Wall Street Journal Confirms Early 2012 iPad 3 with Retina Display

[douglaswilliams]

Origins of Rumors

2048 x 1536 = 3,145,728

PI ~= 3.141592 --> 3,141,592

3,145,728 - 3,141,592 = 4136

www.4136.com is a website owned by some company in Shanghai, China.

Therefore, I predict the display for the iPad 3 will be manufactured somewhere in China.



On another note, it might be called the iPie and be round instead of rectangle!

Rumors, rumors...

 

[Navdakilla]

I thought we already knew a retina Ipad was coming in feb??

Only thing left is for apple to actually announce it. Until then I'm more than happy with the Ipad2 for now

 

[douglaswilliams]

I don't really care about other confirmations than from the providers themselves.

Then you would be looking for a news site...not a rumors site.

Idiot...

 

[StefSSU]

If something has been officially said by Jobs you can consider it fact..

Just like Jobs has repeatedly denied rumours of multiple future products and services (or discontinuation of such)?
Off the top of my head:

• White iPhone 4 coming "soon"
• XServe wouldn't be discontinued
• MobileMe/.Mac wouldn't be discontinued
• Apple not interested in mobile phones (prior to iPhone)
• Apple not interested in tablets (prior to iPad)
• Apple not interested in portable video players (prior to video iPod)
• PowerMac G5 would scale to 3 GHZ in a year
• iPhone OS would not have an SDK and native 3rd party applications
• PowerBook G5 availability
• iPhone 4 has no issues with the antenna design /reception (bit iffy this one, but nonetheless deceiving)
• Apple still interested in professional markets (despite acting otherwise and focusing increasingly more on consumer products)
• "it just works" *
• "1000 songs in your pocket" *

*Okay, the last two are definitely more marketing speak, but still misleading statements he's made before, akin to dozens of others. Macs aren't flawless, and I've never managed to contain the amount of songs or other data based on Apple's marketing, even using their recommended encoding! Don't get me wrong, I think that Apple is sometimes pretty good at this spec stuff, like battery life and such, but it's never a completely true statement. In any case, there's tons more and better examples. Remember that Jobs deceived Wozniak some 40 years ago when he paid Woz only $350 for his work in simplifying a circuit board design for Atari after agreeing to split the bonus (which was actually $5000) evenly. That's pretty concrete evidence that the guy isn't really trustworthy, or at least wasn't.

There's definitely better examples, I'm sure some of these may be mistaken as well. But, the point is he frequently bends the truth or outright deceives people publicly and in private email contact. Of course, as the CEO of a major company this is not unsurprising, it's simply a business tactic. He can't very well announce to everyone that a product will be obsolete in a couple months time or sales would stagnate. There's a term for it that I can't remember based on some company that did this and went bankrupt or something, I don't know, I don't do business or economics.

 

[derek1984]

Now I will finally get one

Been holding out since Apple announced the iPad. Was always intrigued. But I didn't want the first version and when there was no retina with the 2nd, I held off. Retina now does it for me. I'll finally be getting an iPad. I've waited this long, early 2012 is fine with me.

 

[B J M]

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Having gotten used to the retina display on my iPhone 4 I wouldn't buy an iPad until it receives the same treatment. That being said if the iPad 3 incorporates it I will be the first in queue

 

[ThatsMeRight]

The target audience for the iPad comes nowhere near technology rumors sites. They don't know what a Retina display is, probably haven't even heard the expression before and accordingly don't care.

The iPad is a device for people who don't care about technology. They want something that makes surfing the web and consuming content easy for them. They don't care if the damn thing has one, two or 4,096 CPU cores and they don't care about how many trillion pixels the display has -- as long as they can hit YouTube and iTunes with it.

So, NO, the availability of a Retina display will not effect iPad sales at all. The fistful of people that always want the latest and greatest and shiniest don't really matter in the big picture. Remember? The MacBook was the most successful Apple notebook, not the high-end 17" MacBook Pro and the iMac always out-sold the Mac Pro (or PowerMac) by far.

Besides, we've also heard the rumors that this Retina Display iPad might probably be named "iPad Pro" -- which means that there might be TWO different iPad product lines in the future. The one with the current display resolution and the one with the high resolution display. But one thing should be absolutely clear: Unless they subsidize it, Apple cannot sell a Retina display iPad at the price of the current iPad. The added costs of the high resolution display alone will be prohibitive.

I'd expect the low-end Retina iPad 3 (16GB without 3G) to cost at least as much as the high-end iPad 2 (64GB with 3G). I mean, I'd love to see the Retina version to replace the current product line at the same price level, but let's be realistic here: That's just not possible.

Let's be realistic, it is possible for the same price as the current iPad 2. Apple than will just make less profit. And don't underestimate what it will cost them: it will cost them significantly less than we think. What about the news that production of the iPad 2 already costs half of what the price was at launch? Apple is great in negotiating.

A retina display will cost Apple extra, but not 300%-400% more as you suggest.

And most customers of Apple products, first look up info on the internet. So, now they read all this news "next year iPad 3 with a much better display, like iPhone 4". And they keep hearing this until close to announcement. If there's no retina display, there definitely will be people who won't upgrade or buy the new iPad 3.

Sure, a lot of people will still buy the iPad 3 but there will also be enough people that won't.

 

[Meandmunch]

The target audience for the iPad comes nowhere near technology rumors sites. They don't know what a Retina display is, probably haven't even heard the expression before and accordingly don't care.

The iPad is a device for people who don't care about technology. They want something that makes surfing the web and consuming content easy for them. They don't care if the damn thing has one, two or 4,096 CPU cores and they don't care about how many trillion pixels the display has -- as long as they can hit YouTube and iTunes with it.

So, NO, the availability of a Retina display will not effect iPad sales at all. The fistful of people that always want the latest and greatest and shiniest don't really matter in the big picture. Remember? The MacBook was the most successful Apple notebook, not the high-end 17" MacBook Pro and the iMac always out-sold the Mac Pro (or PowerMac) by far.

Besides, we've also heard the rumors that this Retina Display iPad might probably be named "iPad Pro" -- which means that there might be TWO different iPad product lines in the future. The one with the current display resolution and the one with the high resolution display. But one thing should be absolutely clear: Unless they subsidize it, Apple cannot sell a Retina display iPad at the price of the current iPad. The added costs of the high resolution display alone will be prohibitive.

I'd expect the low-end Retina iPad 3 (16GB without 3G) to cost at least as much as the high-end iPad 2 (64GB with 3G). I mean, I'd love to see the Retina version to replace the current product line at the same price level, but let's be realistic here: That's just not possible.

You are mostly correct, mostly. When Apple finally does land a Retina display in an iPad it instantly on the surface becomes a vastly superior to other products on the shelf. Think about how Joe Average shops for a TV, budget aside look how many people are simply standing in the isle comparing "picture". They never consider the quality of signs being fed to the set, never consider if it is even set up right, they barely grasp the difference between 1080 and 720 just this one looks better than that one. Thats the kind of judgement Joe Average will make in the isles of Best Buy, without ever giving a damn about software or processor performance.

iPad 3, purrrttiest yet!

 

[crazy4apple]

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Holy smiley faces batman.

I really dont think the average purchaser of an ipad would really know the difference between the two screens and would buy one regardless.

Trust me, I hope they make one with a retina screen, but I just don't think people wouldn't buy them without one.

i do like me my smileys.

i have to disagree, more and more of the average consumer are becoming aware of screen resolution (i.e people now know what 1080p is and cameras with high pixel density are) though i do agree that even if ipad3 is not RD it will still sell

but i so want RD hence my reluctence to upgrade to IPAD 2 as cameras are not inportant to me on the ipad so no need to upgrade as the 1 for is just as good as the 2 if a little bit slower

 

[erawsd]

In other news, WSJ confirms Presidential Election for early November 2012!

I love how the media refuses to just admit they were wrong about the iPad 3 being released in October. Instead, its been "delayed" and a "new" release date is confirmed for early 2012.

 

[dodgerbluetx]

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Third revision and I still don't have a use for it.

We're (gf and I) diehard Apple people (five iPods, a Blackbook, a unibody MacBook, a 11" MacBookAir, a 2g ATV, and an iMac) and I still don't know what to do with an iPad. I can't really use it as a portable workstation because the input is too clumsy for documents, it doesn't read well compared to eInk and it's too big to be really portable without having to carry it (i.e. can't slide into my pocket like my iPod touch).

I guess that I'll have to file it under the same category of the iPhone. Somewhat overpriced and under-technologied without a distinct use.

Believe, me I'd love to buy one, but I just can't justify it if it's only for entertainment, as I'd rather spend money on something that would be more entertaining.

You have five iPods, three MacBooks, an ATV2, and an iMac, but can't justify the cost of an iPad if its "only for entertainment".

Are you for real?

 

[StefSSU]

In other news, WSJ confirms Presidential Election for early November 2012!

I love how the media refuses to just admit they were wrong about the iPad 3 being released in October. Instead, its been "delayed" and a "new" release date is confirmed for early 2012.

I'll take odds on that, given that back home elections aren't due till 2014

 

[h1r0ll3r]

My credit card is eagerly waiting....

 

[coder12]

This and the last rumor do not agree well. Can we all just make up our mind?

 

[mattlol]

hahahaha christ this site is a joke. another story about a media outlet reporting an "expected" release date and features for a future product from "reliable sources". even funnier, directly below it an article claiming there have been difficulties producing the retina display this article claims the next ipad includes. L-O-L.

 

[chrisfromalbany]

in other SHOCKING developments....

Water is still wet..
Sky is generally blue..
and Cookies are, for the most part, tasty..

 

[gudin]

"Confirms?"

How do you decide that the WSJ "confirms" something when the actual device manufacturer has made no such announcement?

Apple constantly holds things back until the last minute and has been known to remove things at the last minute if there was an issue with them. This is no "confirmation" this is a guess. Apple might do that, and might not. It takes a lot more horsepower to drive a display with that many pixels and they may simply decide it's not worth it yet. If this report was a week before a scheduled media event, I'd take it a little more seriously.

 

[ctdonath]

...I'm still undecided whether it's an essential item or a mere trinket, albeit an undeniably cool one.

Every time I go anywhere without it, I regret leaving it behind.
Seriously.

Maybe not a big deal if you already have an iPhone, but life-changing if you don't.

 

[Steveorevo]

Believe it when I see it. What's with all this 'duh, that what I'd expect'?

A retina display at this size would be a major technological feat... that is, if Apple can keep the device under $800 to $900 bucks. Seriously, and the graphics scaling? Games wouldn't be developed at this resolution, it would definitely only be for rendering text and vectors with bitmaps doing exponential sizing. Native bitmaps at that resolution would have to be exponentially larger, memory huge, and GPU blistering, and battery life would suffer. Not even going to mention 3D. Not saying I don't want one, but if these hurdles over reality are overcome I'd be drooling to have one.

Believe it when I see it.

 

[VitaminD]

...paired with an A6, it'll be a beautiful thing. (More RAM and even better cameras will be sweet too.)

Wonder what improvements will be made to the iPod touch and iMac 27" next year? Exciting...

 

[acidfast7]

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You have five iPods, three MacBooks, an ATV2, and an iMac, but can't justify the cost of an iPad if its "only for entertainment".

Are you for real?

It actually makes sense. We had two old shuffles, then a 4g for her and a 5.5g video for me. the battery won't hold a charge on the 4g, so it sits in the kitchen dock, nor on the 5.5g, which is only used in the car. I bought an iPod Touch to replace the 5.5g video (battery seems to be of better quality).

Blackbook for her work and a unibody Macbook for my work. the MBA goes with us when we travel (usually 10-14 weeks/year). the ATV2 w/PLEX plays stuck that we download on the TV which is nice.

All of these items make sense.

An iPad doesn't as one can't do any work on it (like the MBA), nor travel so easy with it (like an iPod Touch).

I am still baffled by what people use it for.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

He can't very well announce to everyone that a product will be obsolete in a couple months time or sales would stagnate. There's a term for it that I can't remember based on some company that did this and went bankrupt or something, I don't know, I don't do business or economics.

I think you are referring to the "Osborne Effect."

 

[DrRadon]

iPad news are getting bloody anoing, do you remember that the iPad 3 rumores started BEFORE the iPad 2 even was released and prittymuch was suposed to be released the week after.... and what now? IT´s COMMING A YEAR LATER! WHO SAW THAT COMMING!!!

 

[StefSSU]

I think you are referring to the "Osborne Effect."

Yep that's the one. I'd read it somewhere recently and it popped back into my head.

On another note, what's with all the negatives on my post? If some items are mistaken then sorry, they were off the top of my head and not referenced properly. It was just to point out that like any CEO he obviously can't answer honestly regarding some matters.

 

[soco]

The WSJ confirmed that they think/speculate the iPad 3 will release in early 2012 with a Retina Display.

Right?

Just sayin'...