Weak Pound and Hiked Prices Make Apple Macs More Expensive for Brits

[ForkHandles]

That doesn't make sense. You can't divorce the two. If the British were unhappy with immigration policy, for example, their government can't do anything about it while also remaining in the EU.

Technically not true. Out of the 320,000 immigrants we had in the year to June 140,000 were EU citizens. The majority were not, we had a choice as to whether or not they could come. Unsuprisingly the government decided if you are coming for work or education then you are more than welcome. Thats a 180,000 who wanted to come to add to our economy that we allowed.

In that sense "Take Back Control" is a scam. We never lost it in the first place, we exercised control throughout. I say 'we' but of course I mean the Home Secretary, Theresa May, a politician of most hypocritical proportions.

 

[AT06]

Technically not true. Out of the 320,000 immigrants we had in the year to June 140,000 were EU citizens. The majority were not, we had a choice as to whether or not they could come. Unsuprisingly the government decided if you are coming for work or education then you are more than welcome. Thats a 180,000 who wanted to come to add to our economy that we allowed.

In that sense "Take Back Control" is a scam. We never lost it in the first place, we exercised control throughout. I say 'we' but of course I mean the Home Secretary, Theresa May, a politician of most hypocritical proportions.

Have to admit, never liked May. If it were up to her she'd have CCTV feeds in every home, and a back door into every piece of electronics and data for everyone in the U.K. However, she was the best of a bad bunch at the time - at least she has some presence about her.

The UK really needs tougher laws, like Australia. Points based system. Foreign students given no access to loans, etc. No benefits given unless having X number of years of tax/NI contributions, benefits only given for family in the U.K.

Wish someone would become PM and run the county with the slogan "Bring back common sense Britain".

 

[ForkHandles]

Have to admit, never liked May. If it were up to her she'd have CCTV feeds in every home, and a back door into every piece of electronics and data for everyone in the U.K. However, she was the best of a bad bunch at the time - at least she has some presence about her.

The UK really needs tougher laws, like Australia. Points based system. Foreign students given no access to loans, etc. No benefits given unless having X number of years of tax/NI contributions, benefits only given for family in the U.K.

Wish someone would become PM and run the county with the slogan "Bring back common sense Britain".

This seems to be the mood of the country however it is not an issue.

Even Ian Duncan Smith who headed up welfare and the Leave campaign said that benefit tourism is not an issue. It's just good old, xenophobic, Farage (I dislike that man intensely) spin.

 

[JonLa]

Non-EU university students have to be pretty rich to afford the fees, and can't have loans, so the chances of them doing a runner to get a low-paid job are pretty slim, and the visa are already pretty rigid.

Everyone on both sides knew that Brexit would mean economic panic - any Brexiteer who denies it is kidding themselves. One side decided that it was worth the price rises, the other didn't.

 

[Macs4u]

This seems to be the mood of the country however it is not an issue.

Even Ian Duncan Smith who headed up welfare and the Leave campaign said that benefit tourism is not an issue. It's just good old, xenophobic, Farage (I dislike that man intensely) spin.

A politician said it's not an issue so its not an issue. Absolute nonsense. Open your eyes and look at the Calais Jungle. Do you think they are trying to get here for the weather?

I wouldn't trust a politician as far as I could spit. The only thing that matters to a politician is their income, their expenses and their sense of entitlement.

 

[twietee]

The only thing that matters to a politician is their income, their expenses and their sense of entitlement.

Some say that's exactly the same that matters to those "concerned citizens".

 

[gnasher729]

I do but that works both ways, how about they reduce the unit cost by £500 and then get more sales as a result?
Also since the Brexit incident, (assuming that’s the real and only reason for the increase), I’ve been shopping a number of times for a number of products of different quantities and from different places.
Not once have I seen a 20% increase in prices. Diesel hasn't suddenly gone from £1.15/L to £1.38/L.

Diesel has indeed been creeping up as the UK£ was creeping down. It didn't jump up by 20% because the largest part of the price is UK tax. Price of Diesel = (Dollar based cost of fuel + UK based fuel tax) + 20% VAT.

Apple prices _jump_ because they don't get adjusted daily; they get adjusted when Apple releases new products.
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It has nothing to do with Brexit, they have used that as nothing more the an excuse because I can't beleieve they need to increase costs by over 30% because of a weak pound which will increase next year most likely..

Apple isn't increasing prices because of Brexit (Brexit doesn't affect them a lot, except they might be re-thinking having major development places in the UK once access to EU talent gets more difficult - and face it, if all non-UK EU citizens left today, there would be no IT left in the UK). Apple is increasing the prices because the pound dropped. And if, as you predict (without any justification) the pound increases next year, then UK prices will go down _next year_. If the pound manages to go below one dollar, you'll have another 20% increase.

 

[smallcoffee]

Technically not true. Out of the 320,000 immigrants we had in the year to June 140,000 were EU citizens. The majority were not, we had a choice as to whether or not they could come. Unsuprisingly the government decided if you are coming for work or education then you are more than welcome. Thats a 180,000 who wanted to come to add to our economy that we allowed.

In that sense "Take Back Control" is a scam. We never lost it in the first place, we exercised control throughout. I say 'we' but of course I mean the Home Secretary, Theresa May, a politician of most hypocritical proportions.

Immigration is but one teeny detail.

 

[MrGimper]

I'm going to wait and see what the refurbs come in at price wise. I bought my 2014 13" in december 2014 as a refurb and paid around £1600 for the 2.8 i5 with 16GB and 1TB flash. I have no need currently to upgrade to a lesser machine in all the areas I am concerned about.
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Immigration is but one teeny detail.

It's actually shocking that all of this still stands despite the obvious lies the leave camapign peddled. The lies plus the obvious overwhelming miseducation of leave supporters ... "I'm voting leave coz I don't like Cameron", "I'm voting leave to kick all the muslims out". As mentioned above, people voted leave because they thought it would stop ALL immigration, when we have already had control of our borders for non-EU immigration and the government, not the EU, have not controlled it. Also people not wanted some "unelected somebody making our rules" when in fact May is exactly that.

It would be ironic if it wasn't so sad.

 

[sim667]

I'm going to wait and see what the refurbs come in at price wise. I bought my 2014 13" in december 2014 as a refurb and paid around £1600 for the 2.8 i5 with 16GB and 1TB flash. I have no need currently to upgrade to a lesser machine in all the areas I am concerned about.
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It's actually shocking that all of this still stands despite the obvious lies the leave camapign peddled. The lies plus the obvious overwhelming miseducation of leave supporters ... "I'm voting leave coz I don't like Cameron", "I'm voting leave to kick all the muslims out". As mentioned above, people voted leave because they thought it would stop ALL immigration, when we have already had control of our borders for non-EU immigration and the government, not the EU, have not controlled it. Also people not wanted some "unelected somebody making our rules" when in fact May is exactly that.

It would be ironic if it wasn't so sad.

You need to be careful with refurbs, I've known someone who bought one, the logic board died 6 months later and they charged him £800 to replace it.

 

[MrGimper]

You need to be careful with refurbs, I've known someone who bought one, the logic board died 6 months later and they charged him £800 to replace it.

With an official apple refurb?? Comes with a year warranty and I have AC+

 

[smallcoffee]

I'm going to wait and see what the refurbs come in at price wise. I bought my 2014 13" in december 2014 as a refurb and paid around £1600 for the 2.8 i5 with 16GB and 1TB flash. I have no need currently to upgrade to a lesser machine in all the areas I am concerned about.
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It's actually shocking that all of this still stands despite the obvious lies the leave camapign peddled. The lies plus the obvious overwhelming miseducation of leave supporters ... "I'm voting leave coz I don't like Cameron", "I'm voting leave to kick all the muslims out". As mentioned above, people voted leave because they thought it would stop ALL immigration, when we have already had control of our borders for non-EU immigration and the government, not the EU, have not controlled it. Also people not wanted some "unelected somebody making our rules" when in fact May is exactly that.

It would be ironic if it wasn't so sad.

Right. The issue was EU immigration. All you have to do is look at the nonsense it's causing on the Continent. The EU will be lucky if France doesn't pull out in 5 years. Letting in an insane amount of people, subsidizing them, and letting them idiotic stuff like go to Syria to fight and become radicalized is beyond stupid.

 

[MLVC]

Right. The issue was EU immigration. All you have to do is look at the nonsense it's causing on the Continent. The EU will be lucky if France doesn't pull out in 5 years. Letting in an insane amount of people, subsidizing them, and letting them idiotic stuff like go to Syria to fight and become radicalized is beyond stupid.

You do realize the problem in France is not immigrants but people from former colonies like Algeria that were born in France?

 

[sim667]

With an official apple refurb?? Comes with a year warranty and I have AC+

Check that out, they used to only have a 3 month warranty...... It may have changed.

 

[Cox Orange]

The prices have been fantasy prices always anyway. In EUR, they used to just take the US price and change the currency Symbol behind it (at least on the German website). This was even in times, when the Dollar was weak towards the Euro (like 1.40:1).

 

[weckart]

Check that out, they used to only have a 3 month warranty...... It may have changed.

Say what? I bought my first refurb when Regent St opened. It had exactly the same guarantee and warranty as a new Mac.

 

[cube]

A politician said it's not an issue so its not an issue. Absolute nonsense. Open your eyes and look at the Calais Jungle. Do you think they are trying to get here for the weather?

Would this be people who can easily get nationality in the UK?

Something to do with your Commonwealth rules?

 

[smallcoffee]

You do realize the problem in France is not immigrants but people from former colonies like Algeria that were born in France?

Doesn't matter

 

[weckart]

Would this be people who can easily get nationality in the UK?

Something to do with your Commonwealth rules?

Nope. EU takes precedence over the Commonwealth, which rankled with Australia in particular when the UK joined the EEC. I needed a visa to enter India on a business trip for example. They want to come over either because they have family here already (mostly Afghans or Syrians) or because they think they will have a better economic future than in France. A lot of those trying to enter are from France's former colonies in Africa and have zero ties to the UK.

 

[cube]

Nope. EU takes precedence over the Commonwealth, which rankled with Australia in particular when the UK joined the EEC. I needed a visa to enter India on a business trip for example. They want to come over either because they have family here already (mostly Afghans or Syrians) or because they think they will have a better economic future than in France. A lot of those trying to enter are from France's former colonies in Africa and have zero ties to the UK.

The point was that maybe you can't get a visa but you can get nationality once in the UK.

 

[weckart]

The point was that maybe you can't get a visa but you can get nationality once in the UK.

No more easily than anyone else. The UK along with Germany is one of the trickier countries within the EU to get citizenship from. Marriage helps but you will be investigated if the Home Office thinks it is bogus in any way. Most illegal immigrants disappear and live on the fringes until they get caught. One of the disqualifiers towards obtaining citizenship is criminality - which includes border offences. Your best bet is asylum from somewhere you cannot be deported to.

 

[cube]

No more easily than anyone else. The UK along with Germany is one of the trickier countries within the EU to get citizenship from. Marriage helps but you will be investigated if the Home Office thinks it is bogus in any way. Most illegal immigrants disappear and live on the fringes until they get caught. One of the disqualifiers towards obtaining citizenship is criminality - which includes border offences. Your best bet is asylum from somewhere you cannot be deported to.

I thought you have some weird Commonwealth rules.

 

[gnasher729]

You need to be careful with refurbs, I've known someone who bought one, the logic board died 6 months later and they charged him £800 to replace it.

All refurbished Macs purchased from Apple come with one year warranty. In addition, Apple advertises them "as new", which means in the UK consumer protection laws will work exactly as for a "new" computer.

 

[H2SO4]

Diesel has indeed been creeping up as the UK£ was creeping down. It didn't jump up by 20% because the largest part of the price is UK tax. Price of Diesel = (Dollar based cost of fuel + UK based fuel tax) + 20% VAT.

Apple prices _jump_ because they don't get adjusted daily; they get adjusted when Apple releases new products.
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Apple isn't increasing prices because of Brexit (Brexit doesn't affect them a lot, except they might be re-thinking having major development places in the UK once access to EU talent gets more difficult - and face it, if all non-UK EU citizens left today, there would be no IT left in the UK). Apple is increasing the prices because the pound dropped. And if, as you predict (without any justification) the pound increases next year, then UK prices will go down _next year_. If the pound manages to go below one dollar, you'll have another 20% increase.

The Mac Pro isn't new, it is in fact one of the oldest of their current line up.
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Marmite is owned by a European company, they count their profits in Euros, all of a sudden they have dipped by a fair percentage because of the devalueing of sterling. They want the same Profits they must put up prices.

Ford recently announced that their turnover from U.K. Sales has dropped by 400million dollars in the last year, they haven't sold any less but the dollar value has fallen 20%

That's why prices will rise.

The main ingredient is produced in England. That’s what the article says. Those employees are paid in pounds,

 

[weckart]

I thought you have some weird Commonwealth rules.

Well, we don't have embassies in Commonwealth states - just High Commissions. Ireland is primus inter pares, then the EU, then the rest of the world as regards entry rights.