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iPhone XR Was it a bad idea to get a iPhone XR?
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I love my recently upgraded Xr from my depleted battery 6s. Going from your phone dying in a half a day to two 2+ days is life changing. I don't see myself upgrading for at least 3 to 4 years.
Looking at the deals carriers are offering on the XR this Christmas I’d say no it’s not a bad time to get an XR. They appeal to be insanely popular right now and will be a top phone for a few years to come.
Wrong
the XR is still in production and sold on Apples website and other retailers, the XS is discontinued and replaced by the Pro Models
@siri_3005 wasn’t ‘wrong’. You didn’t understand their post. They were saying discontinued as in “Discontinuation of iOS support for the XR”, not “Discontinuing the actual XR”. The OP owns the XR, it’s literally written in their first Sentence in the opening post.
My main concern would be the ram, it could be killed off in a similar fashion to the iPhone 6, it’s probably not a device that gets the bonus year.
That said, it’s only a concern if you are planning on using it for over half a decade. For that time period no doubt the performance will still be amazing, it’s a brilliant device that is perfect for the majority of people.
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He’s talking about software support.
The XS has the same processor but extra gigabyte of ram meaning it will probably receive at least a single iOS upgrade later.
That said, it’s only a concern if you are planning on using it for over half a decade. For that time period no doubt the performance will still be amazing, it’s a brilliant device that is perfect for the majority of people.
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He’s talking about software support.
The XS has the same processor but extra gigabyte of ram meaning it will probably receive at least a single iOS upgrade later.
he is wrong to a certain extent. No one says “discontinued” if a iDevice no longer supports the latest version, they say that word when a device is no longer for sale and/or Apple stops manufacturing the device (regardless of OS support or not)
regardless There are only 3 examples of Idevices not getting an OS upgrade because of RAM, the original iPad not getting iOS 6, the 3GS/Touch 4G not getting iOS 7 and the 7 other devices with 1GB RAM not getting iOS 13
if you pay retail its not a great deal IMHO.
For people asking about advice on phones I’ve recommended XR if you can score an unlocked deal. You can get great deals in the 400 dollar range for an XR iphone with superior battery life and great camera that’ll last for years. It’s a phone I would give or recommend to my parents.
For people asking about advice on phones I’ve recommended XR if you can score an unlocked deal. You can get great deals in the 400 dollar range for an XR iphone with superior battery life and great camera that’ll last for years. It’s a phone I would give or recommend to my parents.
Your XR will be supported for (at least) the next 3 years. Maybe 4. By then, it will be obsolete anyway.
So if you are satisfied with it, keep it and enjoy it.
I bought one in September for my wife and she is very happy about it.
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Actually the recent drops of A8’s iPhone (while A8’s iPad are still supported) due to the lack of RAM would say otherwise...
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Depends solely on what you do. For the extra 100 dollars the 11 is worth it in my opinion. Here is a list of everything the 11 supersedes the XR in:
An extra hour of battery life
Spatial audio via Dolby Atmos
Dual camera with night mode and ultra wide angle lens with 2X zoom
The front camera is now 12 MP with 4K recording.
4GB of ram
The new Ultra Wideband chip. ( if you keep your phone a few years you’ll be able to hop on the tile craze when it happens attaching tiles to key rings to better find loosing them etc..)
Gigabit class LTE.
WiFi 6- capacity troubles fixed and will be the defacto on most routers.
Next Gen Face ID- 30% faster on paper
A13- obvious jump in performance and after a few years you’ll see it holds up better than the A12.
An extra hour of battery life
Spatial audio via Dolby Atmos
Dual camera with night mode and ultra wide angle lens with 2X zoom
The front camera is now 12 MP with 4K recording.
4GB of ram
The new Ultra Wideband chip. ( if you keep your phone a few years you’ll be able to hop on the tile craze when it happens attaching tiles to key rings to better find loosing them etc..)
Gigabit class LTE.
WiFi 6- capacity troubles fixed and will be the defacto on most routers.
Next Gen Face ID- 30% faster on paper
A13- obvious jump in performance and after a few years you’ll see it holds up better than the A12.
Thats nothing to do with the iPhone 11. that's ios13. Every phone got the 30% increase with the update.
And none of that would make a difference to the OP's life either this year, next year or the one after that. Spec chasing only benefits the tech companies.
Interesting. I’m getting mixed articles. Some saying it’s iOS 13, others saying it’s the hardware. Pretty annoying.
Yes apple didn't make that very clear. Probably on purpose to be honest. But it was announced at WWDC that ios13 would be 30% faster, and I definitely noticed a huge difference on my XR once I updated.
Depends upon what you use your iPhone for.
ALL of the 2019 iPhones have 3.7-3.8 GB of DRAM, which is a full GB of DRAM more than the XR (& X) ... this is a HUGE benefit to some Apps, & irrelevant to many others ... but, always a benefit when multi-tasking.
ALL of the 2019 iPhones "appear" to have a fix for the little-known Perf Controller Hardware Bug, in the A11 & A12 ... this prevents High Perf CPU-based apps from running well on A11 & A12-based iPhones & iPads ... Apple "may" have fixed the problem with newer XR units, via a slightly-updated A12 in those units ... hard to say ... the A10, with its simplified CPU Scheduler (i.e., Perf Controller) never had the problem !
ALL of the 2019 iPhones can be pushed hard, just like the A10-based 7+ !
NONE of the 2017 OR 2018 have that ability, UNLESS Apple fixed the problem in newer XR units !
Apple knew they had a RAM Mgmt problem with the X, AFTER they released it !
They fixed it when they added an extra GB of DRAM into the XS (& XS Max).
Why they chose to go with ONLY 2.8 GB of DRAM in the XR is a BIG mystery !
They knew of the problem ahead of time !
Regardless, they fixed that issue with the 11 ... it got the bump-up to 3.7-3.8 GB of DRAM.
RAM Mgmt is one issue, the Perf Controller Hardware Bug is something else entirely.
Also, the A13 has very sophisticated clock mgmt, which is the main reason the battery life is so much better on the 2019 iPhones !
Apple is using generally the same approach with the external DRAM in "at least" the 2019 iPhones ... don't know about last year's model(s).
Anybody can confirm what I'm stating ... simply requires (low-level) coding & debug skills.
There are EXTREMELY few low-level coders anymore, so much of this Info has been off the radar of most ... but, should NOT have been.
BTW, I discovered the Perf Controller issue with my XR on Oct 27th of 2018, the first day I began testing it ... immediately knew something was wrong ... put the word out to Apple & to the General Public ... I'm sure Apple did something about it, because the problem is now gone in the A13 ... anyway, I've since moved on to an 11 Pro Max, which gets me back to 2016 iPhone 7+ perf, OR slightly better ... let's say 10% higher perf than my 7+, but that's it.
IMO, Apple's VP of Software Dev has done an extremely poor job wrt RAM Mgmt the past few years !
The ONLY way to make up for that is to buy an iPhone OR iPad with LOTS of RAM ... as much RAM as possible !
ALL of the 2019 iPhones have 3.7-3.8 GB of DRAM, which is a full GB of DRAM more than the XR (& X) ... this is a HUGE benefit to some Apps, & irrelevant to many others ... but, always a benefit when multi-tasking.
ALL of the 2019 iPhones "appear" to have a fix for the little-known Perf Controller Hardware Bug, in the A11 & A12 ... this prevents High Perf CPU-based apps from running well on A11 & A12-based iPhones & iPads ... Apple "may" have fixed the problem with newer XR units, via a slightly-updated A12 in those units ... hard to say ... the A10, with its simplified CPU Scheduler (i.e., Perf Controller) never had the problem !
ALL of the 2019 iPhones can be pushed hard, just like the A10-based 7+ !
NONE of the 2017 OR 2018 have that ability, UNLESS Apple fixed the problem in newer XR units !
Apple knew they had a RAM Mgmt problem with the X, AFTER they released it !
They fixed it when they added an extra GB of DRAM into the XS (& XS Max).
Why they chose to go with ONLY 2.8 GB of DRAM in the XR is a BIG mystery !
They knew of the problem ahead of time !
Regardless, they fixed that issue with the 11 ... it got the bump-up to 3.7-3.8 GB of DRAM.
RAM Mgmt is one issue, the Perf Controller Hardware Bug is something else entirely.
Also, the A13 has very sophisticated clock mgmt, which is the main reason the battery life is so much better on the 2019 iPhones !
Apple is using generally the same approach with the external DRAM in "at least" the 2019 iPhones ... don't know about last year's model(s).
Anybody can confirm what I'm stating ... simply requires (low-level) coding & debug skills.
There are EXTREMELY few low-level coders anymore, so much of this Info has been off the radar of most ... but, should NOT have been.
BTW, I discovered the Perf Controller issue with my XR on Oct 27th of 2018, the first day I began testing it ... immediately knew something was wrong ... put the word out to Apple & to the General Public ... I'm sure Apple did something about it, because the problem is now gone in the A13 ... anyway, I've since moved on to an 11 Pro Max, which gets me back to 2016 iPhone 7+ perf, OR slightly better ... let's say 10% higher perf than my 7+, but that's it.
IMO, Apple's VP of Software Dev has done an extremely poor job wrt RAM Mgmt the past few years !
The ONLY way to make up for that is to buy an iPhone OR iPad with LOTS of RAM ... as much RAM as possible !
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Sounds like something that very few people will care about. It's cool that this is your passion, but to say an xs max can't be run "hard" is some scare tactics type stuff. Good info, but the people who will notice this are miniscule.
If it wasn’t for 5G next year... I would be rocking my XS Max for another year or two
Though it’s gonna take 3-5 years for 5G to roll out to existing 4G coverage...🤔
Nevertheless.... you could rock out with an XR for 3 years depending on batter wear
Though it’s gonna take 3-5 years for 5G to roll out to existing 4G coverage...🤔
Nevertheless.... you could rock out with an XR for 3 years depending on batter wear
What? The A12 chip + 3 GB of RAM will be supported for years, it'll possibly get iOS 17 or something like that. I have a 8 Plus which is even older and i don't worry at all.
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I use the 8 Plus. Bezels don't bother me. Xr / 11 is still all-screen, what's the issue?
Because they have plenty of better ways to spend the minimum $300 price difference to the 11 Pro.
Most people don’t notice them or care most likely. I wouldn’t I know that.
The bezels on the Xr and 11 are really not as bad as people make them out to be.