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Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by venividivigor, Sep 21, 2015.
I found out we can only use Apple Music for the new Apple TV. That's bull. ****
I thought Apple Music was a broken service?
It's Apple, what else did expect? The ATV3 is more than 3 years old, that are almost light-years in Apple time.
You don't need the new Apple TV to use Apple Music. It works great on both Macs and iOS devices.
I don't think that's what the OP means but I'm not sure what it is the OP means.
Airplay works just fine.
I use Apple Music to my ATV2 and my father does to his ATV3. All good. Has been all good all summer long.
Navigating Apple Music on the new ATV is a kludge anyways. Airplay it.
The music app in the Apple TV doesn't have support for Apple Music, no beats one, no connect, no playlists and library shared.
You do need the new Apple TV to use "Apple Music", the aTV 3 does not support it. I am assuming, at this point, you will be able to access iTunes music through the aTV3, just as you can now.
Didn't they say at WWDC that Apple Music for Android and Apple TV was coming this fall?
They did. I think what has peoples undies in a bunch is that they didn't indicate you would have to buy a new Apple TV for a minimum of $150 to have that feature (on Apple TV).
I just watched the part of the WWD 2015 where they are talking about which devices and when, and they actually didn't mention apple tv only android coming this fall
I could have swore they mentioned it, but they are pretty crafty in how they say things. Thanks for going back and doing that research.
From the website:
"Your free, three-month trial membership gives you the full Apple Music experience on your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Mac, or PC."
I am not sure how it is implemented on the new AppleTV, but I have tried Rdio, Spotify, and SiriusXM on Roku and they are half baked when compared to using Airplay with an iOS device. The main upside to the new AppleTV is that the Siri functionality should get rid of many of the issues I had with Roku. That being said, the old AppleTVs won't have Siri, so I would probably just use Airplay most of the time even if there was an app.
And further down on the same page you see this:
As a member, you get the entire Apple Music experience on your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Mac, and PC. Apple Music is coming to Apple TV and Android this fall. To start your free, three-month trial:
Beats is currently available on Apple TV
Is this what you are looking for?
The thing about Siri though is that she does a *terrible* job detecting mixed-language commands. So for people like me whose native language is German but who own a ton of non-german music / TV shows / movies, the experience will suck. It's a shame that Apple QC hardly seems to exist beyond the domestic market. And yes, Google Now does this much better.
As I said, it "should get rid of many of the issues I had with Roku". I don't doubt that Siri would have problems with some dialects. The Ozarks are just a short trip out of Memphis and even I have problems understanding what some people are saying - if Google can figure it out then kudos to them!
I bet there will be a software update to tvOS on at least the ATV3 when the new ATV launches. I would expect it to mirror the look and feel of the new tvOS without the new features specific to ATV4 (app store, etc). And I would expect that AppleMusic will be on the AppleTVs. They are continuing to sell the ATV3 and AppleMusic is being pushed by Apple, so there is no reason they wouldn't offer it. They probably just want to save the excitement over the look and feel of the new interface until the new AppleTV launches so that more people rush out for the new one rather than just upgrade the software on their current one. If they give us a chance to get too satisfied with our existing AppleTVs with the upgraded software before the new ones launch, we might not upgrade! At least that's how I see it....Apple is very good at psychology!
You make a lot of sense. I hope you are right.
Apple need to refocus on the core stuff, AW, music and pay are all a flop and waste of time and effort.
I don't think Apple Music will ever be added to ATV3, only to ATV4. But even there it will lack a big feature: multiple user support. If I add my Apple Music account to ATV, I don't want other family members to mess up my profile.
Same for photos by the way.
There should be support to easily switch iCloud accounts, but no way that's ever coming...
I would be surprised if Apple Music isn't added. They want people to subscribe to the service so bad they are putting it on Android. It wouldn't make sense to leave it off of the old Apple TV. There are enough other reasons to upgrade that they don't need this to be an incentive.
There will not be a software update to tvOS on the ATV3 because tvOS does everything through apps and the ATV3 doesn't have built in memory for apps. It also can't play games (outside of Airplaying something from another device), and I highly doubt Apple will either give us a crippled version of tvOS without an app store or access to the app store but without the ability to download anything.
I could see them adding an Apple Music channel on ATV3, but even then if one of the big selling points of Apple Music is Siri integration, they might just make you airplay it.
I really don't expect the ATV3 to get anything more than a channel or two after the new ATV is released, and I suspect Apple will stop selling the ATV3 soon thereafter. There's no point in expending further resources on a device that's so old compared to what they're selling now, and I think they're banking on the new features pushing people to spend the extra $50-$100 over the competition, especially since Apple frequently charges more than their competitors.