AT&T will have rapid expansion of LTE once iPhone 5 is out.. They'll have to.
Just like their rapid expansion of quality 3G service after the 3G in 2008? To date, their GSM 3G is still less coverage than Verizon's 3G. It took them years to even get close to Verizon's coverage.
Nice call...AT&T launched 7 new markets launched today and 47 new markets to launch by the end of 2012.
Can't tell if this is sarcastic or not. Verizon is already in ~ 400 cities. AT&T is in ~ 50.
And you're nuts if you think Verizon is sitting around waiting for AT&T to play catch up.
Not really. ATT's HSPA+ is just about as fast as Verizons's LTE. In my area, HSPA+ I am seeing over 20mps in some areas. LTE on ATT is over 40Mps. With ATT's much better back haul on it's towers, something Verizon doesn't have. On average ATT's average speeds are much faster than Verizons.
ATT's LTE is much, much faster than Verizons. Almost twice as fast on average. You will not see a performance drop going from 10mps on HSPA+ on ATT to LTE on their network.
Verizon on the other hand, going from Verizons's 3G to LTE the difference is drastic. Verizon's average speeds on 3G is under 1mps!
At some point LTE will be all over on both networks. Than ATT will have a huge advantage due to their more robust 3G network.
Like the Sprint users before you , don't make the same mistake. The grass isn't greener on the other side all the time.
I'll have what you're smoking! AT&T supports 14.4 Mbps HSPDA+. 21 Mbps HSPDA+ is only recently starting to be rolled out in certain cities, and many devices don't support it anyways.
I'm sure LTE on AT&T is acceptable for LTE, but since it's only in so few cities, that's a moot point for most people.
I don't see any real disparities in LTE speeds, it's certainly based on market ... which Verizon trumps by default since it's widely available in 8 times more markets.
Please post these places of where you are seeing AT&T LTE
DOUBLING the speeds of Verizon's LTE. This is unfounded and inaccurate.
Who CARES about Verizon's 3G speeds. As far as I am concerned as a user, I am only ever in cities, so I am always on LTE in that case. I guess if you live in the middle of no where, where there is no LTE, you have a different case. But LTE on Verizon covers over 2/3 of Americans. I'm not aware that AT&T's HSPDA+ 14.4 Mbps even covers 2/3 of Americans.
You're either lying, or misinformed. First of all, AT&T does not have a HSPA+ device that can do over 21mbps, so you're not seeing "over 20mbps" on HSPA+ on their network. Second, they only have 14.4Mbps HSPA+ rolled out at this time. I can tell you have never used verizons LTE if you really believe there is no difference from AT&T's HSPA+. Verizon has just as much backhaul, if not more than AT&T at their towers which is why they can roll out as fast as they are.
Verizon also owns more 700mhz spectrum than AT&T, this enables them to run 10mhz bandwith in all areas of rollout, where in some ares you will be on AT&T.
Finally, verizon will have LTE completely covering existing 3G footprint by 2013, guess what AT&T promises by then? complete HSPA+ coverage of their 3G footprint, which is still not as widespread as verizon.
Come on man, check your facts before starting argument with such statements.
+1 Exactly.
I posted this as a separate thread, but I'm hoping someone can help me.
I'm in Austin, and I've been with AT&T since the iPhone 3G. Over the past 6-9 months, AT&T's 3G data speeds have been atrocious. I feel like I've been on dial up. Some parts of town are a little faster but for the most part it sucks big time. Add the frequent dropped calls, and I'm pissed.
I've been thinking about switching to Verizon. Yes I'll lose my unlimited plan, but with capping it's not really unlimited. Plus I don't use near 4GB, which is what I would get with Verizon. One challenge is that Verizon is going to be $30 more per month. I'm on AT&T's 450 minute plan with over 3000 roll over minutes plus free mobile to mobile, texting, and nights. I don't think Verizon's unlimited calling will be much of a benefit.
So my question is specifically for the Austin market. My concern is that data problems may be an issue when a flood of iPhone 5's hit the market. I'm also concerned that LTE may not do anything to fix dropped calls since it's most likely a tower positioning and density issue. Can someone chime in on their experience with Verizon's LTE service and AT&T's LTE service in this area from a data perspective and phone perspective (obviously a non iPhone if we are talking LTE for voice calls)? Is it worth the extra $30 a month?
Thanks in advance.
Verizon's network hasn't collapsed like AT&T's has. If you switch to Verizon, in a place where they have solid coverage and speeds now, that won't change in a month.
Assuming Austin is a large enough market, I think you'll be fine. I would google for research, this thread isn't really appropriate.