another company. It took me a while but if the engineer wants me to move something from there to here and in another hour move it back I say absolutely. I get paid to do a job and if my boss has me do stupid crap all day well so be it.
don't get sick at walmart, you may want to read your states labor laws, I was SHOCKED at the Massachusetts labor laws.
Pregnant women, that is a whole other legal mess. Won't touch that subject with a wireless mouse.
again, this one is also funded by the Wal-Mart Watch.
I'm somewhat surprised... most WM union organizers don't make their campaigning quite as obvious.
oh for sure. With products like this, the advantage is buying them at a store owned by the manufacturer. If there was an apple store in Calgary when I bought my iphone, I would have gone there.
As it was, I bought it at a Rogers Video 10 minute walk from my house on the 3rd day they were out. They had stock, and there were no activation delays.
Good find! Interesting to see some actual numbers on this. Somewhat confirms my thoughts. Although I would have thought Med Income would be lower and that % moved to Hi. Income. More of an hourglass. but that's fine.
You are correct, we have absolutely none. Each store receives commissions from each respective carrier for each new contract, but they go to Sam Walton's kids, not us.
The elitist attitude exhibited from many posters here is truly sad. So much misinformation is spread here about Wal-Mart it borders on the ridiculous. I realize the company I work for isn't perfect. There are many great things about Wal-Mart for which I am quite proud. My father works for Wal-Mart. He's been with the company 35 years. He has no college education and started out as a stocker. He has now been a store manager for more than twenty years and makes 200k plus a year. This is with no college education. There are thousands of examples of this within the company.
I have been an Assistant Manager for almost 5 years and will make 55k this year in Oklahoma where the cost of living is very low, in other areas they give adjustments in pay based on cost of living. Even if I were to stay in my current position I would continue to receive raises for many more years before I reached the top end of the pay scale. Good pay at Wal-Mart is attainable. Yes, many of our positions are unskilled labor and pay is on the lower end, this is true for most every unskilled position people get hired for. All you super cool people who love Target should know that our total pay and benefits package has been rated above theirs by companies that rate retailer pay and benefits.
However, you can work a regular stocking position and make a good living by staying with the company and getting raises. We have regular stockers at my store making 13-17 dollars an hour. Many of these people have been with the company 6-8 years. All Wal-Marts offer bonuses based on store performance. Last year at my store it was around $1700 for all associates that averaged 35 hours a week or more. Hell even part time associates working 20 hours a week received something around $1400.
My point is that you shouldn't just drink all the anti-Wal-Mart Kool Aid you read out there. I know I understand the shortcomings of my company. I work in a very nice area, and Wal-Marts in Oklahoma and surrounding states tend to be nice, clean stores. I know there are Wal-Marts in depressed areas or areas that are new to Wal-Mart that are likely to be pretty terrible and I wouldn't fault people for not shopping there. However, one cannot judge the entire company on one bad experience. There is much good that Wal-Mart brings. If they weren't so damn good at what they do then why are we so popular? Why do so many people choose to work there if all the company does is crap on their workers? There are hundreds of places to work and shop people.
Hear hear. And so often, we forget about the people who choose to work at Wal-Mart because they FEEL LIKE IT.
At my store, I work with at least a dozen women whose husbands make $300,000+ per year, and quite obviously don't NEED a job at all. To some people, a part time job in retail is a good way to kill some time that you would otherwise spend at home watching either TV or the maid while she scrubs down your master bathroom. And then there are the sixty-something women who could have easily retired already but would rather be doing something constructive around people. (And just as a side note, the people who are working for sh*ts and grins are ALWAYS the best workers and the most fun to be around. It's quite a paradox.) 
Way to go, Macrumors community, to generalize like the rest of you guys:
The average MacRumors goer is:
*Ignorant
*Racist (I saw a half dozen illegal immigrant comments, mexican comments, and spanish comments)
*See ignorant for my second accusation, bunching mexicans in with the rest of spanish people and insinuating they are all illegal immigrants is racist.
*Elitist
You guys disgust me. Now I see why people keep saying the worst thing about owning Apple hardware is you get generalized as a Mac user *shudder*
Anyway? Who cares? Retail is retail, whether it be Apple, Best Buy, or whatever else (Target?) - Target is just as bad as Walmart, perhaps even worse. Last I heard, Walmart doesn't track their customers in the stores (it kinda shows, though) - not nearly as hard as Target or Apple does.
Ironic that Apple uses the same system Target does and an Apple store is even more irritating than Target. Why do I say that? Targets are a bit too hot, but the lines are short - they usually don't have at least one of the things I'm looking for (they always run out of toilet paper >_<), but the rest is okay.
Apple, while they have ample stock, they do a terrible job managing the genius bar and could ALMOST ALWAYS use twice the square footage, Apple stores are crowded, stuffy, and make me dizzy from all of the people in that cramped little space.
The average MacRumors goer is:
*Ignorant
*Racist (I saw a half dozen illegal immigrant comments, mexican comments, and spanish comments)
*See ignorant for my second accusation, bunching mexicans in with the rest of spanish people and insinuating they are all illegal immigrants is racist.
*Elitist
You guys disgust me. Now I see why people keep saying the worst thing about owning Apple hardware is you get generalized as a Mac user *shudder*
Anyway? Who cares? Retail is retail, whether it be Apple, Best Buy, or whatever else (Target?) - Target is just as bad as Walmart, perhaps even worse. Last I heard, Walmart doesn't track their customers in the stores (it kinda shows, though) - not nearly as hard as Target or Apple does.
Ironic that Apple uses the same system Target does and an Apple store is even more irritating than Target. Why do I say that? Targets are a bit too hot, but the lines are short - they usually don't have at least one of the things I'm looking for (they always run out of toilet paper >_<), but the rest is okay.
Apple, while they have ample stock, they do a terrible job managing the genius bar and could ALMOST ALWAYS use twice the square footage, Apple stores are crowded, stuffy, and make me dizzy from all of the people in that cramped little space.
Wal-Mart sold al its shops in Germany and South Korea at the same time, last year.
In Germany, Wal-Mart couldn't made a profit with it's stores. The big discounters like Aldi, Netto, Lidl etc. with their smaller stores are far mor popular. German customers are very "price conscious" when it comes to groceries. And there is a fierce competition.
It's ironic to see all the anger about Wal-Mart making the iPhone less-than-chic while clamoring for the iFart app. Hellloooooooooo
It's ironic to see all the anger about Wal-Mart making the iPhone less-than-chic while clamoring for the iFart app. Hellloooooooooo
cmon farting is humor
Amen to this. Walmart moves into small towns, destroys the competition from small businesses, and forces the people who used to work in the small businesses to become their employees. "Slave" may be strong word, but it's not too far off the mark. Not to mention the fact that walmart is on the verge of settling a class action lawsuit for modifying time cards for employees and underpaying them. And, they are notorious for keeping many employees just under full time status to avoid providing health benefits. This is a company I simply refuse to support.
market penetration
The Wal-mart move is purely for market penetration. Believe it or not, there are still many areas that do not have at&t stores, Best Buys, or Apple stores. Wal-marts are EVERYWHERE. There are millions of people that shop exclusively at Wal-mart now that has become like it's own strip mall. In many towns, Wal-mart is THE mall. This is a brilliant move by Apple to increase iPhone sales. This is the move to make the iPhone a commodity.
The Wal-mart move is purely for market penetration. Believe it or not, there are still many areas that do not have at&t stores, Best Buys, or Apple stores. Wal-marts are EVERYWHERE. There are millions of people that shop exclusively at Wal-mart now that has become like it's own strip mall. In many towns, Wal-mart is THE mall. This is a brilliant move by Apple to increase iPhone sales. This is the move to make the iPhone a commodity.
Yeah, they are a big evil corporation that provide millions of jobs and affordable goods/services to millions of people. Wal-mart helps to drive down overall prices in the economy as well.
I will agree that the cost we are paying in supporting the growth of China is to our own detriment. Wal-mart is not evil. It's a business that provides what people want - cheap goods and services.
If you want to label something evil, look at unions. They provide $$ to themselves and higher prices to the rest of us. Unions are what have allowed companies like Wal-mart to thrive.
I personally don't shop at Wal-mart because they do have questionable business practices when it comes to small suppliers. They make small companies dependent on their business, then eventually force them to sell at lower prices. If they don't comply, they steal the product idea and send to China to be manufactured - putting that supplier out of business. Unfortunately, this is how business works - always has, always will. It's the price of freedom. It's a small price to pay, though. At least that small supplier can change it's business.