iPod touch week 38, screen better before 1.1.1 update, anyone else?

[awmazz]

I think theres small print somewhere on the Apple site saying that the display on that picture is for illustration purposes only. They are not real photos eather.

Sure, I know it's photoshopped and not real. But at the very least I expected it to be representative of the actual product. What they've done there though is just nowhere near reality, not even in the ballpark. They could have photoshopped a genuine iPhone screen on it if they didn't have a working iPt in time for the photography.

So what's it supposed to be 'illustrating'? That it HAS a screen? Certainly not illustrating anything ABOUT the screen.

I don't know. I'm reminded of that scene in Falling Down where Defens is holding up a hamburger and asking the fast food person why it doesn't look anything like the one in the store menu advertising. I guess advertising the hamburger as looking much better than it really does was for 'illustration' purposes too.

 

[ShanePod]

lol it is called the placebo effect. everyone is paranoid now!


notice most of the people making this claims do indeed have the user title "newbie"

lol my statues in newbie but i do agree and its funny you would say that because my dad just told me about some mac podcast that was saying that some people have been saying negative things about the iPod touch they didnt even have.

 

[Kpod]

If you want to convince people that the 1.1.1 FW update ruined your screen, take before and after pictures. Otherwise I agree with others here, it's the placebo affect... you probably wouldn't have noticed didley squat if you hadn't read that this updated addressed screen issues on some iPods.

I updated mine (week 38), and even if the gamma profile changed slightly I certainly don't notice it during regular movie watching.

Geez, I certainly never expected that I'd be attacked for sharing my experience. Someone thought their screen looked worse after the update and wanted to know if anyone else had the same result. I'm not trying to convince anyone... I'm just sharing what happened to me. You can refuse to believe me, but please don't trash me just for posting.

People seem to be hateful around here for no reason. I'm glad your iPods look great...mine is shipping back on Monday. Lighten up, will ya?

 

[uburoibob]

Geez, I certainly never expected that I'd be attacked for sharing my experience. Someone thought their screen looked worse after the update and wanted to know if anyone else had the same result. I'm not trying to convince anyone... I'm just sharing what happened to me. You can refuse to believe me, but please don't trash me just for posting.

People seem to be hateful around here for no reason. I'm glad your iPods look great...mine is shipping back on Monday. Lighten up, will ya?

I guess what everyone is saying is it doesn't affect week 38 screens. I didn't see any difference on mine. Perhaps, you'd be better off taking your questionable media on a disk to a store and loading one of the telling images into another unit on display that has not been upgraded and see if you see a difference looking at exactly the same image...

That's all. It's very tough to recall what something looked like before in any qualititative way.

Bob

 

[dexx0008]

I guess what everyone is saying is it doesn't affect week 38 screens. I didn't see any difference on mine. Perhaps, you'd be better off taking your questionable media on a disk to a store and loading one of the telling images into another unit on display that has not been upgraded and see if you see a difference looking at exactly the same image...

That's all. It's very tough to recall what something looked like before in any qualititative way.

Bob

I started this thread was to see if anyone noticed a change in their 38 screens. It wasn't to start a debate of people being imagining things. It may be my opinion, but my week 38 screen did indeed change (as i suspect others have,,, read not all). the blacks in movie playback are not nearly as dark as they were before i applied 1.1.1

I don't feel it is that hard to imagine that the fix that was applied that is correcting week 36 and 37 ipods is also affecting some 38's. We have no idea what apple used to determine which ipods got the fix. Perhaps at somepoint during manufacture,,, they noticed the issue and applied a fix with different gamma settings after some 38 units were already shipped out. the firmware update would than be undetectable on units that shipped later; while week 36,37, and some 38's are being affected.

I also stated in my post that it wasn't a big enough issue that i would be returning mine because i really do like the unit and I am satisfied with it. I wanted to see if others noticed the same issue, and I see some have. There is another thread around here that does have before and after pictures of the patch where u can tell the blacks are different. The same thing I am seeing.

to me, slightly lighter blacks is better than not doing a firmware upgrade and missing out on bug fixes.

 

[Kpod]

I also stated in my post that it wasn't a big enough issue that i would be returning mine because i really do like the unit and I am satisfied with it. I wanted to see if others noticed the same issue, and I see some have. There is another thread around here that does have before and after pictures of the patch where u can tell the blacks are different. The same thing I am seeing.

to me, slightly lighter blacks is better than not doing a firmware upgrade and missing out on bug fixes.

It's definitely a nice piece of equipment. I was satisfied with mine too other than the screen change and the handful of stuck pixels. I could live with the slight contrast/gamma change (or whatever they did to it) even though I honestly think it looked better before. I'm returning mine based on the stuck pixels I noticed after the update. I have it all packed up and ready to be shipped back. I definitely plan on purchasing another one in the future...maybe around Christmas or later. Hopefully this screen mumbo jumbo will be worked out by then. Better yet, maybe my wife will let me get an iPhone instead. I'm still working on her...she's not too keen on the monthly contract.

 

[duraace]

I've got a week 38 and I couldn't be happier with mine, even post 1.1.1. The only thing that would make it better for me would be standalone RSS reader and an up-datable calendar. The sound quality is superior to my first gen iPod Nano, and I haven't the slightest misgivings about the video quality. It's all superb. It's exceeded my expectations.

 

[jockmock]

Here's one that will refuse to upgrade the firmware when my touch arrives

 

[dexx0008]

Here's one that will refuse to upgrade the firmware when my touch arrives

now how long can you hold out???

i was going to hold out too, but figured bug fixes would be better to have. I figured something would come along soon enough that would get me to update anyway.

 

[TheSpaz]

Here's one that will refuse to upgrade the firmware when my touch arrives

Hah. It's all in your head. Mine updated to 1.1.1 fine and yours will too. If you have a GOOD screen already, the update won't hurt it... if you have a bad screen, the update will HELP it. Just update the dang thing.

 

[California King]

Hah. It's all in your head. Mine updated to 1.1.1 fine and yours will too. If you have a GOOD screen already, the update won't hurt it... if you have a bad screen, the update will HELP it. Just update the dang thing.

Are you sure? Maybe some iPod touches do get worse after the update. You never know...I think there was a comparison shown in one of these threads and the update made everything black look grey.

 

[wakerider017]

just because we may have recently signed up for a forum account, doesn't necessarily mean we are newbies to apple. --> much less mean it is the first time we have visited macrumors or the forums.... i'm sure u have an account on every site on the web you visit.

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Anything I give you would be a placebo.

[frantic] Where can we get these placebos?

You do have a point. Some newbies I am sure are much more experienced than me...

Chance are they are not, and most are probably pretty new to apple products.

 

[uburoibob]

I started this thread was to see if anyone noticed a change in their 38 screens. It wasn't to start a debate of people being imagining things. It may be my opinion, but my week 38 screen did indeed change (as i suspect others have,,, read not all). the blacks in movie playback are not nearly as dark as they were before i applied 1.1.1

I don't feel it is that hard to imagine that the fix that was applied that is correcting week 36 and 37 ipods is also affecting some 38's. We have no idea what apple used to determine which ipods got the fix. Perhaps at somepoint during manufacture,,, they noticed the issue and applied a fix with different gamma settings after some 38 units were already shipped out. the firmware update would than be undetectable on units that shipped later; while week 36,37, and some 38's are being affected.

I also stated in my post that it wasn't a big enough issue that i would be returning mine because i really do like the unit and I am satisfied with it. I wanted to see if others noticed the same issue, and I see some have. There is another thread around here that does have before and after pictures of the patch where u can tell the blacks are different. The same thing I am seeing.

to me, slightly lighter blacks is better than not doing a firmware upgrade and missing out on bug fixes.

Is it possible that the firmware actually sets a pre-established black level based on the brand of LCD in the iPod touch? The idea of a gamma correction, or contrast correction, or brightness correction is just more of the speculative drivel that got the gang mentality going on all this to begin with. I've read about bad week 38 screens. It's possible that you had a bad one - and now you have a good one. SO much is subjective here.

All I am saying is if you are taking it back, why not make sure the same content would look different on a new one. Otherwise, you'll always have to be relying on memory, and we know that isn't any good (not just you - the Beatles Anthology had half a dozen people clearly remembering the same incident half a dozen different ways...).

Bob

 

[Corsairkid]

Im going to briefly change the direction of this thread. When I updated my week 38, my screen stayed the same. However, I have noticed a problem with safari. It will NOT load most websites. It does fine with simple sites such as google, but any site with a decent amount of content (such as macrumors), will not load. It will begin to load, but it will just never get there. Sometimes, it will partially load, but never finish. Could it be that the update caused this, or just a conicidence? Either way, if anyone has experienced this, or provide insight on what may cause this, please share. Thanks.

 

[California King]

Im going to briefly change the direction of this thread. When I updated my week 38, my screen stayed the same. However, I have noticed a problem with safari. It will NOT load most websites. It does fine with simple sites such as google, but any site with a decent amount of content (such as macrumors), will not load. It will begin to load, but it will just never get there. Sometimes, it will partially load, but never finish. Could it be that the update caused this, or just a conicidence? Either way, if anyone has experienced this, or provide insight on what may cause this, please share. Thanks.

Hopefully Apple will release a new update soon. They seem to be off their game..I just wished that enough people could get the attention of Apple so they could do something about all the problems people have with iPod Touches.

 

[Chris F]

Tell you what, when my W38 unit shows up this week I will take some pictures and video of the unit in action before and after the update. (unless it shows up with 1.1.1 in which case well... )

 

[California King]

Tell you what, when my W38 unit shows up this week I will take some pictures and video of the unit in action before and after the update. (unless it shows up with 1.1.1 in which case well... )

Good idea. I look forward to it! Let's get this thing straightened out.

 

[themiracle]

1.1 v 1.1.1 Comparison

Tell you what, when my W38 unit shows up this week I will take some pictures and video of the unit in action before and after the update. (unless it shows up with 1.1.1 in which case well... )

Beating you to it:

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4263813

There is definitely a slight difference between the two firmwares, but how noticeable it is in general is hard to say. The 1.1.1 firmware did produce a noticeably brighter image, which may be related to a change in contrast, but I had to really stare at the two screens to tell the difference in values. I would think that certain videos that really emphasize dark values might not display well.

 

[Britblogger]

my screen was always at 100% brightness, and after the update it looked a little washed out... that was until I turned the brightness down to about 65% on the scale.

the picture looks almost sharper - better contrast.

anything that betters our viewing pleasure, I'm in favor of.

 

[Windleaf2]

I updated my week 38 today and it still looks great playing movies. Many of us on this forum are listed as Newbies only because we haven't posted more threads, but I bet more than one of us have more than 0ne apple product we may have struggle with.

Let's hope apple will stay informed of the problems some seem to be having and provide fixes for our exspensive toys.


8 gig Nano
30 gig Classic
Mac Mini

 

[lupka]

My week 38 looked great from day one. I've installed the update, and it seems to be the same.