Warby Parker App Uses iPhone X TrueDepth Camera to Find Your Ideal Specs

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Spectacles company Warby Parker recently updated its mobile app to include a novel implementation of Apple's face recognition technology exclusive to the iPhone X.

    The glasses app uses the smartphone's front-facing TrueDepth camera to map the user's face and create an ideal fit for a new set of frames.


    Apple's Face ID authentication works by projecting 30,000 dots on the surface of a person's face, accurately mapping its curvature and unique features.

    The camera's sensors also capture the data in three dimensions, and it's this technology in particular that the glasses app uses to recommend to the user a series of frames that it thinks will fit their facial structure.

    The only failing of the app is that it doesn't (yet) place the spectacles on the user's face, Snapchat-style, to let the customer see what they look like wearing them.

    Apple's ARKit augmented reality framework would seem to be the obvious solution to this lack. We've reached out to Warby Parker to ask if they have any plans to make use of it, and will update this article if we hear back.

    (Via Mashable.)

    Article Link: Warby Parker App Uses iPhone X TrueDepth Camera to Find Your Ideal Specs
  2. keysofanxiety macrumors G3


    Nov 23, 2011
    This is seriously revolutionary stuff when considering the long game. In five years' time this sort of example will be second nature and we'll never know how we did without it. That's what Apple have fundamentally achieved over the years; great technology that has practical use in real life.

    Eventually the 'technology' aspect fades away, becoming part of the every day and ultimately indispensable.
  3. Ntombi macrumors 68040


    Jul 1, 2008
    Bostonian exiled in SoCal
    This is exactly the sort of thing I’m excited about moving forward.

    Warby Parker is already leading the pack in terms of virtual fittings, I can’t wait to see what they do next.

    I’ve worn glasses or contacts since I was five (in 1979), and I have not-so-fond memories of trying to see what I looked like with empty frames, yet being so near-sighted that my face had to be within inches of the mirror. Trying on new frames while wearing contacts felt miraculous by the time I got to high school, this is next level stuff.
  4. MarioTUSA macrumors newbie


    Oct 30, 2017
    I tried the application. The APP does the measure and suggests the ones that will fit you. They have the option to choose 5 frames and try at home. Why not have the option to try on the fly with the APP ?
  5. alq macrumors member

    May 6, 2011
    Does the TrueDepth system only work with faces? I think about shoe companies that make shoes according to the TrueDepth pic/scan of your feet...
  6. Maetzle macrumors regular


    Jun 2, 2014
    Whilst this is really cool I have to wonder. I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I'm not paranoid, I don't have any trust issues when it comes to using FaceID or TouchID data being sent off to whomever by Apple, but when it comes to 3rd party apps I'm not so sure. Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me. Does the app send the data it mapped to the company? Is this mapping any different from what FaceID does, maybe less accurate?
  7. MarioG macrumors newbie

    Jan 28, 2014
    Is anyone aware of a website with similar frames as those that is available in Europe? :)
  8. DJM1740 macrumors newbie

    Aug 12, 2015
    This seems to contradict what Apple told a Senate committee back in October, when questioned about the accessibility of facial scans and privacy:

    “Apple's response to Franken largely restates information available on Apple's website about how Face ID works - such as the fact that "faceprints" are not collected by Apple, that third-party developers cannot collect face data from developers, and how the technology works. “. (From Business Insider)

    Seems as though third parties can in fact collect face data. Granted It’s with the user’s consent to use the app, but it’s still contrary to what Apple said before.

    Am I misunderstanding something here?
  9. bollman macrumors 6502

    Sep 25, 2001
    Lund, Sweden
    Exactly what does the EULA state for that app? What can they do with the face data they've collected? I'm pretty certain most people don't read the EULA so...
  10. jdusoccer12 macrumors regular

    Aug 3, 2008
    As far as I can determine developers have access to true depth information from the camera system, which is different than Face ID data. Apple provides them with the ability to access like 50 or so measurements from the true depth camera system. But they don't have access to any of the Face ID data or the algorithm that creates and checks for Face ID.
  11. keysofanxiety macrumors G3


    Nov 23, 2011
    I imagine this is a huge security concern that Apple have seriously considered. Perhaps the app can utilise the face data within the constraints of the application but is not able to send the data back to the server.

    I would definitely be interested to find out for certain though...
  12. afjarboe, Nov 8, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2017

    afjarboe macrumors newbie

    Jun 9, 2011
    Edit: never mind. The feature shows up when looking at glasses, but not sunglasses.
  13. MH01 Suspended


    Feb 11, 2008
  14. Avieshek Suspended


    Dec 7, 2013
    You can be naked and making a live video call wearing a suit, rolex, monte blanc and also be bald.. :rolleyes:
  15. nikon1 macrumors member


    Sep 15, 2014
    Somewhere In South Jersey
    Great idea! You’re working from home - and your boss calls! Your boss sees you as described in Avieshek’s post!

    It’s truly that scene from The Jetson’s — that cartoon show from the mid-60’s, predicting life in the future!
  16. Ntombi macrumors 68040


    Jul 1, 2008
    Bostonian exiled in SoCal

    What’s available to 3rd party apps is only part of what makes the Face ID work. They get limited information compared to what the phone can actually do.

    I can’t remember in which article, but I read that Apple gives access to a dumbed-down version, and that it’s not enough to extrapolate back to a true face.

    I wish I had bookmarked it when I read it, because this is a legitimate concern that I believe has been addressed already.
  17. predation macrumors 65816

    Apr 3, 2013
    South Park
  18. RightMACatU macrumors 65816


    Jul 12, 2012
  19. star_nerdy macrumors member

    Feb 6, 2017
    It won’t work on feet.

    Even if it did work technically to map your feet, the issue is stride. How you walk determines what type of shoe you need.
  20. gatearray macrumors 65816

    Apr 24, 2010
    How on earth did anyone ever buy eyeglasses before this latest gimmicky crap?! Amazing! /s
  21. WWPD macrumors regular


    Aug 21, 2015
    Ten Forward
    Pretty soon we can try on clothes as well, another nail in the coffin for brick and mortar.
  22. trusso macrumors 6502

    Oct 4, 2003
    Or you could – *gasp* – go to the optometrist in person. :cool:
  23. neutralguy macrumors 6502a

    Jun 5, 2015
  24. GrumpyMom macrumors 604


    Sep 11, 2014
    I think the person who does the glasses fittings is an optician. The optometrist just does the exam to determine the prescription. I’m not trying to nitpick at you, I’m trying to get that straight in my own mind because I need to get new glasses. My new ones broke already and they won’t do a warranty repair (the warranty was only for 30 days) so I need to find a new whatsahoozit. ;)
  25. NufSaid macrumors regular


    Oct 28, 2015
    ÜT: 41.065573,-83.668801
    Can't wait until I get the X....I will order up some glasses. I am due a pair.

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