Weird how the 15rMBP had a lot of praise but the 13rMBP is getting alot of negatives

[driftless]

Some prices for comparison. FYI - I opted for upgraded CPU in all configurations.

13" MBA

• 2.0 GHz CPU
• 8GB RAM
• 512GB SSD
• AppleCare

$2,448.00

13" rMBP

• 2.9Ghz CPU
• 8GB RAM
• 512GB SSD
• AppleCare

$2,948.00

15" rMBP

• 2.7 GHz Quad CPU (and discrete GPU)
• 8GB RAM
• 512GB SSD
• AppleCare

$3,398.00

Comparing prices, it does look like the 15" rMBP is the better value, although it is the most expensive option.

 

[netdog]

That is total speculation. Apple maintains 40% margins across their product line, and makes no secret about it. If this is overpriced, so is everything else they make.

We have no idea what the cost of the screen is to manufacture, and how good/bad the yields are at the moment.

There is no one else shipping screens like this. It is new technology, and new technology is expensive, starting out.

A 15" screen, 4 cores versus two, and a separate GPU (as opposed to integrated only). I find it hard to understand why the 15" and 13" with otherwise similar 8/256 configurations are only $100/£100 apart in price give all of the extra you get with the 15" base model.

So yes, I think that the 13" is certainly relatively overpriced.

 

[neteng101]

THIS.

Why are so many unable to accept that the pricing of the 13" Retina is an EPIC FAIL?

I think its more than pricing that irks them. If you want to buy a 13" rMBP you have to accept not only the pricing failure but the fact that it means trading off some extras like the dedicated GPU option. So the insecure will constantly need to find ways to "justify" their purchase and make them feel better about themselves.

Simple pricing math - $1,699 to $1,999 is a $300 premium for a 128 -> 256GB SSD. We already know retail Samsung SSDs of those sizes are no more than $80 of a different on retail pricing. That's far more than the typical margins. The i7 dual-core should be a given for the $1,999 rMBP period. You can check Intel's retail suggested pricing on the processors, of course the pricing Apple gets is nowhere near that.

Nothing can be done about the loss of dedicated GPU (if that's a big deal, wait for Haswell, it should hit a sweeter spot to support the retinas).

 

[robvas]

It'd be a big seller if the air didn't exist. But it's basically a $500 upcharge from the Air for a better screen, worse battery life, and an extra TB port (which nobody uses anyway)

 

[driftless]

It'd be a big seller if the air didn't exist. But it's basically a $500 upcharge from the Air for a better screen, worse battery life, and an extra TB port (which nobody uses anyway)

FWIW - the 13" rMBP is smaller (W x D), although not lighter than the MBA. I think that it will be a big seller despite the pricing and the presence of the MBA.

 

[PatriotInvasion]

People complaining there is no 16GB of RAM option...the 13" is for "the pro in all of us". AKA - It's more of the consumer MBPro and 16GB of RAM for that audience is OVERKILL.

You want top tier specs, get the 15". The price/spec ratio is no different than any other new technology that comes out. Find another 13" notebook with a 2560x1600 resolution and OS X for less money

 

[Naimfan]

I think its more than pricing that irks them. If you want to buy a 13" rMBP you have to accept not only the pricing failure but the fact that it means trading off some extras like the dedicated GPU option. So the insecure will constantly need to find ways to "justify" their purchase and make them feel better about themselves.

-Price - especially when compared to the 15
-No discrete GPU
-No quad core option
-No 16GB RAM option

Not to mention, they were aware of the image retention issues by now but obviously no progress..

I'll take a 13" over a 15" any day, but not this one. I'd look elsewhere before I'd consider this one.

I agree with the above.

If the "base" rMBP came with a 256 GB drive for $1499, OK. Still expensive, but (barely) tolerable. As it is priced now, it feels like a rip-off. Not having a 16 GB option is a mistake. And it is hilarious for the fanbois to claim that those of us who don't like them can't afford them.

I'm writing this on a 13" rMBP with 256 GB, and I'm returning when I get home at the end of the week and wipe it. Sure, the screen is nice - better than the non-retina ones. But it's not THAT much better.