Was going to buy IPP 12.9 but... MacBook instead

Fozziebear40

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I was going to buy an iPad Pro 12.9" but at £799 + £79 + £65 + £145 including a keyboard and accessories, what the heck, I can buy a full blown MacBook Air or Refurb Pro for that! Discuss :)
 

frank33v

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I was thinking the same thing. I can actually buy a new MacBook from Bestbuy for less ($999) and have a full blown OS X laptop. 8mb ram vs 4mb, 256gb storage vs 32gb. Resolution is greater and screen is larger on IPP though and no touchscreen/tablet mode for the MacBook. I thought the MacBooks speakers were a little louder also.
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Goodluck buying a product that is getting an update soon.
You could say that about any Apple product these days.
 

kultschar

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Go on fleabay, prices dropping quickly.

I have bagged a 12.9" 128GB with smart keyboard for $660 shipped. Will confirm if legit on arrival but think def cheap on eBay as people unloading them already
 

rowspaxe

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Go on fleabay, prices dropping quickly.

I have bagged a 12.9" 128GB with smart keyboard for $660 shipped. Will confirm if legit on arrival but think def cheap on eBay as people unloading them already
I like what your doing here--could this be the first of many "I replaced my ipad with a laptop" theads?
 

David58117

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I thought this too, gave my iPad to my wife, and bought a 12" MacBook on sale.

But I missed the tablet form factor, and now have both.
 
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richpjr

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I gotta say, I am struggling with this decision myself. On one hand, the 12.9 iPad would be very useful (fast, great screen, lots of apps), but there are still too many things it can't do yet or missing that are important to me (Xcode/lack of a mouse/no filesystem) that it has made me hesitate. That and the price with all the accessories really is the price of a laptop.
 

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I was going to buy an iPad Pro 12.9" but at £799 + £79 + £65 + £145 including a keyboard and accessories, what the heck, I can buy a full blown MacBook Air or Refurb Pro for that! Discuss :)
Same here I need a Middle ground I need 3 maybe 4 devices maybe 5

#1. New MacBook Pro 2016 Not released yet DDR4 RAM new designed body etc. Need MacOS X
#2. My phone Samsung Note 5 until the iPhone Pro is released.
#3. Desktop Gaming PC building my own. For VR.
#4. IPad Pro 9.7 does everything goes most places
#5. New OLED ALIENWARE OR LENOVO Laptop can't decide but OLED Displays are the future.

Might not get #1. Or #5. Will wait and see.
 

Kal-037

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I was thinking the same thing. I can actually buy a new MacBook from Bestbuy for less ($999) and have a full blown OS X laptop. 8mb ram vs 4mb, 256gb storage vs 32gb. Resolution is greater and screen is larger on IPP though and no touchscreen/tablet mode for the MacBook. I thought the MacBooks speakers were a little louder also.
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You could say that about any Apple product these days.
The iPP 12.9" is actually more powerful than the rMB, and RAM is less of an issue right now since they both use different Operating Systems. Also the Screen resolution for the iPad is a lot more than the rMB or MBA and also the MBP 13.3." It is only a small amount less screen real estate from the 15" MBP, (but the iPP has more pixels.)
The Apple per inch are...

12" MacBook = 226PPI (Screen Resolution 2304-by-1440) 3.3 million pixels
13" MacBook Air = 128PPI (Screen Resolution 1440 by 900) *Unknown Number of Pixels
13" MacBook Pro = 227PPI (Screen Resolution 2560x1600) 4 million Pixels
15" MacBook Pro = 220PPI (Screen Resolution 2880x1800) 5.1 million pixels
12.9" iPad Pro = 264PPI (Screen Resolution 2732x2048) 5.6 million Pixels
iMak 5k = 218PPI (Screen Resolution 5120 x 2880) 14.7 million Pixels
iMak 4k = 219PPI (Screen Resolution 4096 x 2304) 9.4 million pixels

Obviously the MacBook Pro 13" and the 15" are more powerful, but the resolution isn't any better, in fact the iPP 12.9" is 4th best Apple display, behind the iMac 5k, iMac 4k, and iPad Pro 9.7" (only slightly below the iPP 9.7" due to True Tone.) The 12.9" is on par in terms of power with the MBA 13" (i5 precessor) but it jumps ahead of the MB 12" (1.1, 1.2, and 1.3Ghz Core M processors... only using turbo speed are the 1.2-1.3Ghz MBs slightly faster than the iPP.)
So while the iPad is not at all a full computer, it's nothing to scoff at, and can easily compare to the MacBooks (except the Core i5 and i7 MBPs)

I like the power it has but man it is odd to say a tablet is more powerful than many Full OSX MacBooks. lol
;):):apple:

http://www.redmondpie.com/ipad-pro-vs-2015-macbook-performance-benchmarks-comparison/










Kal.
 

h00ligan

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Go on fleabay, prices dropping quickly.

I have bagged a 12.9" 128GB with smart keyboard for $660 shipped. Will confirm if legit on arrival but think def cheap on eBay as people unloading them already
i exchanged for the 13" tonight. if thats a legit orice and more are available ill be returning and buying used. THATS INCREDIBLY CHEAP

SENDING A DM -SORRY KAPS KEYBOARD JUST WENT WEIRD
 

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I've had the same thoughts as the OP but when I stop to think about it I don't use the laptop I already have. I'm looking for a tablet that can operate as a laptop. Yes, they're expensive and that's coming from someone that's not overly frugal. However, they have powerful hardware, great screens, portability coupled with great interaction forms (touch, pencil, keyboard).
 

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I bought a 13 inch, 2014 Retina Pro last March, got a great price on it & it was a huge upgrade from my 2011 MacBook Air. Problem is I use my tablet a lot so I chose to just get a 64gb open box iPad Air 2.

Both devices serve different purposes, in order to save money I simply choose slightly older models. I love having a MacBook with 8gb of ram and a 256gb SSD, love having 64gb of storage as opposed to 32gb on my iPad.

Having both has it's advantages!
 

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This is a simple answer. If you have any type of home computer get the iPad pro, if you can do with he minimum storage (32gb) then get that. I am a high storage user on my phone and got the 128gb on my iPad pro and am pretty sure i easily could have done with 32gb since my games aren't really on my iPad like my phone. Next point is the pencil. Get, try it, decide if you want it. For me, right now in my graduate program that lacks a lot of math, I didn't need the pencil as I can type faster on the amazing apple kb. So if you didn't need pencil or the storage you can make much cheaper than your estimate.

Most importantly for my decision to trade in my old macbook air for the ipp was simply that I would use the ipp more and it has already proven true. I can't take my iMac or even the macbook air to bed with me and comfortably watch netflix or whatever. That simple point pays for itself because it allows me to use the iPad for something everyday. As far as using it as a computing device, not just consumption, I have not hit one scenario in my MBA that the iPad couldn't handle (some were even handled easier than on a macbook). Just my $0.02
 
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Wando64

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I was going to buy an iPad Pro 12.9" but at £799 + £79 + £65 + £145 including a keyboard and accessories, what the heck, I can buy a full blown MacBook Air or Refurb Pro for that! Discuss :)
I was going to buy a Specialised Venge Pro 2016 Road Bike, but at £5,000, what the heck, I can buy a full blown second hand car for that!

Horses for courses.
 
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This is a simple answer. If you have any type of home computer get the iPad pro, if you can do with he minimum storage (32gb) then get that. I am a high storage user on my phone and got the 128gb on my iPad pro and am pretty sure i easily could have done with 32gb since my games aren't really on my iPad like my phone. Next point is the pencil. Get, try it, decide if you want it. For me, right now in my graduate program that lacks a lot of math, I didn't need the pencil as I can type faster on the amazing apple kb. So if you didn't need pencil or the storage you can make much cheaper than your estimate.

Most importantly for my decision to trade in my old macbook air for the ipp was simply that I would use the ipp more and it has already proven true. I can't take my iMac or even the macbook air to bed with me and comfortably watch netflix or whatever. That simple point pays for itself because it allows me to use the iPad for something everyday. As far as using it as a computing device, not just consumption, I have not hit one scenario in my MBA that the iPad couldn't handle (some were even handled easier than on a macbook). Just my $0.02

I use my 13 rmbp in bed every night to watch movies, how could you not comfortably use your MacBook Air in bed?

Seriously just curious, I've got a iPad Pro 12.9 being delivered tomorrow and I thinking there is no way it can be as comfortable as my mbp.

It sits on my lap/legs or beside me in bed versus me going to have to hold the iPad.

But I'm still willing to give the iPad a chance with it.
 
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sracer

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This is a simple answer. If you have any type of home computer get the iPad pro, if you can do with he minimum storage (32gb) then get that. I am a high storage user on my phone and got the 128gb on my iPad pro and am pretty sure i easily could have done with 32gb since my games aren't really on my iPad like my phone. Next point is the pencil. Get, try it, decide if you want it. For me, right now in my graduate program that lacks a lot of math, I didn't need the pencil as I can type faster on the amazing apple kb. So if you didn't need pencil or the storage you can make much cheaper than your estimate.
I generally agree (except for choosing the 32GB over the 128GB). my 12.9 Pro is replacing both my Air 2 and 11" MBA as my on-the-go devices with my iMac being stationary in my home office.


Most importantly for my decision to trade in my old macbook air for the ipp was simply that I would use the ipp more and it has already proven true. I can't take my iMac or even the macbook air to bed with me and comfortably watch netflix or whatever. That simple point pays for itself because it allows me to use the iPad for something everyday. As far as using it as a computing device, not just consumption, I have not hit one scenario in my MBA that the iPad couldn't handle (some were even handled easier than on a macbook). Just my $0.02
Yep. I really appreciate the flexibility of using the iPP to do "notebook-y" things, snap off the ASK and use it to do "tablet-y" things. I think that my setup will be complete once I get an X1 mouse for the iPP so that I can remote desktop into my iMac (for those times that I need to do something on OSX). But I'm holding off to see what Apple announces this year at WWDC. ;)
 

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The iPP 12.9" is actually more powerful than the rMB, and RAM is less of an issue right now since they both use different Operating Systems. Also the Screen resolution for the iPad is a lot more than the rMB or MBA and also the MBP 13.3." It is only a small amount less screen real estate from the 15" MBP, (but the iPP has more pixels.)
The Apple per inch are...

12" MacBook = 226PPI (Screen Resolution 2304-by-1440) 3.3 million pixels
13" MacBook Air = 128PPI (Screen Resolution 1440 by 900) *Unknown Number of Pixels
13" MacBook Pro = 227PPI (Screen Resolution 2560x1600) 4 million Pixels
15" MacBook Pro = 220PPI (Screen Resolution 2880x1800) 5.1 million pixels
12.9" iPad Pro = 264PPI (Screen Resolution 2732x2048) 5.6 million Pixels
iMak 5k = 218PPI (Screen Resolution 5120 x 2880) 14.7 million Pixels
iMak 4k = 219PPI (Screen Resolution 4096 x 2304) 9.4 million pixels

Obviously the MacBook Pro 13" and the 15" are more powerful, but the resolution isn't any better, in fact the iPP 12.9" is 4th best Apple display, behind the iMac 5k, iMac 4k, and iPad Pro 9.7" (only slightly below the iPP 9.7" due to True Tone.) The 12.9" is on par in terms of power with the MBA 13" (i5 precessor) but it jumps ahead of the MB 12" (1.1, 1.2, and 1.3Ghz Core M processors... only using turbo speed are the 1.2-1.3Ghz MBs slightly faster than the iPP.)
So while the iPad is not at all a full computer, it's nothing to scoff at, and can easily compare to the MacBooks (except the Core i5 and i7 MBPs)

I like the power it has but man it is odd to say a tablet is more powerful than many Full OSX MacBooks. lol
;):):apple:

http://www.redmondpie.com/ipad-pro-vs-2015-macbook-performance-benchmarks-comparison/










Kal.
Umm don't you think it's troubling that only geek bench shows the supposed superiority of A9x vs core M? almost every other benchmark the A9x gets spanked. Yes, it's the most powerful ARM based chip out there...but let's not get delusional and believe it beats or is on par with the newer i5 CPUs. I have both the ipp 12.9 and the rMB in my household and the rMB is by far the more versatile machine as I don't draw and have a use for the pencil..
 

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oftheheavens

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I use my 13 rmbp in bed every night to watch movies, how could you not comfortably use your MacBook Air in bed?

Seriously just curious, I've got a iPad Pro 12.9 being delivered tomorrow and I thinking there is no way it can be as comfortable as my mbp.

It sits on my lap/legs or beside me in bed versus me going to have to hold the iPad.

But I'm still willing to give the iPad a chance with it.
I was always worried about falling asleep and it falling off the bed and breaking the hinge or whatever. Plus it required me to have at least the keyboard amount of space between me and anything/anyone and you can't pull the blankets up very well with a laptop. The iPad though i just bunch up the blankets near my head and prop it up. It can be done i just didn't care for it.
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I generally agree (except for choosing the 32GB over the 128GB). my 12.9 Pro is replacing both my Air 2 and 11" MBA as my on-the-go devices with my iMac being stationary in my home office.



Yep. I really appreciate the flexibility of using the iPP to do "notebook-y" things, snap off the ASK and use it to do "tablet-y" things. I think that my setup will be complete once I get an X1 mouse for the iPP so that I can remote desktop into my iMac (for those times that I need to do something on OSX). But I'm holding off to see what Apple announces this year at WWDC. ;)
I will always buy the bigger option so that I never struggle for space, but 32g is completely doable if you have a computer at home and use any of the iCloud services. I suppose if you do graphic intensive stuff and need all the movies or photos on the iPad, or got the iPad for lots of games then 32 would not work at all.
 

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It's all about personal perspective.

For me, I have a Retina MacBook Pro from 3 years ago (3...4... Not sure...). It's still a powerhouse multimedia machine when I need/want it (with the exception of being able to play Fallout 4...), so I would be hard pressed to replace it. My techno lust has been ignighted every time I walk into an Apple Store and see the new MacBook, but I have a MacBook and though it's ultra portable, most of what I do on the go is done on the iPad.

The iPad Pro, on the other hand, is the vast majority of my non-work computer usage (and even a good percentage of my work computer usage), so I have good reason to want to keep my iPad current. The more I rely on my iPad, the less I rely on my MacBook. Thus, for me, given the value I put on the iPad, it's easy for me to spend the money on the iPad and harder for me to spend the money on a new MacBook.
 

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I would certainly be going the same direction too. I use my laptop on my "lap" most of the time - be it on a train, airplane or on the sofa, you just cant do that with an iPad and the keyboard options are poor. Plus you get all the full apps and a file system and a device with ports to plug things into...

A9X is fast, but no where near the level of the intel based devices.
Benchmarks can be misleading.
 
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