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Never said it was only Wallmart, never said we shouldn't hate other companies, never said this was only about outsourcing. I happen to be talking about Wallmart in a futile attempt to remain somewhat faithful to the thread topic, I think the big box craze as a whole is a problem and Wallmart is simply the most accomplished entity, and I started my comments by focusing on the impact to the regional economy.

I know it's hard to read all the way to the end of a post when you have so many important things to say, but it really helps keep the conversation directed if you do.

People complained when tiny mom and pop groceries were replaced by supermarkets.Wanna go back?Didn't think so.Society and commerce changes.Rail against the inevitable if it makes you feel better,but beyond that,it does nothing.
 
People complained when tiny mom and pop groceries were replaced by supermarkets.Wanna go back?Didn't think so.Society and commerce changes.Rail against the inevitable if it makes you feel better,but beyond that,it does nothing.

Not everyone is a fatalist. It is possible to resist change that is not good for the whole of society. In other words, not all change is progress. It takes people with their minds switched on to discern the difference between the two. For some of us, going through life accepting the "inevitable" is not reasonable and is even harmful to society.

You can cheerlead for conformity if that is what makes you feel better - but it does not necessarily influence those of us that choose to plot a different course. FWIW, I do shop substantially at local "mom and pop" grocery stores. So before you submit a strawman argument and proceed to give your own strawman answer, you might want to look outside of your own experiences.
 
People complained when tiny mom and pop groceries were replaced by supermarkets.Wanna go back?Didn't think so.Society and commerce changes.Rail against the inevitable if it makes you feel better,but beyond that,it does nothing.
What are you talking about? This is a ridiculous statement. There are plenty of places that still have mom & pop groceries. There are also farmer's markets and smaller food chains as well. Why does the "inevitable" mean mom & pop have to go out of business? It is possible for mom & pop and big box stores to co-exist. This gives the consumer more choice of who they want to support by where they spend their money. Walmart doesn't see it that way which is why they swoop in and destroy the competition. Society and commerce changes do NOT mean big box stores only.
 

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What are you talking about? This is a ridiculous statement. There are plenty of places that still have mom & pop groceries. There are also farmer's markets and smaller food chains as well. Why does the "inevitable" mean mom & pop have to go out of business? It is possible for mom & pop and big box stores to co-exist. This gives the consumer more choice of who they want to support by where they spend their money. Walmart doesn't see it that way which is why they swoop in and destroy the competition. Society and commerce changes do NOT mean big box stores only.
Exactly! I live in San Diego where there are a number of Walmarts *and* mom-n-pop stores and you know what? They actually coexist. We also have Farmer's Markets in just about every town and they are *hopping* with business every week. I think that most people would be surprised to know that goods and services provided by small business far surpass those provided by corporations. Actually, I am a living example. I own a small service-business that provides carpet cleaning as well as emergency service and structural drying for water damage. There are a *number* of "Walmarts" within our industry like Stanley Steamer, Coit and ServiceMaster but I'm doing just fine, thank you. :D

Oh yeah.....as far as stereotyping MR 'peeps. I own an iMac, MBP, :apple:TV, iPhone and a number of iPods. I also like George Bush, I voted for McCain and I'm straight! Go figure.
 
Wow, I am so disappointed in this thread so far (in terms of the posters). The main reason why Mac users are said to be uppity is largely due to the responses on this thread against Wal-mart.
Some of you think you're too damn good to shop at Wal-mart when Wal-mart is just another store that MANY of "US" (people who care about their money) shop at for our personal needs.

From .....

There are 4 Apple Stores in New York City and more than 100 AT&T Stores but in NYC there are 0 Walmart's. Why is this? Because there are still a lot of small businesses that we wont want them to go out of business.
 
I'm intrigued.Exactly what question would anyone on macrumours need to ask about the iphone before buying it at ANY store???

Thank you! It pains me how stupid some of these people on the forum are by saying that its best to go to AT&T or Apple to buy the iPhone because you can ask more questions about it and get more info. BS!!!!!

When the iPhone/3G was launched people were standing out in long lines ONLY to buy and activate the iPhone. They did not care about getting all sorts of information and have tons of questions answered about the phone. These same customers knew that Apple did not have time to do a Q/A session in terms of the iPhone. These customers bought the iPhone and went on their merry way. That's the typical cell phone customer. It's not like you're switching from PC to Mac, you don't need a bunch of questions answered to buy an iPhone.
When cheapskates go buy a $399 PC notebook on Black Friday do you think they are bugging the salespeople with endless questions? NO. They are just going in to buy and that's generally what happens when people buy iPods and iPhones. Wal-mart is an excellent vehicle to expand the iPhone.

The real truth is the snobs on this forum are nothing but kids 12-25 years old who don't have any financial responsibilities or responsibilities for that matter other than carrying their elitist snobby asses to school.
When they start having REAL financial responsibilities Wal-mart will start looking good when they need to buy underwear, socks and toiletries.

Some of you here are say the most stupidest things about not supporting Wal-mart because of "slave driven, underpaid labor". Well think about it, if you don't support Wal-mart those same "slave drive, underpaid" employees will be out of job. Which one's better?? :rolleyes:
 
....so some of need here need to stop acting like you're too good to shop at Wal-mart or too good to eat at Mc Donald's. :p
Another ridiculous post. You vote with your dollars. There is more to life than supporting WalMart or McDonald's. You do have a choice (unless you live in an area where Walmart destroyed their competition).
 
Which is why I don't have a problem buying Microsoft stuff.

Bill Gates has pledged to give away 95% of his wealth to charity --- so when you buy Microsoft products, you will ultimately help the world. Bill Gates isn't going to spend money on a 400 foot yacht or buying a sports team or spending money on a third/fourth trophy wife.

He should spend it on a few Mac Pros. :D :D :D
 
If you want apple to expand it's market share on the iPhone, I think it would be a great idea to sell at walmart. Apple is smart to release the iPhone at walmart after Christmas. Walmart was the top seller of giftcards this Christmas season.
 
Oh gosh, here we go again! Some people thinking they too da*n good to shop at Wal-Mart! That is SOO annoying!

My Management teacher was like that, and we all wanted to smack her in the mouth for the stuff she used to say. She admitted that she was too good to shop in Wal-Mart because she's rich and drives a Lexus. She was soo ugh! :rolleyes: I'm glad that class is over with. One more month of her constant bs and she was gonna have a fist against her mouth.
 
Welfare Phone

I promise people on welfare will have this phone soon, we will be leaving wal-mart with a homeless guy sitting down on his iphone wondering why his phone is on the edge network when he pays good change to be on the 3g. =) :cool:
 
I promise people on welfare will have this phone soon, we will be leaving wal-mart with a homeless guy sitting down on his iphone wondering why his phone is on the edge network when he pays good change to be on the 3g. =) :cool:

Some people on this forum have they're nose so high in the air its surprising they can still breath..
 
Thank you! It pains me how stupid some of these people on the forum are by saying that its best to go to AT&T or Apple to buy the iPhone because you can ask more questions about it and get more info. BS!!!!!

When the iPhone/3G was launched people were standing out in long lines ONLY to buy and activate the iPhone. They did not care about getting all sorts of information and have tons of questions answered about the phone. These same customers knew that Apple did not have time to do a Q/A session in terms of the iPhone. These customers bought the iPhone and went on their merry way. That's the typical cell phone customer. It's not like you're switching from PC to Mac, you don't need a bunch of questions answered to buy an iPhone.
When cheapskates go buy a $399 PC notebook on Black Friday do you think they are bugging the salespeople with endless questions? NO. They are just going in to buy and that's generally what happens when people buy iPods and iPhones. Wal-mart is an excellent vehicle to expand the iPhone.

The real truth is the snobs on this forum are nothing but kids 12-25 years old who don't have any financial responsibilities or responsibilities for that matter other than carrying their elitist snobby asses to school.
When they start having REAL financial responsibilities Wal-mart will start looking good when they need to buy underwear, socks and toiletries.

Some of you here are say the most stupidest things about not supporting Wal-mart because of "slave driven, underpaid labor". Well think about it, if you don't support Wal-mart those same "slave drive, underpaid" employees will be out of job. Which one's better?? :rolleyes:


Well said, I couldn't have said it better myself. The elitist here are just mad that wal-mart will "tarnish" their iPhone and they will no longer think they're cool because more people will now have them. Just like those who waited days in line to buy an iPhone so they can show it off and act like they're cool. Those same people were crying like little girls when Apple lowered the price of the iPhone by $200. That's what happens when you are among the first to buy something, you pay more because eventually the price will go down. The $200 more they paid should be called the elitist/fan boy tax, they paid more so for a while they can think they are cooler and better than everyone else.

:apple:
 
In Japan iPods are sold in 7-11s.

ipods7-11.jpg


Get over yourselves elitists, its a product and there is no prestige involved in owning a glorified silicon board that is designed for entertainment purposes. Apple is not some exalted brand. It just a brand. Just like Dell, Creative, and Microsoft.

EDIT: FYI- Foxconn makes iphones and zunes in the same factory. OH NOES DID STEVE STRIKE A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL TO HAVE *MY* iPhone MANUFACTURED IN *le gasp* A FACILITY WHERE MS HAS THEIR PRODUCT MANUFACTURED?
 
I stopped in Wal-Mart just a few minutes ago. I was hoping to find a case for my 3G iPhone. No such luck there, no cases to be found. :(

I guess I'll try BestBuy later and if I have no luck there, it's the Apple store.
 
The $99 will be for the iPhone Nano - hence AT&T not caring that Wal-Mart is selling the more expensive one... :eek:

I keep reading these supposed rumors about an iPhone nano. Is it just me or does the current iPhone seem like the *right* screen size? ...I wouldn't want it bigger or smaller, especially not like the size reduction that these concept drawings are showing.

I'm inclined to believe there is no Nano in the works.
 
Brief encounter with the Wal-Mart iPhone display

http://www.cnet.com/8301-18603_1-10129336-73.html

The price tags on display gave both the new customer/upgrade price, as well as the full retail price. A small paper sign taped to the wall announced that iPhone sales would commence at 9:00 am, and that customers should line up for access to limited stock.

LINE UP EVERYONE, WAL-MART IS SELLING IPHONES! LOL...

asked a sales clerk about first-day sales, and she said as far as she knew they hadn't sold a single unit so far, "but maybe if they had started selling it before Christmas..."

Obviously... :rolleyes:
 
Not everyone is a fatalist. It is possible to resist change that is not good for the whole of society. In other words, not all change is progress. It takes people with their minds switched on to discern the difference between the two. For some of us, going through life accepting the "inevitable" is not reasonable and is even harmful to society.
That makes the point far more succinctly than I'm going to be able to, so I just want to quote you up front.
People complained when tiny mom and pop groceries were replaced by supermarkets.Wanna go back?Didn't think so.Society and commerce changes.Rail against the inevitable if it makes you feel better,but beyond that,it does nothing.
Things change, that's true, and mom & pop groceries are one of the things I'd like back. Supermarkets jumped the shark when I needed a loyalty card to pay the shelf price. Railing rarely makes me feel good, but not railing is the sure way to make anything inevitable.
In Japan iPods are sold in 7-11s.

Get over yourselves elitists, its a product and there is no prestige involved in owning a glorified silicon board that is designed for entertainment purposes. Apple is not some exalted brand. It just a brand. Just like Dell, Creative, and Microsoft.
Ok, first-- have you ever been in a Japanese 7-11?!? Talk about quality service and a top notch buying experience...

Second, I've been seeing various versions of "elitist" and "snob" attached to this discussion, and I get the feeling it's this knee-jerk dismissive response. I've seen very few elitist comments in the thread, and most of those strike me as tongue-in-cheek. Can someone explain what in this discussion is elitist?
 
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