looks like the iphone 5 is not selling well, poor apple. GS4 and the htc one have really affected the sales
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Walmart to Discount iPhone 5 By $60 Beginning Saturday
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Did you seriously think people used the literal meaning of the word magical to describe their products or something? And you must be living in another world if you don't think several of these products have revolutionized markets significantly (more than many of their competitors for sure).
Or what, do you really think Samsung's new toy is really "the next big thing"?
Until Apple has stores throughout Flyover, America, Walmart will remain the only game in town for many folks.
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I can't imagine how anybody can get by with 16Gb these days, even 32 seems a bit claustrophobic.
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If one can get by with a bit slower device, a bit weaker camera (5Mp, no panorama), no Siri, no mirroring to an Apple TV, then a 4 might be adequate, but I would recommend a 4s if one can afford the extra cost, or to wait a couple months until the price of the 4s falls to today's 4 range. And for God's sake try to get a 32 Gb memory.
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My guess is Walmart committed to move a certain number of units in order to get a certain purchase price rebate from apple. If they miss the commitment, their rebate will be reduced. I also expect Walmart has a counter commitment from apple to reduce wholesale price according to market conditions.
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Is this true or just troll bait?
I don't think they'd get rid of the iPhone 5. Isn't expected starting price line up $199 iPhone 5S, $99 iPhone 5, $0 iPhone (cheaper version)?
Not really. Samsung cut orders of S4 components this week. After a good month, S4 sales have really fallen off.
5S coming sooner
This is an interesting take on things. It would explain the departure from Apple's typical hold on MAP.
However, I am skeptical that they would jettison the prior products, due to worldwide supply chain issues. No way they could ramp a whole new line and ditch everything in production and not destroy their margins. We also would be seeing a lot more parts leaks.
On the other hand, I just don't see how Apple can tolerate the flagship iPhone 5 selling for $129 for the whole summer. Apple is definitely participating with Wal-Mart and BestBuy. I would guess this really means the 5S is coming sooner than expected. Special event in mid July, shipping by July 31. Any more than 3-4 weeks of bargain prices on the iPhone 5 just seems like marketing suicide.
This all makes me think you will be able to get an iPhone 5S running iOS 6. (Some people are going to really like that, and buying the 5 on sale or waiting for the 5S will be even more nerve-wracking, I guess)
This is an interesting take on things. It would explain the departure from Apple's typical hold on MAP.
However, I am skeptical that they would jettison the prior products, due to worldwide supply chain issues. No way they could ramp a whole new line and ditch everything in production and not destroy their margins. We also would be seeing a lot more parts leaks.
On the other hand, I just don't see how Apple can tolerate the flagship iPhone 5 selling for $129 for the whole summer. Apple is definitely participating with Wal-Mart and BestBuy. I would guess this really means the 5S is coming sooner than expected. Special event in mid July, shipping by July 31. Any more than 3-4 weeks of bargain prices on the iPhone 5 just seems like marketing suicide.
This all makes me think you will be able to get an iPhone 5S running iOS 6. (Some people are going to really like that, and buying the 5 on sale or waiting for the 5S will be even more nerve-wracking, I guess)
Let's not get it twisted. S4 sales are dying because there are better Android choices in 2013. Not because the iPhone is selling like hotcakes. Do we really believe a iPhone 5s is going to out sale the 5? Expect this price for the 5s by March 2014.
People forget that Apple has to battle Android; not just Samsung.
I doubt that. iOS7 is unlikely to be ready for final release by then and new hardware does not make sense before the OS update. I would not expect 5S before Labor Day.
Will the iPhone 5s outsell the iPhone 5?
Yes.
Here is why - look at the install base from the iPhone 4 to iPhone 4s. It made a huge jump from 4 to 4s.
There is a huge number of 4s owners that are JUST NOW becoming eligible for their upgrades at AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, etc, who are waiting for the 5s to be available. Most of the iPhone 5 owners were the ones coming off their iPhone 4 contract.
It's interesting to see all the Apple approved retailers following each other discounting Apple's flagship iPhone 5. I've never seen the discount window on the high end iPhone like it is right now. The big question is this. How much of an upgrade will the 5S be over the 5? If its just a processor and camera bump, the 5 for a little over 100 bucks new is a smoking deal for us 4S- ers who are ready to upgrade.
I think someone forgot that the iphone 4 and iphone 4s out sale the more expensive iphone 5. There are plenty of people that just want a cheap iphone. Hence the reason for these cheap iphone rumors. It's a mistake for Apple to cater to these people.
And can someone explain why Apple builds all these Apple stores to only get undercut by Walmart and BestBuy? It's not like Apple sales their laptops and desktops in huge quantity. Even microcenter has the ipad mini for $299.
Apple sold a total of 37 million iPhones last quarter.
Do you know that for a fact that the older iPhone 4 and 4S are outselling the iPhone 5?
Can you take your Mac to Wal-Mart to get fixed? Is there anyone at Wal-Mart to talk to if you have questions?
I think Best Buy has a guy there part time... but it's not the same level of service.
And there's your answer to why Apple has their own stores... service.
And in case you've forgotten... Apple Stores have the highest revenue per square foot. So this supposed "undercutting" by Wal-Mart isn't affecting that.
He doesn't know. Apple doesn't release figures on how the iPhone sales are broken down.
1. Let's look at the facts. Apple would have promoted left and right that the iPhone 5 outsold the iPhone 4s; wouldn't you. Instead they have to combine all the sales to make it look decent. The article below was from Dec 2012. The 4S was outselling the iPhone 5 6 months ago while in it's prime. Show me one article that claims that the iPhone 5 outsold the previous gen.
http://bgr.com/2012/12/14/iphone-5-sales-iphone-4s/
2. So your telling me that Apple stores are now glorified repair and exchange centers? Basically your saying Apple products are not reliable and/or people are too dumb to operate Apple gear.
It is the same blindness that has Apple stocks down and why Tim Cook got his deal re-evaluated. Too many people still kissing Apple's feet. Next year January is going to be worst for the iPhone.
That website you linked is not "fact." An analyst from UBS said he reduced his earnings estimate based upon "Chinese sources." Here are actual facts:
The iPhone 4 sold roughly 1.7 million in it's first weekend.
The iPhone 4s sold roughly 4.0 million in it's first weekend.
The iPhone 5 sold roughly 5.0 million in it's first weekend.
Considering all those 4s owners that have been locked into their contracts until now, and are becoming eligible for upgrade starting this summer, I would say the demand for the 5s will be huge.
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