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they will integrate automated vending machines into their stores.
buy products and make contracts (automated signature -> that is what the ipads are for) without standing in line or wait for service.
there are already existing vending machines only for apple products at air-ports around the US.
the vending machine will be re-designed and integrated into the apple stores.
eventually with a store window pane integration of the display and product release for buying their products 24/7 -> without any special needed service employee..
that would be my next step if my name was S. J.
 
there are already existing vending machines only for apple products at air-ports around the US.

I've also seen some of these vending machines in Las Vegas hotels. IPods, earbuds, etc. Don't think I've seen an iPhone in one though.
 
Now...

... I understand why my iPad shipment has been delayed from the promised May 13 to May 24. they need them in the stores.
 
iPads

according to a person i know in Apple, the iPads are going to be used for training in stores, not for point of sales...
 
The truth about this weekend.

I have from good inside sources that the real reason for the required 7AM "all hands" meeting is an attempt to counter the Microsoft Stores.

Instead of synchronized line dancing, from now on all Apple sales reps will intermittently begin to simultaneously pop and lock.

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Are you suggesting that there is no correlation between the most profitable retail stores in the world, and the fact that they are always packed full of people "not buying anything"?

How else would you explain the fact that any other retailer on the planet would drop their shorts for such a "problem"?

You're probably too young to remember. But back in my day Sam Goody used to be packed to the frills with casual browsing people who hardly bought anything.

Gone.

Wherehouse MUSIC used to be packed to the frills with casual browsing people who hardly bought anything.

Gone.

Tower Records used to be packed to the frills with casual browsing people who hardly bought anything except vinyls.

Gone.

Circuit City used to be packed to the frills - at least back in 97 and 98 - with casual browsing people who hardly bought anything.

Gone.

Gateway Computers used to be local. They had tons of people flocking to check out their cow-based computers.

Gone.

eMachines used to hold the monty on sales for literally starting the "cheap computer" craze we're seeing now. I remember being able to buy eMachines for $150 at one point.

Gone (bought out).

CompUSA used to have people browsing all the time as an alternative to Best Buy.

Gone.

Sharper Image had TONS of people - travelers and tourists as well as locals - in and out of their store all of the time because of the cool toys.

Gone.

Incredible Universe used to be PACKED with people. Half of them went to the games section and played for hours. The parents shopped for TVs and whatnot.

Gone.


Like Dorian Gray said in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen...empires crumble. There are no exceptions. Apple can keep up its cybercafé approach only so long before it's going to have to start reigning people in. 500 visitors and 5 buying something major is NOT a good ratio - just saying. They don't even have to lock things down all the way. But as was mentioned, right when school gets out and on the weekends is a downright nightmare with brats who sit on Facebook and Farmville for HOURS and never buy anything.

I also think it's a good idea to further isolate the Genius Bar - maybe behind double glass doors or something - to mute the noise of all of the people.

At my local Apple Store - which I HATE walking into - they're good people and I've never had a major malfunction but there are just TOO MANY non-buying people. There have been plenty of times I've walked in there with a bunch of cash, straight up to one of the nerds, and told them exactly what machine I wanted, and they're shocked. Like it's just unheard of. So I ask them and they're like, "yeah, we hardly ever get anyone who just buys something, most like it, but see the price and leave."
 
It's probably more accurate to say that "Apple stores not universally displaying their product line" isn't a problem.

Are you eight?

Going to an apple store, and having a salesperson hand you a sealed box and describe what the thing inside it looks like, without being able to show you an example of the thing or how it works, or open the box til you buy it, is lame.

But what do I know, I guess I'm a wacko. Normal people like you replace their companies Exchange server environment with a totally new system sight unseen... So yea, maybe it's not a problem. Really, it wasn't a problem either. Aside from a couple wasted hours of time, we just went ahead and bought a Drobo NAS & google services instead, & they've been fine.
 
You're probably too young to remember. But back in my day <insert company here> used to be packed to the frills with casual browsing people who hardly bought anything.

Gone.
Gone.
Gone.
Gone.
Gone.
Gone (bought out).
Gone.
Gone.
Gone.

Like Dorian Gray said in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen...empires crumble. There are no exceptions. Apple can keep up its cybercafé approach only so long before it's going to have to start reigning people in. 500 visitors and 5 buying something major is NOT a good ratio - just saying.

At my local Apple Store - which I HATE walking into - they're good people and I've never had a major malfunction but there are just TOO MANY non-buying people. There have been plenty of times I've walked in there with a bunch of cash, straight up to one of the nerds, and told them exactly what machine I wanted, and they're shocked. Like it's just unheard of. So I ask them and they're like, "yeah, we hardly ever get anyone who just buys something, most like it, but see the price and leave."

Sooo...no one's buying anything, but for some reason Apple stores have the highest dollar sales per square foot of any other store out there. Other retailers would KILL to get the ROI that Apple stores earn.

Your post was almost like an old Yogi Berra quote, "Nobody goes there anymore, its too crowded."
 
K...

Let's say that apple IS having their staff start using iPads as opposed to iPod touches in their stores... wouldn't you think that it wouldn't require all the additional training? Considering that iPad's, iPhones, and iPod touches use basically the exact same OS, AND these guys are seasoned Mac pros?

The photo with the stacks of Ipads is convincing, but there's GOT to be more to this then that.

I would guess a big visual store revamp... and maybe a new product launch for their 10th anniversary? Something that would rely on the basic chassis of their current gear, but maybe go a little bit further with it?
 
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macchiato2009 said:
slu said:
I agree 100%. I hate Apple stores, mostly because they are packed with people that have no intention of buying anything. I avoid them at all costs.


so you would only accept customers in your store only if they buy ?

do you enjoy going to store where there is a sign "please do not touch" ?


hey can i touch and try the product ? no sir, you can buy and please get out of here...

so nice...

This is ridiculous and you know it.

1. I never said they should ban people. I don't like the stores, so I don't go to them.

2. There is a huge difference between the people that are "trying before they buy" and the people that just hang out in the stores. It is usually quite easy to see the difference. The loitering is really annoying and takes away from actual customers.
 
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revelated said:
Are you suggesting that there is no correlation between the most profitable retail stores in the world, and the fact that they are always packed full of people "not buying anything"?

How else would you explain the fact that any other retailer on the planet would drop their shorts for such a "problem"?

You're probably too young to remember. But back in my day Sam Goody used to be packed to the frills with casual browsing people who hardly bought anything.

Gone.

Wherehouse MUSIC used to be packed to the frills with casual browsing people who hardly bought anything.

Gone.

Tower Records used to be packed to the frills with casual browsing people who hardly bought anything except vinyls.

Gone.

Circuit City used to be packed to the frills - at least back in 97 and 98 - with casual browsing people who hardly bought anything.

Gone.

Gateway Computers used to be local. They had tons of people flocking to check out their cow-based computers.

Gone.

eMachines used to hold the monty on sales for literally starting the "cheap computer" craze we're seeing now. I remember being able to buy eMachines for $150 at one point.

Gone (bought out).

CompUSA used to have people browsing all the time as an alternative to Best Buy.

Gone.

Sharper Image had TONS of people - travelers and tourists as well as locals - in and out of their store all of the time because of the cool toys.

Gone.

Incredible Universe used to be PACKED with people. Half of them went to the games section and played for hours. The parents shopped for TVs and whatnot.

Gone.


Like Dorian Gray said in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen...empires crumble. There are no exceptions. Apple can keep up its cybercafé approach only so long before it's going to have to start reigning people in. 500 visitors and 5 buying something major is NOT a good ratio - just saying. They don't even have to lock things down all the way. But as was mentioned, right when school gets out and on the weekends is a downright nightmare with brats who sit on Facebook and Farmville for HOURS and never buy anything.

I also think it's a good idea to further isolate the Genius Bar - maybe behind double glass doors or something - to mute the noise of all of the people.

At my local Apple Store - which I HATE walking into - they're good people and I've never had a major malfunction but there are just TOO MANY non-buying people. There have been plenty of times I've walked in there with a bunch of cash, straight up to one of the nerds, and told them exactly what machine I wanted, and they're shocked. Like it's just unheard of. So I ask them and they're like, "yeah, we hardly ever get anyone who just buys something, most like it, but see the price and leave."

Yup. And I'll add that I am not sure what profitability has to do with anything. But if the stores are so perfect and profitable now, why do they ever make any changes at all?
 
Not sure how this is going to help at check out. Still need to swipe a debit card or credit card. If paying with cash the ipad is not a cash register.
The iPod-touch EasyPays have been able to accept cash since before I quit, and that was well over a year ago.

If a customer wants to pay in cash, we just walk over to one of the two networked cash drawers in the store (in the store I worked at, they were built into the end of tables with iMacs on them), type into the EasyPay how much cash they're giving you, click the button, and the cash drawer pops open. EasyPay tells you how much change to give them. Put the money in, take the change out, and you're done. No cash register required.
 
Every Quarter

I think if you go back and look, Apple's retail stores have a staff meeting once every quarter. Every quarter all the rumor mongers get all excited and then nothing much happens. These meetings are when they recognize employee efforts and it gives the managers a chance to talk to everybody at once.
 
Sooo...no one's buying anything, but for some reason Apple stores have the highest dollar sales per square foot of any other store out there.

If Apple Store sells ONE 17" MacBook Pro, at their current level of profit margin, the Microsoft Store would need to sell:

- Two Alienware laptops
- Four HP laptops
- Three Sony Vaios
- Four Dell laptops

Basic math, dude. Don't look at the dollar per square foot. Look at the UNITS MOVED. As I said, if Apple has 500 visitors and 5 buy something major, sure, their dollar per square foot looks impressive in comparison because their prices are out of whack, but they also only converted 1% of their traffic to buyers. THEN the ratio doesn't look all that pretty.

Compare that to a Best Buy where if they have 300 visitors to the computer section (low, I know), and they get just 30 to buy a laptop (Also low), they've already blown past Apple in what is impressive (10% conversion). That's because Best Buy does not allow brats and chicks to just hang out and do nothing. You can for a while to try the device out, but not all frickin day long unless you're just on the fence. Best Buy has people constantly buying laptops because they're cheap. Apple does not have constant SALES.

Constant foot traffic <> constant sales.

Another point of consideration - come Black Friday, people won't be flocking to the Apple Store to buy things. They will go everywhere that's cheap and just drop their brats off at the Apple Store to play around.
 
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