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I remember the days when Apple used to make big announcements at Macworld Expo and NAB. They were first in the market with many of the new technologies; firewire, DVD-RAM and dual processors for the masses, just to name a few. They used to have a huge presence at NAB with a gigantic booth, a large stage and racks of Mac Servers and extensive line of professional products. Those days are gone. Thunderbolt 3 has been supported on HP and Dell laptops for a while but we are still waiting for it on the Mac. You can order a HP Z workstation with 22 Core Xeon processors and multiple 12GB Nvidia cards. That’s what I call a real professional workstation.

"feeling nostalgic :("
 
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It's a great moment in time but you don't get those many times if even once in your life, even Jobs makes this point at the start. C'mon!

However I do enjoy watching it, as I never saw it until years later but now market Apple blasted into space is mature and unless they're rolling out an iCar you won't get this too often. Something that equally disrupts the old and creates the new. Once Apple got in first it didn't mean they would stay on top forever but they got the benefit monetary advantage of getting there first and fast in a way people loved. Everyone else followed. They are still follwoing in many respects. No can design a laptop without it looking very like any of the styles of Apple machines. Sometimes it hard to tell the difference on first glance and I'm sure other brands are trying to cash in on that confusion.

Apple took computing beyond the geeks and nerds and brought it right into the family and home. That's a big deal.

Not even close! Keynotes used to be a thrill!!!!
 
-Delete Stock apps (not just disable or hide)
Actually, it looks like that's exactly what it is, disable and hide.

I'm OK with that, it's just one more folder that can go away. But until it really deletes them and allows me to replace them with a 3rd party app, it's pretty useless.
[doublepost=1465932255][/doublepost]I can't help but have flashback to another company that single handedly created a new type of mobile phone market. That became leader in the field. That everyone had to have. That had so much cash in hand it could not possibly fail. Then they started losing market share, yet the faithful kept saying, it's not about market share, it's about making money. They rename the OS, they renamed themselves, they even introduced stickers for their proprietary messaging platform.

And where are they now?
 
Welcome back Mac OS Jr. (macOS)...You might not be a super hero like your dad OS X but you have its DNA.
 
This video leaves out too many parts of the keynote. It's missing the part about the new Macbook Pro, the new Mac Pro, the new Mac Mini, the new Thunderbolt Display, etc.

Yeah!
These four HARDWARE announcements somehow got skipped over at the SOFTWARE conference!!
What gives???????!
I'm going to go post snarky & pointless remarks derailing the conversation people are having about, you know, the actual software announcements.
 
I hope they allow the iphone to be an identifier for the quick macbook/pro login not just the watch... For those of us that think the watch is a waste of time/money,
But then it would be too easy to grab someone's iPhone and unlock his computer along the way; it relies on the watch because it uses biometric info to certify it's "you".
 
BUT...with all of that said, I'll stick with Apple - there is no way I would go back to the slop that is Windows. You couldn't pay me to work with such an unstable, unsafe system again.

Yeah, sure. How many decades ago was the last time that you've used Windows? I have two company notebooks with similar technical specs, a 13" Retina MacBook Pro with El Capitan and a Dell XPS 13 with Windows 10.

The Mac definitely performs slower and generally more unreliable than the Dell. Apparently, the Mac was a "Monday" machine - its mainboard has been replaced twice already by Apple and I've learned from the shop that there was a general recall here in Europe for all of those MacBook models. But even after the last official repair and I don't know how many OS X re-installations later, El Capitan itself remains a slow and buggy mess with a lot of weird behaviors, annoying glitches and malfunctions -- too many to list them here, but let's just say that Apple's USB stack and Thunderbolt/Displayport-Adapters keep things quite "interesting".

The general state of software - and by that I mean the stock software and third party software - in Apple's ecosystem is a rather sad story: Everything just feels slower, buggier and less reliable and stable than the siblings on Windows and Linux. Macs are just plain and simple horrible tools when you work in a data center environment. (Just compare simple vCenter operation on OS X and Windows. I can stop right there and rest my case.) We support Mac users, so I need a Mac for testing purposes, but as a work horse, the Dell and Windows 10 mop the floor with OS X and the MacBook.

I run an IT department at a satellite communication teleport and have been in the IT business full time for over 25 years now. I'm platform agnostic and have been around the block several times. Where, please, is a proper Windows 10 or Windows Server 2012 R2 installation "unsafe"? And, yes, that question also extends to current Linux server distributions, not just Apple's consumer platform OS X. Microsoft have significantly stepped up their game in the last ten to fifteen years and in my daily work with a highly heterogeneous environment, I see absolutely no evidence that OS X or Linux systems are safer or more reliable than Windows systems. Frankly speaking, on the desktop I rather see more evidence that suggest that OS X and Linux are poor choices as desktop platforms for many reasons.
 
I haven't been following Apple long enough to know this - but is it to be expected that the release new hardware at WWDC, as opposed to the September event? Thought the Developer Conference was supposed to be focused on software etc., not hardware?

Sincere question, btw.
It is mainly software. However, there are expectation to have hardware to let the software to run on.
 
Considering that this is the "Apple Worldwide Developers Conference"... of course nothing was going to excite you. Looks like Apple have gone back to concentrating what that event was originally purposed for and saving the hardware updates for the latter part of this year.

It's a developer event. Not a media event. You're just hurt because you're impatient. Personally, I'm glad they're not forgetting what they're good at... making ace software. Hardware is secondary now until they release something big hardware wise when the cost of the technology comes down.

"Not a media event" LOLOL!
 
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Apple does some innovative stuff, but in too many ways they are just flagrently following the market on clever features in other apps and operating systems. The ratio of clever/copy is getting worrisome. My next computer will be a PC (*sad face*) if I can transition my iPhoto database.
 
A new file system was announced and it looks awesome.


Very ho-hum!

All those changes to Messages are merely glitz.

The new features in Sierra don’t really warrant a new version number. This all could have been included in macOS 10.11.6 (for that matter with the change to “macOS” they should have dropped the “10.” prefix in the version number).

We need a modern file system, not UI bloatware!
 
Apple does some innovative stuff, but in too many ways they are just flagrently following the market on clever features in other apps and operating systems. The ratio of clever/copy is getting worrisome. My next computer will be a PC (*sad face*) if I can transition my iPhoto database.
Everyone does this a lot of the time. What is new or surprising about any of that?
 
Actually, it looks like that's exactly what it is, disable and hide.

I'm OK with that, it's just one more folder that can go away. But until it really deletes them and allows me to replace them with a 3rd party app, it's pretty useless.
[doublepost=1465932255][/doublepost]I can't help but have flashback to another company that single handedly created a new type of mobile phone market. That became leader in the field. That everyone had to have. That had so much cash in hand it could not possibly fail. Then they started losing market share, yet the faithful kept saying, it's not about market share, it's about making money. They rename the OS, they renamed themselves, they even introduced stickers for their proprietary messaging platform.

And where are they now?
Where is who? Apple?
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Why waste 7 minutes when the keynote can be summed up with one picture?

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That's the summary, I want the detail.
 
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Where is who? Apple?

Blackberry.

While not there yet, let's not forget that they are far behind Android in market share. So far, it's still worth it for developers to write for both OS. But at what % of market share is the developing and supporting not worth it anymore?
 
Excited for iOS 10 since it's closer to Android from years ago. Equally excited for Android N which looks to be a universal OS not only for mobile and TV but also to displace user desktop OS like Linux, Windows, macOS, etc.
 
Blackberry.

While not there yet, let's not forget that they are far behind Android in market share. So far, it's still worth it for developers to write for both OS. But at what % of market share is the developing and supporting not worth it anymore?
Nice parable. Similar to the three bears and goldilocks except it won't end like that.
 
But then it would be too easy to grab someone's iPhone and unlock his computer along the way; it relies on the watch because it uses biometric info to certify it's "you".


Yeah but I never wear watches... it feels like a one sided hand cuff... so then what is a solution for the rest of us who A.) don't believe in the watch, and B.) the touch ID on the phone should allow you to unlock the laptop as most likely you'll have the phone near your laptop...
 
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