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Netflix’s challenge is to survive the next few years as all of the studio specific services are launched. I can only see Disney succeeding as a stand-alone entity due to the sheer range of content that they have. But Netflix will bleed it’s non exclusive content and have to hope that its own content is sufficiently compelling to retain an audience willing to pay so that it can pick up content when the other studios services flounder.
 
I’ll pass. HBO has shamefully low bitrate in so called “HD” quality.
When they ask to pay premium I’m expecting premium in return.
HBO we are in 2019 now and 4K is nothing unusual.
 
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Lmao these companies are literally pushing people towards piracy again. Sad!
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Nobody wants to subscribe to multiple services every month just to watch a bunch of exclusives.
Those people can continue using cable as they always have or subscribe and never unsubscribe. Depending on how you watch your shows you can save a boatload of money doing it this way. The companies are just banking on people signing up for it and forgetting about it.
 
This streaming nonsense is gonna end like the 1983 video game crash. Everyone can’t be in this game churning out crap, people aren’t going to flock to this nonsense.
 
This streaming nonsense is gonna end like the 1983 video game crash. Everyone can’t be in this game churning out crap, people aren’t going to flock to this nonsense.
But now you can pick which shows you want to watch and only subscribe to those streaming services that are needed whereas before you would be paying a lot more for channels you likely never touched.
 
Since you need internet to stream this stuff, I already have to use cable or DSL. Add in the channels you want and it really didn't save me any money. If I only watched about three channels perhaps. I prefer cable and I think Hulu and Netflix are reasonably priced.... for now.
 
Someone needs to bundle all these streaming services together and give me an easy way to switch between them. Maybe a box that sits on top of your TV with little switches to press. That's the ticket! Sign me up!
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The audience fragmentation is going to doom otherwise good programming. This move looks like a circular way of simply raising the price of what has essentially been HBO up to this point.

I'm guessing "HBO max" will be at *least* $20 a month but I won't be surprised if it hit $25 or more.
 
So my $15 to HBO a month isn’t enough. I need to add another service to get more originals?
 
So my $15 to HBO a month isn’t enough. I need to add another service to get more originals?

You don't 'need' to add anything unless having access to more originals is somehow imperative to your survival.

For those complaining, just because you don't personally want to subscribe to another service doesn't mean they can't or shouldn't exist for those who do. Complaining about it is pointless and quite silly. No one is being forced into anything.
 
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I don't understand the negativity. More streaming services means more options. Easy to subscribe and cancel. Subscribe when you want it, cancel when you don't.
I would agree if the pricing (which hasn't been revealed) is reasonable.

Some of the major competitors:
  • Amazon Prime Video (UHD): $8.99 ($12.99 with full Prime)
  • CBS All Access (HD): $5.99 (with ads), $9.99 (without ads)
  • Disney+ (UHD): $6.99
  • Hulu (HD): $5.99 (with ads), $11.99 (without ads)
  • Netflix: $8.99 for SD, $12.99 for HD, $15.99 for UHD
With HBO Now at $14.99, I strongly suspect HBO Max will cost between $19.99 and $24.99. I think for the service to truly compete, AT&T would have to offer ad-supported plan as well, ideally $9.99 for HBO Now and $14.99 for HBO Max (or discount of $5).
 
Here's my announcement: Arrr, I'm sailing to open waters!

Want to watch The Office? Subscribe to NBC.
Want to watch Friends? Subscribe to HBO Max.
Want to watch SomethingThatThey'llPullFromNetflixSoon? Subscribe to BrandNewStreamingService.

10 bucks here, 10 bucks there, 10 bucks over there and in the end you'll end up paying like 100 bucks a month if you want to legally watch the things you like.

I don't mind paying like 30 bucks total for subscriptions a month. Music (Apple Music/Spotify), Movies/TV (Netflix), Something else like YouTube Premium (No ads on mobile) and iCloud/Google One storage.

If there's something missing from the services I subscribe to, I'll just watch it somewhere else, that may not be so legal. At this rate it's seriously becoming easier to just torrent something than to find where you can stream it legally. Oh and don't forget that it may not be available in your country. If X movie is available in the US, it may not be available in the UK and crap like that.


I’m kinda the opposite. I don’t mind paying multiple services for my media. I have several streaming/subscription services and I pay like $50/month which is still less than I used to pay for cable. And some of my subscriptions are just for a few months like when I get Fubo for NFL season.
 
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My guess is all this content will be pulled from all other services.
Bingo. The MR article is misses all the shenanigans that AT&T is pulling here:

AT&T is making Time Warner shows exclusive to HBO Max even though it told government officials that it would continue to distribute Time Warner content as widely as possible.

In December 2016, when AT&T was seeking government permission to buy Time Warner, AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson told a Senate antitrust subcommittee the following:

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Nor is there any reason to believe we could use Time Warner programming or AT&T networks to hurt related markets. Simply put, it would be irrational business behavior to do so. Time Warner's programming is more valuable when distributed to as many eyes as possible. Moreover, in order to have great programming, it is imperative that we attract great creative talent to develop it. The best way to attract that talent is through widespread distribution of Time Warner content.

From: https://arstechnica.com/information...ime-warner-shows-to-its-own-streaming-service
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I don't understand the negativity. More streaming services means more options. Easy to subscribe and cancel. Subscribe when you want it, cancel when you don't.
More streaming options isn't beneficial especially in cases like with the creation of WarnerMedia which allowed AT&T to control a large amount of content - followed by making them exclusive to their own service which is what happened here. It would be better for consumers if the content was made available on more services.
 
Here's my announcement: Arrr, I'm sailing to open waters!

Want to watch The Office? Subscribe to NBC.
Want to watch Friends? Subscribe to HBO Max.
Want to watch SomethingThatThey'llPullFromNetflixSoon? Subscribe to BrandNewStreamingService.
Netflix's biggest problem is that viewers prefer other studio's library titles, especially younger viewers. Depending on the demographic, only 25-33% of the views on Netflix are Netflix Originals. And unlike library catalog like The Office and Friends, Netflix Originals are far less rewatched.

As most of Netflix's popular shows move to CBS All Access, HBO Max, Hulu, and NBC's yet-to-be-titled service, I hope Netflix will rethink its premium pricing model.
 
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Two words: **** YOU! This is why I will continue to resort to "other" options when viewing my media.
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I don't understand the negativity. More streaming services means more options. Easy to subscribe and cancel. Subscribe when you want it, cancel when you don't.

Yeah, it doesn't work that way in the world of media. More services means "more options you must pay for" to get the content you want. Greed has resulted in content owners simply creating their own streaming services, holding back content for exclusivity on their platform. Yeah, you have choices, but must partake in all of them to get anything you may want on a whim. This isn't a case where competition helps the consumer. This is the opposite. Competition hurts the consumer.

What about an open platform where content owners can submit content and anyone can just watch/buy anything they like using this open standard? LOL pipe dream.

I feel bad for Netflix. Unless they have 50 original shows that everyone loves, they are doomed. The 3 major content owners will have all content out of Netflix and into their own services within 24 months. On Netflix, you'll get stuff you get on Pluto with ads.

Greed. ****ing greed. They have taken the 20th century bundle, and called in a streaming package for the 21st century. In reality, we are still getting our bundles whether we know it or not via HTTP vs coax. The whole idea of networks is out of date. People only care about content. But to sell you one show for $30 for a full season doesn't make as much as charging you $10/mo for loads of crap you don't care about. I care about one show on HBO, and I can't just buy it as a season pass. Wow, more options! Sign me up!
 
I’m kinda the opposite. I don’t mind paying multiple services for my media. I have several streaming/subscription services and I pay like $50/month which is still less than I used to pay for cable. And some of my subscriptions are just for a few months like when I get Fubo for NFL season.
Dude, if you are *only* paying $50.00/mo, inside of two years, you'll *only* be paying $75-80 per month for less, or $100+/mo for more, and in "more" I mean stuff you don't want.

At $50.00/mo, you will not have any type of great live streaming service and forget about adding HBO, Netflix, Hulu, CBS, Disney, etc.... $50.00 will get you almost nothing in short order.
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Someone needs to bundle all these streaming services together and give me an easy way to switch between them. Maybe a box that sits on top of your TV with little switches to press. That's the ticket! Sign me up!
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LOL And remember how fast the channels changed back then? You could actually surf. Now you switch a channel, and between buffering and whatever else it's trying to do... forget it. Back in the day I could click past 20 channels in 10 seconds and now what was on each. Now it takes 5 seconds for something to load.
[doublepost=1562713871][/doublepost]Oh, and for the guy who said more choice is better... lolz

https://www.technadu.com/directv-now-old-bundles-renames-doubles-prices/62699/

And let's not forget about the cost of internet service going up. I pay $60/mo for trash. Soon $100/mo bills for simple "access" will be the norm. Then add your 10 streaming plans you'll want to subscribe to, and great entertainment can be had for the low price of $300/mo.
 
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