Watchos 5 apple watch series 0 predictions

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by Jordan246, Jan 29, 2018.

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Will the apple watch series 0 be able to run watchos 5

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Jordan246 macrumors regular

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    Hi i know it’s early to predict but do you guys think that the series 0 Apple Watch with get watchos 5. Please write back with your predictions. Thanks
     
  2. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    Perhaps it will, but it will likely be the last WatchOS.
     
  3. tkukoc macrumors 65816

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    If it includes sleep awareness settings, I'd say it won't support S0 simply because the battery really can't handle an all night wearing into the next day scenario. But who knows at this point, there's been zero rumors about OS5.. which stinks because Apple Watch is my favorite Apple device these days.
     
  4. Speechless macrumors 6502a

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    what are your most used apps?
     
  5. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    It's Difficult to say if the first generation Apple Watch will be supported or not, because we don't have a metric being this is the first watch. However, I don't believe it will be. It still performs the same core functionality, but it's processor lags behind with mosts tasks.
     
  6. canyonblue737 macrumors 65816

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    I am going to guess no, if simply to help push people to a faster processor AW. If it does I believe it will only contain the core UI of watchOS 5 and not any of the new software features watchOS 5 may bring, much like S0 doesn't support many of the heart rate functions of watchOS 4.
     
  7. Mad Mac Maniac macrumors 601

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    I voted no, but I think this is equally likely. Being able to install watchOS 5 simply to ensure compatibility/security, but with very limited (if any) customer-facing "features".
     
  8. macdragonfl macrumors 6502a

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    The writting is on the wall, I just ordered a series 3 LTE. Looking forward to the speed increase.
     
  9. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5

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    I was shocked it got watchOS 4. I would have bet 3.2.3 would have been it for S0.
     
  10. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    I agree. The first GEN watch is still a perfectly capable device, but the processor takes away from the user experience.
     
  11. Unami macrumors 6502a

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    I‘d guess no. the other three models all got a dual-core processor. I‘m still happy with my series 0, and am glad that it never got water damage although i go swimming with it regularly. I think, when the series 4 comes out, I‘ll have gotten enough usage out of it. Depending on the series 4’s design / new design teething problems, i‘ll maybe even wait for the series 5.

    Maybe the series 0 will even get os 5 to give us a final incentive to buy a faster model, but os4 already did it‘s job of slowing it down and reducing battery running time pretty well.
     
  12. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    "Teething problems" can occur with a brand new product, not necessarily with iteration of an updated or refreshed device. For example, the first generation Apple Watch was a new device in April 2015 that had some early on issues , but those progressively get worked out as the product matures overtime, which doesn't make the Series 4 necessarily a new product that will experience those problems just based on a design change, given the WatchOS continues to refine.
     
  13. Mikael H macrumors 6502a

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    Frankly I hope not, unless Apple magically learn to optimize new OS versions for old hardware. With this in mind, I would gladly see stripped down modern *OS versions for older gear as long as there are no architectural issues with keeping them alive (32 vs 64 bit, etc). Not getting the goodies is a useful alternative to not being able to maintain device snappiness because of the goodies...
     
  14. sean000 macrumors 68000

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    Define "run." :p

    I can still tolerate using my S0, but it's been frustrating on OS4. It's kind of like going back to OS1. It was very fast and reliable on watch OS 2 and 3. I have a feeling that watch OS 5 will be my cue to upgrade, if I don't do it sooner.
     
  15. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    Technically if the first generation Apple Watch is not supported through watchOS 5, then you wouldn't have a choice but to upgrade if you really wanted to.
     
  16. Matz Contributor

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    I’d be surprised if S0 supported WatchOS 5. That said, a S0 could remain functional for quite a while for users that don’t particularly want to have the fastest processor or latest features. By way of comparison, plenty of people use older iPhones that won’t accept the latest iOS version, but still meet their owners’ needs.
     
  17. sean000 macrumors 68000

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    The S0 might be fine for light duty even if it gets stuck on OS4, but it won't be a great experience. If you mainly use it for basic at-a-glance information, notifications, and passive fitness tracking with only the Activity app (many S0 users already complain that the workouts app is too slow) it will probably be tolerable. Where I get frustrated with OS4 on the S0 is whenever I try to interact with an app: Tapping for a more detailed forecast, replying to a text message, scrolling a shopping list, etc. That's when I notice slow response times and occasional looonnnnggg pauses. Because of all that I will personally be upgrading soon to the S3 (probably get around to it this weekend if I don't order one tonight).

    I used to skip every other generation when it came to the iPhone (held onto my iPhone 6 much longer... until the X came out). I skipped the iPhone S-models and upgraded every couple of years. I should have done the same for the Apple Watch and upgraded to the S3 as soon as it came out. A particular model of AW will slow down at the same time (at a certain OS version) regardless of when you buy it. The advantage of sticking to a 2 year, or even one year, cycle is that the old version is still worth something on trade-in or if you want to sell it. Apple says they will still give you $50 for an original AW Sport, but Best Buy recently dropped the trade-in value from $50 down to $11. So I look at it this way: The easiest way to stay reasonably current is to trade in the old model while it still has enough value to give you a decent discount. You will be happier having a watch that can keep up with the latest OS, apps, and features.

    Yes it is a little hard to swallow dropping another $329 to $359 for a new aluminum Apple Watch when your current one still functions and makes it through the day, but the cost of one of these spread over a couple of years comes down to 50 cents a day. The Series 0 had a good run and met my expectation that it would last me a couple of years. Time to move on.
     
  18. Matz Contributor

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    Agreed, which is why I upgraded a few months ago to a GPS only Series 3. My daughter uses my old Series 0, which she’s happy with. For the time being, at least.
     
  19. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    The problem is, is that you have those who are absent minded that accidentally or intentionally update their iOS, not realizing now they're Apple Watch has to be compatible with the current version of iOS, thus resulting in updating the Apple Watch as well. This happens all the time, mainly just because of ignorance.
     
  20. Matz Contributor

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    While I can certainly see this happening, I still think that the AW S0 can remain viable for someone that doesn't mind not having the latest and greatest. They'd just have to be more attentive to the state of the OS on their phone, as you point out.
     
  21. OllyW Moderator

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    So, if I update my iPhone to iOS 12 in September it will stop working with my 1st gen if it doesn't get the WatchOS 5 update?
     
  22. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    The iPhone and Apple Watch must have correlating iOS and WatchOS to communicate. However, your Apple Watch would still have some capabilities if the iPhone was not communicating with it. This article discusses some details more in detail.

    https://www.imore.com/heres-what-apple-watch-can-do-without-iphone?amp
     
  23. Julien macrumors G4

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    Probably not. Apple allows the wOS to be one behind while beta testing (example iOS 11.0 beta and wOS 3.x). It is the other way around (wOS newer that iOS) that CAN'T work.
     
  24. OllyW Moderator

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    I hope that’s right, it would be nice to get a bit more use out of it before it’s scrapped.
     
  25. CmdrLaForge macrumors 601

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    Why would it get scrapped? Mine is almost unusable with watchOS 4 so I hope it won’t get any further updates which render it then completely useless. Even new iOS version need to support the existing watches even on older watchOS versions
    --- Post Merged, Mar 1, 2018 ---
    To be more clear. My use scenario for the watch is only during my time in the gym. I have Beats X and use the watch to listen to music and track my workout. Usually I start the workout tracking and then try to turn on the music. Yesterday it took me almost 5 minutes to get the music started. Very annoying.
     

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