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Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Hieveryone, Dec 25, 2014.
use on the iPhone 6?
Basically, what is the added benefits of the bigger screen.
How the heck have you been here since last April and haven't read threads on this before?
Every time I use it - its screen is bigger than the iPhone 6 - thats the benefit for me. Every-time!
More enjoyable porn viewing.
Better for watching videos/tv.
Sat navs are easier to follow.
More content on the screen in general.
If you game then obviously it will be better.
Etc. The benefits of a bigger screen are fairly obvious.
Other than the screen, the significantly longer battery life is a big factor for some people. In fact, some members here opted for the 6+ just for the battery life.
Battery life, much improved loudspeaker and bigger screen. They're the positives for me.
The negatives are the larger size and weight...
don't forget the optical image stabilization!
People keep saying this but OIS doesn't make a real-world difference with the iPhone's wide angle lens, even in low light conditions. Contrary to popular belief, OIS isn't used in video and both the 6 and 6+ feature the same Cinematic Video Stabilization.
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I think this whole Video claim is based on the fact that cheaper phones , like the amazon fire phone use a different optical stabilization camera. for example the amazon fire phone keeps its lens open longer., and the amazon fire phone specifically says its optical image stabilization is for single shots.
I've read the patent back in jan 2014 and i believe firmly that the motors and the magnetic field by the ring, is what keeps that lens steady.
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apple posted a support document recently that specically says not to put anything magnetic near the camera lens, because it can interfere with OIS
With iPhone 6 Plus, a metallic case or magnetic lens could interfere with optical image stabilization. If you have a metallic case or magnetic lens attachment, try taking a picture without it. Then compare the quality.
the magnet proves that the OIS feature is on 24/7
gigamon article that mentions magnetic field
since apple says the 5s has Digital Image Stabilization, just like the iPhone 6, i think this video is relevent
a lot of videos I've wathed that show OIS vs DIS just show the guy walking around and not doing anything
like riding a bike or jogging which would prove OIS or DIS is or is not used by video either way
All that support documents from Apple do is prove the existence of OIS in the Plus and that is not in dispute. Whether it makes a real-world difference is another question. I'll be happy to post some side by side photos from a professional review showing no significant real-world difference between the 6 and the 6+ in low light condtions but I'm at a party right now and will do that later.
Yes, both the 6 and 6+ feature enhanced digital video stabilization (termed cinematic video stabilization) to that found in the 5s and it's different from OIS.
i do not want photos.
i want a real world video test of action, like riding a bicycle, skate board, playing soccer, or slow motion shots comparing a 6 to a 6+, to show that the OIS in the 6+ is always on.
maybe a home video version of the speeder bike chase scene in return of the jedi using the iPhone 6+s slow motion or time lapse effects with OIS can be copied
i asked my friend if his iPhone 6 can pick up paperclips. i think he thinks I'm crazy and he hasn't written back yet, on whether not not the iPhone 6 can pick up paperclips.
paper clips = validation of hardware ois
I'm unaware if the magnetic ring can be turned off and on
You're confused. OIS is used in photos. Cinematic Video Stabilization is used in videos. They are not the same thing.
ois or cinematic are both hardware based. it is always on. i don't think they can be turned off. i feel no matter if you are taking pictures or shooting video, they are always being used.
i am not replying unless someone can show proof.
i believe the lens moves when video is being shot. and it keeps your shot steady whether or you are taking pictures or shooting video please post proof otherwise
Here is a YouTube video that compare the 6 and 6+ video. Both phone are mounted on the same rig.
Do you see a difference?
If you are talking about apps, there aren't a whole lot yet that take more advantage of a plus than any other device. So there isn't a whole lot you can do on a plus that can;t be done on another device.
If you doa lot of reading, being news, books, comics, websites, etc. you will have more content per page (content meaning text). Some websites are actually tailored for the plus as well now (though I haven;t really come across many that I would visit frequently).
What are some of the things you use your iPhone 6+ for that you would not be ...
Thanks for posting. That basically shows you they're the same.
I think the only difference you could possibly see is potentially image stabilization. Otherwise, the hardware is identical, AFAIK. Unfortunately the vide test wasn't a great comparison for that as there didn't seem to be a lot of bouncing go on.
For all intents and purposes, in most cases, both devices will perform identically, in theory.
Gaming and videos espcially on the Plus is absolutely fantastically so enjoyable on the Plus's big screen. And plus the battery life is noticeably better and lasts a full day of heavy usage easily
Benefits to me... I'm able to read browser text, email, etc... without using pinch to zoom when I forget to put on my contacts on. I don't take my iPad with me as much when I go out. No need for a portable charger when I go to conferences or vacation.
While there wasn't a lot of bouncing going on, they did shake the rig at the 1:00-1:10 mark (both up and down and sideways movements) and still no difference. They're dead wrong about comparing OIS vs. no OIS. It's actually Cinematic Video Stabilization vs. Cinematic Video Stabilization and given that it's the same in both devices, it follows that there should be no difference and that's what the video shows.
Now, for some actual OIS vs. no OIS comparison in low-light conditions from a professional review:
iPhone 6, no OIS
iPhone 6+ with OIS
iPhone 6, no OIS
iPhone 6+ with OIS
You can see that the 6+ with OIS has a very slight edge in the background of the first photo, but it's not a significant "real-world" difference. People in the photo are still blurry because OIS can only correct for movement on the camera's side; it does nothing for moving subjects causing motion blur. A bigger reason is that the iPhone camera uses a rather wide, fixed lens so you don't see much correction as you would in longer or zoom lenses. There's a reason why Canon and Nikon do not include OIS in their wide angle lenses.
I'm not sure I could say that a single ten second segment (1:00-1:10) of video is good enough to compare image stabilization qualities. The photographer seemed to keep fairly steady throughout recording.
BGR's video review show some pretty clear video differences IMO. I have also seen the differences in our own videos, though our test were nowhere near as controlled as this.
One thing I can definitely agree with is that OIS isn't enough for me to say it's a selling point. Not unless you are planning to take a bunch of running shots with your phone. Maybe it will be better on future iphone releases.
But these are all the opinions of a non camera savvy guy. I point, shoot, and hope it comes out well enough to capture a memory. As such, a professional reciew is exactly what doesn't matter to me; because I'm not a professional and won't ever be looking at the photos or videos I oroduce in that way. If it's not OIS I am referring to here, so be it. The video during jerky or high movement moments in operation tends to come out nicer on the plus for us.
But with it is a general better experience viewing anything, and most importantly, better battery life. That is not something to squander, trust me, as someone who had to charge the 4s a couple times throughout the day the 6 plus will ALWAYS get me through the day. And if you're a lighter user 2 days. I've used the 6 plus today and thought till now without sleep and it's 6 AM. I'm at 62 percent battery.
Watching TV shows and movies. Most of the time I'll use one of my iPads but I don't mind watching stuff on my 6 plus if it's more convenient. I wouldn't on the 6 because of the smaller screen size. I do a lot more web browsing on my plus than I would on a 6. Also due to the excellent battery life on the plus I can use it without worrying about draining my battery.
I've seen that review before and there appears to be excessive play with the iPhone 6 which causes it not to be in the same frame as the 6+, which makes me question their methodology used. I suspect that they rigged the rig (pun intended) out of desperation to produce a result that isn't supposed to be there (due to a lack of understanding that OIS isn't used in video). So a dishonest review and not as controlled as you think.
Also don't be deceived by placebo effects in your own situation. Are you holding the Plus more steadily in your hands while shooting video due to its heavier weight, etc.?
Edit: The one review that correctly calls it digital video stabilization.
Like I said, it's not a controlled test at all. It's a couple videos of us sledding with my son. it was me taking the videos whol me wife pulled him around. I was doing a light jog while she pulled him along. I was honestly more focused on not falling down in ankle high snow than anything else lol. Needless to say, there was a lot of shaking going on while using both devices.
Pictures I don't notice a difference (even in the sample photos you posted to be quite honest). The few videos we took I did, but again, they weren't terribly major (my lumia 920 still blew both phones away IMO). I really have nothing more to add to that statement, honestly.
I have a hard time imagining why a reviewer would set up a comparison video in such a way that one device is falsely favored over another, but I won't say it can't happen because I wouldn't know that.