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Do people normally eat when they're not hungry? When I'm bored, I usually just grab a book or something.

Interesting isn't it? Here are some examples of eating when not hungry:
1. Christmas period; another set of relatives visit and ANOTHER big dinner. It would be rude of me to not participate.
2. Business dinner - I'll show these guys a good time by taking them to a good restaurant even though I'm not hungry. And it's awkward to sit an watch others eat.
3. Popcorn or candy munching in cinemas - shovelling it in, habitual eating rather than real hunger. And they sell that stuff in BUCKETS :eek:
4. Driving along: ooh I just fancy a sweet something....

I wish I was perfect, but I fall into these traps occasionally. We are habitual creatures so you have to be really conscious to avoid it becoming an everyday activity.
 
It's not usually the actual food that makes people fat, but all the crap you eat in between. And no, junk food is not count as food. A proper home-cooked meal often has 600-800cal. You can safely eat two proper meals and a good breakfast without breaking the 2000cal barrier. Switch one of those meals to a burger or add a 200g bag of chips and the case will be different.

I used to make those lousy excuses 6 months ago. I thought I have slow metabolism so no matter what I do, I'll be fat. That is the mother of all lies. I used to be over 100kg. Okay, I wasn't obese (yet) but the extra weight sure didn't help. This morning, I was 80.7kg. I've pretty much lost 24kg in less than 6 months, just by stopping eating all that crap.

There is no need for water tricks or anything like that. Losing weight isn't starving either. I would say I eat more nowadays than I used to eat before my weight loss. All what matters is what you eat. I could eat a burger a day but why would I? I know I would be hungry 30mins afterwards. For the same amount of calories, I can have 300g of chicken, 200g of cottage cheese and salad. That will keep me going for several hours.

I'm now trying to move to 2500cal diet in order to improve my muscle gain and to be honest, it feels freaking hard to eat 2500cal worth of food everyday. If it was junk food and candy, then it would be so easy. I have to admit that I have to rely on protein shakes in order to get enough calories and protein. I simply cannot eat more and have even less time to cook anything, plus food is so damn expensive here (1kg chicken = 15€).
 
i would call myself fat but most of everyone i know is skinny, it is a combo of metabolism genetics and how much a person actually eats and exercises, furthermore those factors all weight out different in (ie one will over power the other). on my mothers side of the family they are somewhat large and live to an average 0f 75 and my dads side lives to 100 and has the fastest metabolism ive ever seen. i could eat the same or less than most people i know and still gain weight while they stay the same, they don't exercise, neither do i except for gym class and in the summer when i play sports. there are people who eat themselves to death i know of 2 such people and its horrible but they enjoy it and dont care. so its not always peoples fault but sometimes it can be
 
i would call myself fat but most of everyone i know is skinny, it is a combo of metabolism genetics and how much a person actually eats and exercises, furthermore those factors all weight out different in (ie one will over power the other). on my mothers side of the family they are somewhat large and live to an average 0f 75 and my dads side lives to 100 and has the fastest metabolism ive ever seen. i could eat the same or less than most people i know and still gain weight while they stay the same, they don't exercise, neither do i except for gym class and in the summer when i play sports. there are people who eat themselves to death i know of 2 such people and its horrible but they enjoy it and dont care. so its not always peoples fault but sometimes it can be

Metabolism is a function of muscle mass mostly. Build muscle mass, and you'll burn more calories while sitting idle just maintaining it. Also, not all foods are created equal. Some is more calorie dense than others (for example, 100g of chicken breast contains about 180 calories while the same 100g of Porc contains 224. 100g of Tofu, extra-firm, contains 150).

You don't have a slow metabolism. I was fat and ate junk. Like Hellhammer, these days, I'm skinny and fit and can barely keep the weight on pigging out on the good stuff. I eat more than I use to and if I'm not careful, I shed weight. I'm currently trying to keep a 2750/3000 cal diet.

Pay attention to the calorie content of what you eat in a day and you'll understand. Those people with "fast" metabolism ? They eat better than we did. I have one guy at work who claims a "fast metabolism", yet I watched what he ate, and his lunch was often times 1 microwave "Stouffers" type lunch. Checking the box on it, it had around 250 cal. He then ate an Apple. And drank water. Fast metabolism my ass. Sure he hate greasy foods sometimes, but that's the catch, that was like once every 2 weeks. He'd sit there and eat that crap and say "look, I can eat this stuff and no gain a lbs". Sure smartass, you've been living with a calorie deficit for the last 2 weeks.

That's not a healthy way to eat and his muscle mass is probably very low.

(Anecdote, I use to eat 4 pop tarts, the double fudge kind, for breakfeast. I "only" ate 4 because I thought eating more would be just bad, but I felt hungry like 10 minutes later every time. Checking the box last night at the grocery store just for fun, I find out those things are 210 cals per pop tart. :eek: So I was eating 840 cal and feeling hungry still. No wait, I also usually had a tall glass of milk, the 3.25% kind, 120 cal per cup, about 1 cup. 960 calories, just getting up in the morning)

These days my usual breakfeast is around 675 cal. It's composed of 2 portions of all-bran, a mix of fruit (banana, strawberries, blue-berries, raspberries), 1 cup of 1% milk, 2 toasts whole-wheat high fiber and for some sweetness, usually a tbsp of maple syrup or honey and some low sugar jam. That gets me through a couple of hours. It's more food than the 4 pop tarts yet it's about 2/3s the calories.)

Education my friend. Read the labels, and start searching online for stuff that doesn't have labels :

http://caloriecount.about.com/
 
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I stand 176cm (5'9") and weigh about 70kg (155ish lbs). My eating habits aren't perfect, but I've been working on improving them, by severely reducing the amount of pop I drink and sugary crap I eat. I bike about 10 to 15 kilometres every day as a workout and I'm doing some upper body strength training to get rid of those annoying moobs.
 
Just continue with the exercise.

I'm 177 cm (~5'10") and 72 kg (160 lbs), or basically the same size as you, and I don't look or feel fat at all. If you're doing that much exercise, you shouldn't have moobs. :confused:
 
(for example, 100g of chicken breast contains about 180 calories while the same 100g of Porc contains 224. 100g of Tofu, extra-firm, contains 150).

I don't think they have that much, at least not the ones we have here:

100g of chicken breast (naturel) = 110cal (23g P, 0g C, 2g F)
100g of pork's tenderloin (naturel) = 130cal (21g P, 0g C, 4g F)

Obviously, if you buy the ones with marinade, it will have more calories per 100g. Could be that our animals are just feed differently if your naturel chicken breasts have 180cal (what super-weed are you giving to your animals? :p). In pork's case, it also depends on what part of pork you are looking at (I prefer tenderloin, it's so cheap in here, easy to cook and tastes good).

Otherwise you are 100% right. Slightly offtopic question, how much does food, especially meat, chicken etc cost in other countries? I want to know are we the only ones who get ripped off (chick breast: 15€/kg, pork's tenderloin: 8€/kg, ox' tenderloin: 26€/kg foreign - 55€/kg local, salmon: 20€/kg).
 
I don't think they have that much, at least not the ones we have here:

100g of chicken breast (naturel) = 110cal (23g P, 0g C, 2g F)
100g of pork's tenderloin (naturel) = 130cal (21g P, 0g C, 4g F)

I was using the numbers off of About.com's calorie counter. Obviously, calorie content will be lower in leaner meats (as the most caloric part of the meat is the fat) so it's better to buy meat with the actual nutrition information sticker on it to be sure than relying on online ressources (like you say, a lot of variety in meats).

Yes, 180 cal for 100g chicken does sound high, as my extra lean ground beef has that much according to its stickers (and it makes a darn good spaghetti sauce to boot!).

Otherwise you are 100% right. Slightly offtopic question, how much does food, especially meat, chicken etc cost in other countries? I want to know are we the only ones who get ripped off (chick breast: 15€/kg, pork's tenderloin: 8€/kg, ox' tenderloin: 26€/kg foreign - 55€/kg local, salmon: 20€/kg).

I can get chicken breast around 8-10$/lbs so around 12.50€/kg. That's for local produce from local breeders (is that the English word you use for people who do livestock ? We use the same word in French for pet breeders than for livestock farmers).
 
How can you have man boobs with a healthy BMI ? :confused: What's your body fat percentage ?

Just continue with the exercise.

I'm 177 cm (~5'10") and 72 kg (160 lbs), or basically the same size as you, and I don't look or feel fat at all. If you're doing that much exercise, you shouldn't have moobs. :confused:

It's my complete lack of upper body strength. It's something I'm trying to fix, but it takes time to build muscle and lose fat. My body fat percentage, last time I checked was roughly 15%. I will definitely be continuing with the exercise. I am without a bike for the next couple days - my current one is far, far too small for me, so I have purchased a new one. Trying to stay calorie neutral, I'd go out running but I'm also brilliantly without my running shoes, and the weather on the 2-4 weekend here has sadly been quite poor.

I try to maintain a 2000ish calorie per day diet and burn far more than that.
 
I don't think they have that much, at least not the ones we have here:

Slightly offtopic question, how much does food, especially meat, chicken etc cost in other countries? I want to know are we the only ones who get ripped off (chick breast: 15€/kg, pork's tenderloin: 8€/kg, ox' tenderloin: 26€/kg foreign - 55€/kg local, salmon: 20€/kg).

In Switzerland, meat was very expensive. Ham at 35CHF/kg (c.25EUR/kg), and chicken only a bit cheaper. We used to feed smoked salmon to the kids, because when it was on special offer, it was the cheaper than ham. The veggies were expensive also but good quality.

We're in America right now, and meat is cheap (and can be crappy), but bread is surprisingly expensive at 3-4USD/loaf vs half that in Europe. Of course wheat isn't subsidized as much as America's famous corn belt.
 
Approximately since highschool I was between 160-170 with a height of 5'7. My weight remained in that range for 5-7 years. Then I went to gym, stopped eating dense home food and started limiting portions. I usually go to gym twice a week for about an hour with some cardio and some weights. Viola! Down to about 145-147 right now with a much smaller butt/belly and bigger shoulders/arms. Of course I took it the slow way as it took a while to get there but a workout schedule like that is a lot easier to deal with in every day life. My diet evolved too. I try to eat less microwaved food (I don't cook) and I cut down meat to 1-2 times/day. Most of the meat I eat is chicken/fish with some beef/pork on occasion.

All it takes is diet and exercise but one must get themselves in gear and do the regiment religiously without skipping. Then results will show up.
 
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