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It feels like there wasn't all that much for developers to be honest; I get that devs don't pay all that money just to attend the keynote, WWDC is a conference with workshops and technical presentations, but the emphasis put on that keynote for trivial improvements is underwhelming.
 
On the flip side of that, most of the top rated commented (the so-called "haters") are people who really like Apple products, or did like Apple products, and they see all the focus of Apple on trivial things that are no longer making the products better, but actually worse, and for all the wrong reasons.

Look, I get it when it's the same few folks in a forum complaining about the same things over and over, month after month. I find that annoying as well. And I don't know the posting history of everyone here. But sometimes, forums are like the proverbial canary in the coal mine.

That's spot on. It has been incredible to watch as comments went from ALL positive around 2010 to ALL negative now. But it's Apple's fault, not ours. We just want excellent computers. Instead we're offered mediocre garbage designed for the masses (in China and elsewhere). Emoji vs Mac Pros, and emojis have won. I wonder why? Oh - it's because money men have taken over Apple and are bleeding it out for all it's worth. Apple Computer no longer exists - it has been absorbed into the Borg.

Woz must know this - but won't say it because he still gets fat paychecks from Apple.

It's a crying shame!!
 
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If your age ends in the word "teen", then it's perfectly acceptable for you to get excited about the "good stuff".
For the rest of us "old and jaded" people, the posts here pretty much spell it out.
Because nothing else was announced? Or because only a specific demographic uses something?
 
as Federighi stated "Children of tomorrow will have no understanding of the English Language"
That actually scares me. Really a legit worry. I'm not the brightest spark on the planet but I'm thankful that basic technology used to actually make your brain work.

I know, Mr Party pooper.. But Apple should not be in the business of dumbing down an entire generation.

Unless he meant everyone will be talking Mandarin o_O
 
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That's what I was thinking! Why the **** did they pay so much and go to SF just for that *****??? To dance to Rappers' Delight?
It feels like there wasn't all that much for developers to be honest; I get that devs don't pay all that money just to attend the keynote, WWDC is a conference with workshops and technical presentations, but the emphasis put on that keynote for trivial improvements is underwhelming.
The rest of the week is there for actual developers filled with plenty of stuff.
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THIS! is a keynote! THIS is what I want to keep seeing. I am so in need of a good keynote that I am watching this one again :S
Some are more exciting than others. Just like it is with pretty much everything in life, where most things are actually on the less exciting side.
 
We should try a 1 minute summary, as there wasn't much in this announcement. Mostly Tim in denial that Apple isn't (edit) in trouble and isn't playing catch up!

According to me iOS 9 had very little as a major update and last i checked its installed in 84% of the ios devices.

Apple sold 51million iPhone. iPhone are premium devices and 51million is huge number.
I'm not going over iTunes sales, payment percentage etc.

Who's in denial.
 
It feels like there wasn't all that much for developers to be honest; I get that devs don't pay all that money just to attend the keynote, WWDC is a conference with workshops and technical presentations, but the emphasis put on that keynote for trivial improvements is underwhelming.

Trivial underwhelming improvements?

You mean like Siri now being able to handle complex natural language queries with followup questions, and with Apple opening up Siri to developers with SiriKit so that technology can be embedded in developer's apps?

Or maybe announcing WatchOS 3.0, which is a substantial improvement with not only a brand new UI, but being able to launch apps significantly faster? Do you think that would interest developers?

Or how about Apple's new Home app that provides an all inclusive front end for HomeKit so users can finally have a single app that securely controls their home automation in a robust manner? And, which now supports many new device categories.

Or maybe the new Maps app, substantially rewritten and which now permits developer access?

Or, how about a new clipboard that works across all Apple devices globally? Interesting to developers?
 
Love how the usual defenders say of course no hardware announcements it was wwdc. Either short memories or haven't been in the Apple ecosystem for long.

Ignoring hardware it was overall very poor. The lowlight was the song and dance they made over messages. The saddest parts, so much to choose from, larger applause for the MacOS name change than any new features, keep asking the audience to clap, text to emoji. Biggest laugh Cook talking about coding, how many think he even knows what Swift is?

There was never any legit hint there was going to be new hardware announced. Even the code-ish style invitation and hints made it clear it was going to focus on OSes.

But to your point Apple hasn't announced new hardware at WWDC for the past two years. Lot's of possible reasons for that. Apple history is just that, it's not a locked-in predictor of how Apple must behave.

For the record, I've owned Apple products since 1988, used them since about 1983, been following it since about 1990. I attended 3 MW Bostons and 2 MW NYs. Stockholder since 2001. So I don't have a short memory and also have been in Apple's ecosystem since before the term existed.

I would also disagree that yesterday's announcements were "poor." For an annual upgrade I think Apple is making some great tweaks, esp. to iOS and ATV. MacOS looks to be mostly a maintenance update, which I'm OK with too as I'm a bigger fan of stability than useless bloat. I was disappointed there were not more and better faces is WatchOS, but just because they were not announced today doesn't mean Apple will not announce downloadable faces for sale this fall.
 
Trivial underwhelming improvements?

You mean like Siri now being able to handle complex natural language queries with followup questions, and with Apple opening up Siri to developers with SiriKit so that technology can be embedded in developer's apps?

Or maybe announcing WatchOS 3.0, which is a substantial improvement with not only a brand new UI, but being able to launch apps significantly faster? Do you think that would interest developers?

Or how about Apple's new Home app that provides an all inclusive front end for HomeKit so users can finally have a single app that securely controls their home automation in a robust manner? And, which now supports many new device categories.

Or maybe the new Maps app, substantially rewritten and which now permits developer access?
But they talked about emojis so clearly that's the only thing and the rest of that stuff didn't happen. ;)
 
Trivial underwhelming improvements?

You mean like Siri now being able to handle complex natural language queries with followup questions, and with Apple opening up Siri to developers with SiriKit so that technology can be embedded in developer's apps?

Or maybe announcing WatchOS 3.0, which is a substantial improvement with not only a brand new UI, but being able to launch apps significantly faster? Do you think that would interest developers?

Or how about Apple's new Home app that provides an all inclusive front end for HomeKit so users can finally have a single app that securely controls their home automation in a robust manner? And, which now supports many new device categories.

Or maybe the new Maps app, substantially rewritten and which now permits developer access?
You essentially listed the two-three things I can think of that are major deals for developers, and that didn't take two hours..

The Siri improvements to handle natural language (a much needed improvement given how it fell behind) concerns the cloud service, the SiriKit framework however is much needed.

watchOS 3 brings background apps and better performance: awesome!

The HomeKit framework already exists, Apple just added a hub app on top.
 
The problem is not that the announcements are not great because many of them were great. The problem is that last year you could really see Apple making a push in productivity. This year a lot of the announcements were for leisure time. Don't get me wrong, I love leisure time. However, I am not going to drop thousands on a Mac Pro that was last updated and introduced at, oh wait for it, WWDC 2013. It is 2016, either drop the price or make it worth the money once again. Same for the MacBook Pro. Those saying that the blame is with Intel, no it is not. Last year at this time it was 'I will wait for Skylake', well Skylake HAS been released and it is still 'I will wait for Skylake' for Apple fans. This is not okay given the prices they are charging for Macs. Even if they did not release new hardware yesterday, it would have been great to see a timeline only because much of the line is out of date.
 
It was cringeworthy. Seeing WatchOS 3...I got a little excited, thinking "YES..new watch faces!" The first shown was Minnie, after that I just felt this is going to go nowhere fast. The other face "Numerals" ( I think its called) Taking the "Simple" watch face and adding the hour marker...whoopie-do. Ok, apps will load immediately, thats nice. Scribble, not bad....just see how that works when it's finally released.

The "Demos" went on way WAY too long, especially iMessage. I didn't mind the littler personal touches with replying in 'hand/finger writing" - but then came the tackiness of explosive fireworks in the background, the big animated text bubbles, the emojis, stickers..more Disney characters. Just a junky cluttered mess that is geared towards 10, 11 year old kids (not my 40something self) It reminded me a little like a 2001 version of Yahoo messenger Lot of features that I suspect will drain battery life significantly.

Then the "one more thing" moment came and my ears perked...what was it...
"We made a video for iOS10, and here it is" (smh)
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Few things I saw that seemed cool, but nothing what so ever that blew me away.

I lost track, but it got to the point when you could see the audience faces seem unimpressed, even those on stage were almost begging for applause.

...SO, now we wait until Sept. Of course the new iPhone. New hardware, maybe the Watch 2??

We'll see, but all the rumors Ive seen the past 6+ months, I'm not expecting much. I pretty much already made my decision to wait until Sept 2017 for the 10th Anniversary iPhone 8

BUT...with all of that said, I'll stick with Apple - there is no way I would go back to the slop that is Windows. You couldn't pay me to work with such an unstable, unsafe system again.
 
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I read the comments and wonder what the hell has happened to the crowd here. Seems like if they don't announce what you're looking for it's just Ho-hum or boring.

On my end, I saw lots of cool new features. Focus on continuity is very smart of Apple... it's one area they can set themselves apart from the ransom note approach on Windows and Android. I saw lots of improvement in accessibility to common features and it's totally cool that Apple is opening up just about everything to developers now and doing it in a way that does not compromise on security which is becoming more and more important as time goes on.

Did I want to see new MacBook Pro's? Of course I did! But that disappointment doesn't cloud what I did see yesterday... a very mature eco-system that's getting a major upgrade across the board.
 
Didn't read all the pages because didn't want them to color my impression of the keynote so here goes.
To keep it short and sweet, I am not the target demographic anymore, I am retired and in the 65+ age group. While I am impressed with all Apple says their OS's will do, I find myself only interested in <5% of what was announced. While I know WWDC is intended for software, I really wish they had announced new laptops. Especially since my MBP 2009 will not support macOS Sierra.

That about covers the two hours in my opinion.
 
THIS! is a keynote! THIS is what I want to keep seeing. I am so in need of a good keynote that I am watching this one again :S

It's a great moment in time but you don't get those many times if even once in your life, even Jobs makes this point at the start. C'mon!

However I do enjoy watching it, as I never saw it until years later but now market Apple blasted into space is mature and unless they're rolling out an iCar you won't get this too often. Something that equally disrupts the old and creates the new. Once Apple got in first it didn't mean they would stay on top forever but they got the benefit monetary advantage of getting there first and fast in a way people loved. Everyone else followed. They are still follwoing in many respects. No can design a laptop without it looking very like any of the styles of Apple machines. Sometimes it hard to tell the difference on first glance and I'm sure other brands are trying to cash in on that confusion.

Apple took computing beyond the geeks and nerds and brought it right into the family and home. That's a big deal.
 
The rest of the week is there for actual developers filled with plenty of stuff.
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Some are more exciting than others. Just like it is with pretty much everything in life, where most things are actually on the less exciting side.

Except that Apple is directly in charge of how exciting it can be. Absurd animations in Messages, a new name convention, etc is boring.

The only thing that piqued my interest was copy/paste continuity with phone and mac (for as long as macs stick around /halfsarc)
 
Except that Apple is directly in charge of how exciting it can be. Absurd animations in Messages, a new name convention, etc is boring.

The only thing that piqued my interest was copy/paste continuity with phone and mac (for as long as macs stick around /halfsarc)
As you are in charge of your expectations. Some people set them high and perhaps unrealistic compared to others. And as everyone has different preferences as well. What might not interest you in the least might very well be quite interesting to someone else.
 
I hope they allow the iphone to be an identifier for the quick macbook/pro login not just the watch... For those of us that think the watch is a waste of time/money,
 
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