Walmart Streaming Movie Service VUDU Coming to Apple TV on August 22

[Wakey87433]

You might be right, but it sounds like a different story from the quoted engineer.

BTW, I wasn't blaming Vudu or Amazon for not having an ATV app, I was just saying that the problem that the engineer stated, is easily solved. Whether it would be worth it to Vudu to use that solution is a whole different story.

Not really different though. You seem to be reading into it that they are implying they are banned from having an app and I'm pretty sure its the case that without inapp it simply wasn't viable
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[doublepost=1502910543][/doublepost]Hmm, I cheerfully buy ebooks from Amazon using Safari on my Mac, and then read them using the Kindle app on my iPad and iPhone - I would guess that isn't so uncommon.

A ebook is slightly different though. You are generally buying a book with the view of not consuming it now but later on. With movies it's often more impulsive as you are looking for something to consume right now.

 

[CarlJ]

Their apps work just fine without the ability to purchase in them. There is nothing stopping them from making an AppleTV app.

Amazon Video and Vudu both work excellent on my iPhone and iPad. I spend money on their services on the web and the apps work great. Amazon Prime is a subscription at Amazon's site, Amazon wants the customers (me!) happy or they (me) might stop using Amazon Prime and use some other app.

The only thing Apple is stoping them from is the spontaneous sale. I do wonder how many spontaneous sales they lose and they earn 0% (instead of 70%), but that's up to the marketing department.

So very much this! I buy ebooks from Amazon on my Mac and read them on my iPad, I'd like to be able to buy/rent movies from Amazon on my Mac and watch them on my Apple TV. Currently they're getting $0 from me for digital movie rentals/sales, when they put their app on Apple TV, I'll likely end up buying/renting some things. With the transaction likely taking place on my Mac, because that's where the keyboard is. If they had in-app rentals, I might use that occasionally, and they'd make more from me than they are now.

Where are you getting all this BAD GUY stuff?
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My only complaint is when people word it that Apple refuses to put their app on the app store because it's competition, it's not like the reasoning is all that complicated.

Some people need to see Apple as "the man"/evil corporation, and they need to strike back. Tilting at windmills.

All they have to do is make the app, that's already been coded for iOS on the portable devices, for the AppleTV and they're ready to go, they don't even need to start from scratch. Money is not required, no deal is required. Get the app on the site, when people complain they can't purchase from the app, tell them Apple wanted too big of a cut.

This! They have most of a tvOS app already in their iOS apps, port that to Apple TV, and if Apple's terms (now or if something changes this Fall) aren't to their liking, make the app "play only", and put in their FAQ on their website that the reason you can't purchase in-app is Apple wanted too big of a cut.

 

[Wakey87433]

So very much this! I buy ebooks from Amazon on my Mac and read them on my iPad, I'd like to be able to buy/rent movies from Amazon on my Mac and watch them on my Apple TV. Currently they're getting $0 from me for digital movie rentals/sales, when they put their app on Apple TV, I'll likely end up buying/renting some things. With the transaction likely taking place on my Mac, because that's where the keyboard is. If they had in-app rentals, I might use that occasionally, and they'd make more from me than they are now.

No inapp rentals they would make exactly the same from you. Apple take a 30% cut which comes out of Amazons cut of the revenue. As the studios take 70% of the purchase price that's Amazon making nothing
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This! They have most of a tvOS app already in their iOS apps, port that to Apple TV, and if Apple's terms (now or if something changes this Fall) aren't to their liking, make the app "play only", and put in their FAQ on their website that the reason you can't purchase in-app is Apple wanted too big of a cut.

It's not as simply as just porting their iOS app especially for video apps. And just doing a play app actually competlety removes their negotiation position to get Apple to stop being greedy. The platforms don't really provide anything that justifies 30%, really all they provide apps is a payment gateway (Everything else they claim to provide they give for nothing more than the developer fee to apps without inapp payments) so anything north of 5% is excessive. I can understand maybe for small developers as there is perhaps a risk there but for the likes of Amazon and Vudu no platform should be so rigid that they won't give them competitive terms. Google is a little bit more flexiable but even they are said to not budge below about 10-15%.

If all the platforms would just flexible and charge a competitive payment processing fee it would help the whole industry's because the segregation it causes because you can only buy from one store on each device. It keeps people away from buying digital unless you fully buy into one hardware company for everything. There is something wrong when it's more convenient to buy blurays, rip them and put them into Plex.

I'm fairly sure as both were announced at the same time a deal was done, either Apple have finally decided to be flexiable and have agreed to terms that make inapp viable or they have paid to get them on the platform (this is something Roku has done with services before)

 

[CarlJ]

A ebook is slightly different though. You are generally buying a book with the view of not consuming it now but later on. With movies it's often more impulsive as you are looking for something to consume right now.

Agreed that statistically, movies can be more impulsive, though in my case I'm often looking at a movie (for rental/purchase) because I've heard good things about it, rather than looking for something to rent right now because I'm bored (Netflix/Hulu/YouTube usually cover that just fine).

 

[D.T.]

Sun is pretty bright when you peak out from under that rock isn't it .

I think you'd be surprised at the people who don't realize Vudu is a business unit of Wally-mart (even with one of the auth methods being a walmart.com login ...)

 

[D.T.]

FYI, this is now available - might take a few to show up in your App Store Up and running on one our ATV4s!

 

[D.T.]

Semi-off-topic: Right now, my D-to-D mobile isn't working because I'm not getting proper geo locating - tried removing it, re-install, it appears to be (and this is _weird_), pulling an alternate / non-primary billing address from my PayPal account.

Finally fixed this, my PP address had to match the billing address (entered into my Vudu account), exactly, even down to using St vs. Street.