On a completely unrelated note, how long are you going to keep your old devices in your signature? Haha. My first thought was "Whoa, this guy has a lot of things".
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Websites Begin Supporting Safari Push Notifications Ahead of Mavericks Launch
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On a completely unrelated note, how long are you going to keep your old devices in your signature? Haha. My first thought was "Whoa, this guy has a lot of things".
Not going to happen. Will they allow partners to advertise on their "feed"? That remains to be seen. But it's just as easy to turn off the feed as it is to turn it on. I would imagine sites don't want to intentionally piss off their users. Apple has the power to shut down any site's push notifications as well.
I'm not privy to the way Mavericks does the implementation but I have setup push notifications for iOS and I would imagine they work the same way. There's no way a spammer is going to be able to use this effectively.
For one you need to a registered Apple developer. To send push notifications you also need a certificate that talks directly to Apple's server. Your server sends the message to Apple's server and Apple sends it on—it's not like spam where anyone can setup a rogue server and send anyone on the planet an e-mail. The setup is actually a pain because you need to register each app. Last I looked, each website domain will need to register to be able to send.
Two, this is limited to Mac OS X users. That shrinks the market down to <10%. Spammers want volume. I can see iOS developers who already have apps in the app store or big sites using this but it's too finicky to setup properly for the average website. For one typical shared (crappy) hosting blocks the ports necessary to communicate with Apple's server to begin with so your favorite blog probably won't be able to give you ability.
Push notifications basically send your device a message and in this case a web link. Theoretically you could track who's clicking the message but you would need to gain details about that person first. If it's anything like iOS you can't get personal details from a person opting in, they're anonymous but since a notification is pretty much just sending you a link, the link could be any url so if you associate that link with an account, you could be tracked.
I can see this being used for things where e-mail notifications were previously used—think FedEx delivery notifications—or someone beat me to it above—forum replies would be useful. Your bank could theoretically use this to tell you when a big deposit hit your account or when you bill is due (like the Chase app on iOS does now) etc.
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Ads are targeted. And Mac users are the people that buys premium quality products. It's where the money is. Ideal target for advertisers/spammers.
I can see how it might help you keep being the first post in every single news thread.
MacRumors is constantly posting new articles. Are you going to be pushing constantly too? What is the point?
CNN will push ever ten seconds?
CNN will push ever ten seconds?
The second half of your second sentence is EXACTLY why I would not want this "feature" enabled. At first it seems kind of like RSS. Since I have RSS I don't need Push. I have long-since exhausted myself on the social media NEEEED for instant updates. I want to get specific news ASAP then move on with my life. That means checking a few sites or site feeds a couple times a day. I don't want my life bombarded with constant messages of new posts and new updates. I don't need to be the first to read a story or the first to reply to a story and that is what this is really about. Too many people feel the need to be "1st post" or as close to it as possible and this "feature" helps meet that need. What the world needs is something to address people's needs, not to exploit them.
IMO notifications should only be used for things that are specifically targeted at a single user (like messages).
It doesn't make sense to use push notifications to alert people to new articles.
It doesn't make sense to use push notifications to alert people to new articles.
It always opens Safari. Sadly.
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If anyone's interested, I've made a Wordpress plugin for making push notifications.
https://github.com/surrealroad/wp-safari-push
I've also created a reference push server to use with it
https://github.com/surrealroad/Safari-Push-Notifications
They are still not 100% ready for a proper public release, but they work if you set them up correctly.
Note: the push server must be HTTPS, and you'll need an Apple developer account.
This habit of putting your devices in the signature is absolutely ridiculous and useless. It's like wearing a Porsche baseball cap when you own a Porsche... No-one gains anything from knowing that stuff.
Nice feature, but I only use chrome on my mac
What's with the Safari disdain? Safari 7 is awesome and is the best browser out there, ESPECIALLY on a Mac.
If you haven't tried Safari 7 you owe it to yourself to give it a shot.
To all the negative nellies out there - stop! You don't have to use this. First, you don't have to turn on notification center. Second, if you chose to turn on notification center, you don't have to enable Safari in notification center. Third, if you visit a site that sends them? You don't have to click Allow.
Issue resolved. And the feature is there for those of us who want to employ it.
I also ask, do you rant about the cnn app sending you notifications? It rarely has ever annoyed me. Certain times it is more active than others (presidential elections, etc).
Issue resolved. And the feature is there for those of us who want to employ it.
I also ask, do you rant about the cnn app sending you notifications? It rarely has ever annoyed me. Certain times it is more active than others (presidential elections, etc).
I am hoping that it is based around the standard HTML Push API but just with further OS integration. That API is supported by Firefox (and probably other browsers too) so would be useful so get widespread support from websites.
I doubt many websites will support it if it is only useful for people using Safari on the very latest version of OS X as they would make up a small proportion of all visitors.
I don't understand why RSS isn't more popular. It gives people a way to follow websites without having to login or subscribe via email. It's more anonymous, but it works great.
I use Thunderbird as my RSS reader. This does make it very much like email. The main difference is that I don't have to reply. One of the nice RSS feeds I like is this one...
http://appshopper.com/feed/?platform=mac&mode=featured
I get to see when popular Mac apps are released, updated or drop in price. I like the App Shopper site, but I don't want to have another website login.
I can see Push Notifications getting extremely annoying. Quite often, if an iPhone app has that feature, I turn it off right away. I don't need "Agent Dash" telling me that I haven't played in a while.
RSS can get tedious, but I only have to check it when I want to. It doesn't get annoying like a banner that flies across my screen or a popup alert box.
This might be incredibly useful for users of web apps - imagine new e-mail notifications from your web-mail service without having to keep your browser open. Or for example (for all you Google fans) notifications from Google+ - which Apple would never integrate into OS X proper as it did with Facebook and Twitter.
And if you are afraid of spam, don't subscribe to push notifications from spammers! This is not e-mail, here you are in control.
And if you are afraid of spam, don't subscribe to push notifications from spammers! This is not e-mail, here you are in control.
I'm slightly confused, I could have sworn I was already getting push notifications or something similar in Chrome already (i.e. "xxxxx.com would like to send you notifications [ Allow | Deny ]"
Unless I'm missing the purpose of those, which is probably the case considering their use is limited to about 4 websites I go to (or rather, 2 - silly site with multiple domain names) and not very feature-heavy.