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I installed 9.3 on my iPad 4 the day after it was available (probably foolish, I know) and have used it extensively since without a single incident. Sounds like a pretty acute trigger may be involved here.
 
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iOS was never stable under Scott Forstall. iOS 2 was the worst of them all.

Whatever version text copy/cut/paste was added, Mail became a crash monster. Was that iOS 5? I was in love with my iPhone until then. Then it got ... Uh... Dented. After iOS 6.x... Things were fine. I loved that one. Then iOS 7 ruined everything.

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[...]Personally, I would love, love, LOVE for iOS 10 to be a Snow Leopard kind of release. But I would imagine there is far too much temptation and expectation to do something "big" for the number 10. And think about it... remember the days when these forums were filled with the same huge lists of feature requests that Apple seemingly refused to deliver on year after year? You don't see very much of that anymore. I know Apple is always looking for ways to make iOS stand out, but if you can (generally) satisfy the kind of people that frequent MacRumors in regards to feature requests, I'd say you can relax for a bit and focus on performance and GUI issues. iOS is great, but it could be so much better with more polish. [...]

FULLY FREAKING AGREED!!

Yeah, if it was the booking.com app, an update for that appeared just a couple of days ago.

And iOS 9.3 WAS working fine (for me!) just after installation in the middle of the week.

So it add to the evidence that it's the Booking.com update that introduced some instability to the system.

So, what happened to sand boxing stopping crap like this?
 
People suffering from this issue are really only suffering from OCD. /s.

This warrants my obligatory link to iOS 9 UI failures that go unaddressed for 5 months (or possibly much longer)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVQFi5tAhOgeBCheLWnovZExMXFRhQnu-
Revisionist history is not real history.
Yeah, as if iOS 6 doesn't exist anymore. I still have it on a 4S and after using it for 3.5 years, I haven't seen anything this bad and there haven't been this many issues this frequently. It's not revisionist or history, I have it in my hand right now and I can observe it next to iOS 9.
iOS was never stable under Scott Forstall. iOS 2 was the worst of them all.
You always say this but others excuse iOS 9's bugs for it being a newer complex OS. If that's the case, why does iOS 6 do better than the 2.0 software when iOS 6 is newer and more advanced than it?
 
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So from the update, does it appear that the booking.com app is the cause, and not iOS?

If so, I'm looking forward to the raft of apologies to Apple that should be appearing on this thread v soon.....

The problem is, Apple doesn't get credit for the things they do right. Somebody else did it first, it's so simple it should be expected, it doesn't matter much, etc. Apple gets all the credit for things that go wrong. Booking.com just used what Apple wanted them to use, this kind of thing should never happen on an iPhone, Tim Cook is incompetent, etc.

It's just easier to blame one company than to actually figure out the nuances of a problem. Apple almost always bears some of the responsibility in situations like this, but many people never want to go any farther than that.
 
My iPad before his issue was crashing from time to time. Two alarms on my iPhone the other day failed to sound! The first issue is helped by Safari remembering my recent tabs, but the second issue seemed to be more problematic.

Apple certainly isn't perfect so until it is I wish it would shut up about PC and Android.
 
Anybody having an issue where it crashes and sends the phone into an endless reboot cycle?

I had this. It took about 30-40 minutes to get out of it. I tried iTunes in the middle of that cycle, but I just got the "enter your password on the phone" message, so that was useless, although it finally stopped rebooting about 5-10 minutes after I unplugged it from iTunes, so I don't know if it was related.
 
It's not the booking.com app. I wish people would stop talking about this. I have never, ever had this app on any of my devices. And I have this issue.
 
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What's the point in posting this? A huge number of users is affected rendering their iOS devices useless. And Apple remains silent providing zero support.

Love comments like these. As if you know what Apple is doing or lack there of. First rule of technical support, you give it a few hours to resolve itself while looking into the issue. What do you know, the solution presents itself ala booking.com app. Now they can delve further into WTF happened and how to prevent it in the future.

Software bugs pop up. **** happens. Life will go on. It's how things are going to be now and it's something you better get used to in our constantly connected life.
 
I early jumped in to update my iPad Air today, glad I decided to hold back.
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Love comments like these. As if you know what Apple is doing or lack there of. First rule of technical support, you give it a few hours to resolve itself while looking into the issue. What do you know, the solution presents itself ala booking.com app. Now they can delve further into WTF happened and how to prevent it in the future.

Software bugs pop up. **** happens. Life will go on. It's how things are going to be now and it's something you better get used to in our constantly connected life.
One thing we do know, it doesn't just work anymore.
 
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Agreed but its the middle of the Easter break, I imagine nothing will be done. Is tomorrow a holiday in the US?

For how many Betas and still this happens....and every time?

I remember a time when OS releases were stable, under Scott Forstall of course. Everything from hardware to software is just flimsy now.

I early jumped in to update my iPad Air today, glad I decided to hold back.
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One thing we do know, it doesn't just work anymore.
Given that people with iOS versions prior to iOS 9.3 are affected as well, it doesn't seem like it's related to that latest release specifically.
 
What's the point in posting this? A huge number of users is affected rendering their iOS devices useless. And Apple remains silent providing zero support.

Quit being dramatic. It seems to be limited to people using the booking.com app or perhaps a small subset of apps, but it's clearly not that widespread. That's not a "huge number" and the devices are not "useless." Why do you insist on exaggerating so much? Remember that video a while back where the woman didn't have an appointment at the genius bar and lost it, screaming about her outrage and trying to make a scene and ended up looking like a weirdo? Yeah, that.
 
I'm not sure this has anything to do with 9.3 or the Booking app. I had the 9.3 beta for, what, 7 weeks, no issues. I had 9.3 since Tuesday, no issues. Yesterday this started. Mail links and direct Safari with Google fail. If I change Safari to Bing or Yahoo, the browser works. Mail is still iffy.

I fear something else is going on here....
 
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question from a non-developer: how can a sandboxed app have such a huge impact on Safari and the OS in general?

This was related to the deep linking process that allows you to move from a page on the website to the associated view in an app and vice versa, and other various routing for apps. This wasn't caused necessarily by the app, but a system process that was impacted by the legit, but naive use of a set of APIs, by another app.

They were pairing a lot of data and it seems like no one has ever added that amount before - nor was it intended to have been used in that fashion. The iOS process should have been able to preemptively anticipate the situation or just be able to do it, but because of a bug or unexpected result, the process was thrown into an unstable state.

Not only do apps do weird things in unexpected states, a system process like that spans lower than apps meaning its failure to work in the Bookings app made it unstable when handling routes for the Quora app. Thus, either Quora would get invalid information and crash because it should have never gotten that result, or iOS itself would respond to the garbled data and kill Quora on its own.

That's a basic overview without any real deep searching of information, but generally that's how things like this work.
 
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Issue seems to be happening more often with Peek&Pop... I have not had the issue on my iPhone 6S Plus when using safari without 3D Touch.
 
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Quit being dramatic. It seems to be limited to people using the booking.com app or perhaps a small subset of apps, but it's clearly not that widespread. That's not a "huge number" and the devices are not "useless." Why do you insist on exaggerating so much? Remember that video a while back where the woman didn't have an appointment at the genius bar and lost it, screaming about her outrage and trying to make a scene and ended up looking like a weirdo? Yeah, that.
Just check #AppleSupport on twitter and let's see if you are going to write the same things posted above
 
What's the point in posting this? A huge number of users is affected rendering their iOS devices useless. And Apple remains silent providing zero support.

Because most people want to cry about issues that aren't even there most of the time
 
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