+1. I did a standard install just for ***** and giggles but then didnt bother to do a clean install because everything worked beautifully.
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Well, ive upgraded to os 10.6 [Problem resolved - merge from post 18 onward]
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+1. I did a standard install just for ***** and giggles but then didnt bother to do a clean install because everything worked beautifully.
Repair disk permissions...
My trouble installing SL was that it certainly did not say anything about going to 'disk utilities' to run verify and repair disk permissions. The 1st result was a catastrophe: interrupted installation and machine crashing. Only after a lengthy phone call to Apple did I learn how to get the machine going and how to do the above and then install.
Since then there's been some intermittent slowing down of the computer and now the shift keys have ceased to work when I want capital s. I can get all the other caps and even s if use caps lock but not with shift. Don't know whether this is because of SL or what, but very annoying, all the same.
Macbook 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB 1067Mhz DDR3
My trouble installing SL was that it certainly did not say anything about going to 'disk utilities' to run verify and repair disk permissions. The 1st result was a catastrophe: interrupted installation and machine crashing. Only after a lengthy phone call to Apple did I learn how to get the machine going and how to do the above and then install.
Since then there's been some intermittent slowing down of the computer and now the shift keys have ceased to work when I want capital s. I can get all the other caps and even s if use caps lock but not with shift. Don't know whether this is because of SL or what, but very annoying, all the same.
Macbook 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB 1067Mhz DDR3
I am very happy for the OP that he got his issues straightened out and realized that an erase, reformat and install of SL solved his problems and was good enough to report it.
Now, for the tough love. To the OP and others, please, please, please, exhaust ALL of your problem solving techniques by either reading here and or just try to figure it out before being so quick to create rant threads and spreading FUD. I honestly don't have an issue if someone needs help (not rant and say that SL is a POS) and the forum doesn't have any existing posts with solutions, but what I get annoyed about here is when newbies come to MR, create and new thread and say, "Well, I was ready to buy xxxMac, but after reading all of these negative threads I'm scared to buy".
I hate when that happens because it's near impossible to get that newbie to believe that most people without issues don't post.
So again, kudos to the OP for at least posting that he solved his issue with SL and the method that did it, ALTHOUGH there are TONS of people that recommend a "Clean Install" and so many forum members are too lazy to do it and would rather continue to rant about problems.
In terms of the upgrade, all 3 of my Macs have a clean install of SL because I always prefer that when doing a major system upgrade and I've had no issues but a friend of mine did the upgrade on 2 of his Macbooks and has zero issues. His computing habits are very basic so his computers do better for an upgrade so the upgrade path will work for some people. SL for me is no different than Leopard or Tiger, Apple has never had instructions on what NOT to do in terms of an upgrade. I have never had a good experience from an upgrade because my computing habits are very complex and a clean install is best.
Now, for the tough love. To the OP and others, please, please, please, exhaust ALL of your problem solving techniques by either reading here and or just try to figure it out before being so quick to create rant threads and spreading FUD. I honestly don't have an issue if someone needs help (not rant and say that SL is a POS) and the forum doesn't have any existing posts with solutions, but what I get annoyed about here is when newbies come to MR, create and new thread and say, "Well, I was ready to buy xxxMac, but after reading all of these negative threads I'm scared to buy".
I hate when that happens because it's near impossible to get that newbie to believe that most people without issues don't post.
So again, kudos to the OP for at least posting that he solved his issue with SL and the method that did it, ALTHOUGH there are TONS of people that recommend a "Clean Install" and so many forum members are too lazy to do it and would rather continue to rant about problems.
In terms of the upgrade, all 3 of my Macs have a clean install of SL because I always prefer that when doing a major system upgrade and I've had no issues but a friend of mine did the upgrade on 2 of his Macbooks and has zero issues. His computing habits are very basic so his computers do better for an upgrade so the upgrade path will work for some people. SL for me is no different than Leopard or Tiger, Apple has never had instructions on what NOT to do in terms of an upgrade. I have never had a good experience from an upgrade because my computing habits are very complex and a clean install is best.
I must say, while I'm sure not everyone will get the same results, I was quite impressed with the upgrade. No problems at all and I like to customize my OS quite a bit and change underlying settings that you can't through the System Preferences. Nothing was affected. I usually do clean installs but I was feeling lazy so I thought I would give it a shot.
I've tried it three different ways.
They'er all identical as far as bugs, incompatibilities, performance increases, and other quirks that should have been caught in any typical beta & regression testing cycle.
I have most of the same issues mentioned in the original post. The difference for me is that none of them are deal-brakers (for me). Annoyances that will likely be gone in another revision or two. Of course one of the issues I seem to have less of (in all three installations) is the application crashing. The SL installer uninstalled most of the incompatible BG stuff. Mostly it feels about the same to me as 10.5.8 (crashing app) stability wise. Close anyway. Maybe more like an un-beta-tested 10.5.9.
Maybe the difference is expectations? I went into SL expecting nothing. I got some kewlness features, a new set of annoying inconveniences (I expect will be gone soon), a terribly slow Safari, and a general performance boost all throughout Finder. If I went into SL expecting a total remake I might be starting threads about my disappointments as well - I dunno.
- Upgrade over OS X 10.5.8.
- Clean install no Migration Assistant.
- Clean install with Migration Assistant.
They'er all identical as far as bugs, incompatibilities, performance increases, and other quirks that should have been caught in any typical beta & regression testing cycle.
I have most of the same issues mentioned in the original post. The difference for me is that none of them are deal-brakers (for me). Annoyances that will likely be gone in another revision or two. Of course one of the issues I seem to have less of (in all three installations) is the application crashing. The SL installer uninstalled most of the incompatible BG stuff. Mostly it feels about the same to me as 10.5.8 (crashing app) stability wise. Close anyway. Maybe more like an un-beta-tested 10.5.9.
Maybe the difference is expectations? I went into SL expecting nothing. I got some kewlness features, a new set of annoying inconveniences (I expect will be gone soon), a terribly slow Safari, and a general performance boost all throughout Finder. If I went into SL expecting a total remake I might be starting threads about my disappointments as well - I dunno.