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Oh great, the “but it’s a beta” crowd again.

Betas are actually for devs to build and test apps before release. This is a pretty big impediment for testing GPS functionality as it’s one of the things that you can’t test well in the simulator, or down level versions if you’re developing against the newer APIs.
Sure, but it's not like this is in any way unprecedented or even that unusual in software. It happens to all companies that deal with complex operating systems that are crammed with thousands of interdependencies. It will inevitably happen from time to time.
 
When I remove the iOS 16 Beta Profile, the search for iOS updates fails with „Unable to check for update“.
 
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For those saying it’s a beta, I’ve used betas before that didn’t have a gps problem.

Apple’s software quality control has declined, as shown from:
  • Various severe Monterey bugs (in some versions of Monterey, I had hard kernel panics when a tb4 dock was connected to my M1 Max MacBook, and the Mac woke from sleep… a problem I never experienced on any other OS except for Monterey)
  • stage manager bugs in iPadOS/Ventura.
  • iOS 15.0 (initial point release) bugs with pairing an Apple Watch.
  • iOS 16.0 bugs with activation of iMessage/FaceTime.
  • All the 0 days in Monterey and iOS 15.
  • Monterey also had bugs with the firmware update process, and was bricking some M1 Pro/max laptops.
I know bugs exist in software, and Microsoft has its share of serious issues, but some of apple’s bugs are severe.

And we, the apple community, should demand more from apple. Especially since apple is raising the price of its devices (outside the USA).
 
Finding these types of bugs before a widespread public reason is literally the purpose of beta testing. Everyone installing a beta knows there’s things that go wrong.
....and the fact that this particular issue is related to dual-GPS devices only makes it even more likely to have something occur. Gajillion lines of code affecting thousands of apps that use this feature. It will be fixed and my guess is fixed sooner rather than later. Despite being a beta, Apple won't wait the typical release cycle for something as important as this....16.1.1 incoming in days.
 
How do you restore from 16.1 to 16.01
You can do a DFU restore to downgrade the OS, but you’ll lose your data.

You won’t be able to restore from a backup without doing some hackery since 6.1 is newer than 16.0.1…unless you still have a backup from 16.0.1 or older to use instead.
 
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After having the most unstable iOS experience of my life with the ENTIRE 16 beta cycle on my 11 Pro Max, even as far as still having several severe system crashes on the RC/final build, I think I am staying away from all iOS betas for the foreseeable future!!

I’m on my 14 Pro Max now (updated and then fully restored in iTunes to 16.0.1 before setting up and restoring my backup) and though it’s only been a day, things seem to be pretty good for the time being.
I think with beta versions, bugs are expected. Because beta means still in development and Apple expect there are bugs so they release beta versions so users or other devs can help identify the bugs faster. This means when you use beta versions, you should find bugs and report to Apple.
 
Maps has been flipping out since the update to 16. Not sure what happened but it continuously tries to redirect me to alternative routes home through these winding neighborhoods. Never did that before and there was absolutely no traffic
 
Individual developers or software shops with any level of maturity are not going to get sidelined by software regressions in a beta.
Are you kidding me? Their testers absolutely will.

“Test this feature” in the release and their testers can’t get GPS to work? Probably a useful warning to them and their users is what I’m saying.

It helped us: we know to discard all 16.1 tester feedback on GPS, and we are a pretty large shop (and I’m the CTO so as much as I want and miss it I don’t read every last thing in release notes for vendor or our own software so this is a great warning on a bug defect).

Not sure what kind of shop you run, it we don’t release until tests at least hit 90% pass against our external test cohort on all supported versions (that’s thousands of people across all versions). So this is incredibly useful to release planning and project management.
 
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So, waiting for 16.2 before a clean install?
Just go for 16.1 Beta 2.
Queue the Apple apologists.
Noting to apologize for. The thing about an early beta is, not every primary function is fully implemented yet. This is very early look at new code. As the beta gets closer to a release candidate, everything will be implemented and there will be fewer things broken. If your app needs GPS functions, test them for the moment on 16.0. You can test the UI features on 16.1. You can also test 16.1 GPS on non 14 Pro models. Don't worry, 16.1 beta 2 will be out in days.
 
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I use all of their product lines and seldom experience issues beyond an occasional minor annoyance.

I always dread making major updates on old devices. Sometimes it renders them useless

iOS 15 on se1 is an abomination for example.

Even then I dread a one year update. Luckily iOS 15.1 was fine from 14.1 on my 12 pro but I was really paranoid battery life and performance would take a swan dive
 
I always dread making major updates on old devices. Sometimes it renders them useless

iOS 15 on se1 is an abomination for example.
That's fair, and an issue I wouldn't really know about. My devices rarely make it to be more than a few years old (while they're still in my possession). I do hear that complaint a lot, though.
 
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Dont know why people want beta versions to be bug free. Its called beta because people expect it still has bugs =))
Right, I don’t get the fascination with people using betas on their primary devices. Personally, I’d rather use a more stable OS from September to September…rather than potentially buggy betas from June to June. I’m still using the OS for a year just like the beta users, but just delayed and with a better experience.
 
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