What are some signs Macbook April refresh is imminent?

[deeddawg]

I think I will wait for benchmark reviews before I decide on this model, or rev. A.

Yes, the benchmarks will be interesting. I suspect (*) any differences will be relatively minor in terms of real-world effect for typical non-powerusers. Enough to make it worth spending a little extra for the 2016 model but not enough to justify upgrading from a 2015 (or turning down a substantial discount on a 2015).

(*) pure speculation on my part

 

[marmiteturkey]

The RMB is perfect as it stands for 2016. It will not be updated.

BJ

Let me be crystal clear. There will be no April update.

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[dogslobber]

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Correct. This isn't an update at all. It is merely a refresh of the rev 1 than the rev 2 Apple is planning. Think of it as a rev1.1. This refresh makes sense in the light of what I previously said about Apple going back to the drawing board after seeing the HP Spectre. Apple pulling the rev2 from the March event now makes sense as they are having to redesign it. This looks like a Plan B now, push out a refreshed rev1 to give them time to redesign the rev2.

 

[marmiteturkey]

Correct. This isn't an update at all. It is merely a refresh of the rev 1 than the rev 2 Apple is planning. Think of it as a rev1.1. This refresh makes sense in the light of what I previously said about Apple going back to the drawing board after seeing the HP Spectre. Apple pulling the rev2 from the March event now makes sense as they are having to redesign it. This looks like a Plan B now, push out a refreshed rev1 to give them time to redesign the rev2.

Of course this is an update, totally in line with most people's expectations - Skylake into the rMB is exactly what most people were expecting in April, nothing more or less.


Do you really believe there was a rev2 planned for March? I don't think many people believe that.

 

[deeddawg]

Do you really believe there was a rev2 planned for March? I don't think many people believe that.

Considering the number of complainers that Apple didn't add a port or include TB3, both of which would require physical redesign of the chassis and logic board, it's clear many were hoping for a revised model rather than a spec bump.

Or perhaps they were just ignorant of what their wishlist involved.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

Correct. This isn't an update at all. It is merely a refresh of the rev 1 than the rev 2 Apple is planning. Think of it as a rev1.1.

Bohoo? How about being a grown up and accept that the "track record" you boast off is wrong? Your ePenis will still be ginormous in two weeks when the internet has forgotten this thread, so dont worry.

 

[dogslobber]

Bohoo? How about being a grown up and accept that the "track record" you boast off is wrong? Your ePenis will still be ginormous in two weeks when the internet has forgotten this thread, so dont worry.

You lose any argument when you resort to this type of response. The fact is I wasn't wrong. I apologize if that upsets you.

 

[PTLove]

Correct. This isn't an update at all. It is merely a refresh of the rev 1 than the rev 2 Apple is planning. Think of it as a rev1.1. This refresh makes sense in the light of what I previously said about Apple going back to the drawing board after seeing the HP Spectre. Apple pulling the rev2 from the March event now makes sense as they are having to redesign it. This looks like a Plan B now, push out a refreshed rev1 to give them time to redesign the rev2.

You cannot be serious here.

 

[dogslobber]

Of course this is an update, totally in line with most people's expectations - Skylake into the rMB is exactly what most people were expecting in April, nothing more or less.


Do you really believe there was a rev2 planned for March? I don't think many people believe that.

The evidence said there was a rev2 at the turn of the year planned for March's keynote but something changed. Now we have this refresh which is not the planned rev2. You have to look at what's not said to join the dots. People are underwhelmed because they registered discontent with Apple's shortcuts in the original design. The only happy people right now are those with 2015 rev1 models who see nothing new in the rev1.1 2016 model.

 

[Samuelsan2001]

Considering the number of complainers that Apple didn't add a port or include TB3, both of which would require physical redesign of the chassis and logic board, it's clear many were hoping for a revised model rather than a spec bump.

Or perhaps they were just ignorant of what their wishlist involved.

Yes they were ignorant of what their wish list involved, no one with an ounce of sense believed Apple would change anything but the processor There is no way Apple were ever going retool all of their production after one year.

 

[redheeler]

Correct. This isn't an update at all. It is merely a refresh of the rev 1 than the rev 2 Apple is planning. Think of it as a rev1.1.

Apple Updates 12-Inch MacBook With Skylake Processors, Faster Graphics, Longer Battery Life, and Rose Gold

Please just admit you were wrong. No one was expecting a full redesign this month, only a minor refresh/update and that's exactly what happened.

This refresh makes sense in the light of what I previously said about Apple going back to the drawing board after seeing the HP Spectre. Apple pulling the rev2 from the March event now makes sense as they are having to redesign it. This looks like a Plan B now, push out a refreshed rev1 to give them time to redesign the rev2.

Apple knows the MacBook is a good consumer Mac even with the shortcomings, and has invested a lot in the current design. It's a very nice design IMO, but isn't intended to fit everyone's use case. They aren't going to redesign it anytime soon.

There's a possibility we might see thinner redesigned rMBPs, though.

 

[in Cider]

Correct. This isn't an update at all. It is merely a refresh of the rev 1 than the rev 2 Apple is planning.

update

• : to make (something) more modern

I would think "refreshing" the cpu, memory, ssd, etc to the most modern version would constitute an update. I believe you may be confusing update with redesign. I'll leave finding the definition of redesign as an exercise for the reader...

 

[duervo]

You cannot be serious here.

Christ, you guys are way too easy. I cannot believe how many people are being hooked by this nonsense. Just put them on ignore and forget about them.

(Not replying to your post for any other reason than it just happened to be the last post on my screen at the time. So, nothing personal.)

 

[PTLove]

Christ, you guys are way too easy. I cannot believe how many people are being hooked by this nonsense. Just put them on ignore and forget about them.

(Not replying to your post for any other reason than it just happened to be the last post on my screen at the time. So, nothing personal.)

I took it very personally. Im hurt.

The thing is, Im not totally convinced hes trolling. Hes clearly lying, but he almost seems to be trying to build up something beyond the normal troll.

Regardless, I agree, its not my problem.

 

[dogslobber]

update

• : to make (something) more modern

I would think "refreshing" the cpu, memory, ssd, etc to the most modern version would constitute an update. I believe you may be confusing update with redesign. I'll leave finding the definition of redesign as an exercise for the reader...

Is it more modern like the HP Spectre? If so then why are Apple scrambling to redesign rev2. It's a refresh. Nothing more.
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Apple Updates 12-Inch MacBook With Skylake Processors, Faster Graphics, Longer Battery Life, and Rose Gold

Please just admit you were wrong. No one was expecting a full redesign this month, only a minor refresh/update and that's exactly what happened.


Apple knows the MacBook is a good consumer Mac even with the shortcomings, and has invested a lot in the current design. It's a very nice design IMO, but isn't intended to fit everyone's use case. They aren't going to redesign it anytime soon.

There's a possibility we might see thinner redesigned rMBPs, though.

There is no right or wrong here. There is only the evidence of what Apple did and didn't do. i.e. no update, just a refresh. If you're arguing that the current rev1.1 "isn't intended to fit everyone's use case", then I'd argue that is incorrect given that the MBA configs have been tweaked and not even refreshed. The MBA is a product coming to the end of life so the replacement model is that neutered rev1.1 model.

This is a massive gap you've identified. Do new buyers go with an aging MBA that isn't gonna get updated, or do they wait for the rev 2 rMB to resolve the glaring deficiencies of the current design?

 

[in Cider]

Is it more modern like the HP Spectre?

Are you referring to the redesigned Spectre? Then, yes it is more modern than it was. See: cpu family, memory speed, ssd speed, etc...

 

[redheeler]

There is no right or wrong here. There is only the evidence of what Apple did and didn't do. i.e. no update, just a refresh. If you're arguing that the current rev1.1 "isn't intended to fit everyone's use case", then I'd argue that is incorrect given that the MBA configs have been tweaked and not even refreshed. The MBA is a product coming to the end of life so the replacement model is that neutered rev1.1 model.

This is a massive gap you've identified. Do new buyers go with an aging MBA that isn't gonna get updated, or do they wait for the rev 2 rMB to resolve the glaring deficiencies of the current design?

There is no massive gap, or proof beyond your speculation that the rMB is being redesigned as a "rev 2". Buyers can either go for the Retina MacBook or Retina MacBook Pro depending on their needs, a redesigned Retina MacBook Pro is due so that may be worth waiting for. The MacBook Air remains a third option for people who don't mind spending less for older tech while the MacBook is still overpriced.

 

[toddzrx]

Is it more modern like the HP Spectre? If so then why are Apple scrambling to redesign rev2. It's a refresh. Nothing more.
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There is no right or wrong here. There is only the evidence of what Apple did and didn't do. i.e. no update, just a refresh. If you're arguing that the current rev1.1 "isn't intended to fit everyone's use case", then I'd argue that is incorrect given that the MBA configs have been tweaked and not even refreshed. The MBA is a product coming to the end of life so the replacement model is that neutered rev1.1 model.

This is a massive gap you've identified. Do new buyers go with an aging MBA that isn't gonna get updated, or do they wait for the rev 2 rMB to resolve the glaring deficiencies of the current design?

Just stop dude. You have no credibility at this point.

 

[smelly cat]

Just stop dude. You have no credibility at this point.

You just summed it up perfectly.

 

[dogslobber]

Just stop dude.

Don't tell me what to do.
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There is no massive gap, or proof beyond your speculation that the rMB is being redesigned as a "rev 2". Buyers can either go for the Retina MacBook or Retina MacBook Pro depending on their needs, a redesigned Retina MacBook Pro is due so that may be worth waiting for. The MacBook Air remains a third option for people who don't mind spending less for older tech while the MacBook is still overpriced.

The retina MacBook is the defacto consumer oriented Mac notebook now. MBA is on its way out. With that reasoning in place, you easily see the shortcomings the rMB has. I refer you back to this refresh when compared to the HP Spectre. It should be pretty obvious what's going on.
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Are you referring to the redesigned Spectre? Then, yes it is more modern than it was. See: cpu family, memory speed, ssd speed, etc...

Now you're playing with words to prove a point (or not?) Bottom line is that Apple has lost the laptop crown to HP right now and is scrambling to rectify the situation. Competition like this is good as it forces a company like Apple that hasn't innovated in the last 5 years to use their brain cells. I'm sure Apple Engineers are up to the challenge now they've got a target to beat and better.

 

[in Cider]

Now you're playing with words to prove a point (or not?)

If duplicating your usage of a word is playing with words, then I would agree.

Bottom line is that Apple has lost the laptop crown to HP right now and is scrambling to rectify the situation. Competition like this is good as it forces a company like Apple that hasn't innovated in the last 5 years to use their brain cells. I'm sure Apple Engineers are up to the challenge now they've got a target to beat and better.

The rMB !~ Hp Spectre, this should be readily apparent they are targeting different segments of the market. That said, I would agree the Spectre has a huge lead on the MBA, which is targeting the same segment.

 

[Biggie Robs]

The evidence said there was a rev2 at the turn of the year planned for March's keynote but something changed. Now we have this refresh which is not the planned rev2. You have to look at what's not said to join the dots. People are underwhelmed because they registered discontent with Apple's shortcuts in the original design. The only happy people right now are those with 2015 rev1 models who see nothing new in the rev1.1 2016 model.

I bought an early 2015 rMB ten days ago and loved it to death. I exchanged it today for the early 2016 model. I'm happy.

 

[boltjames]

The evidence said there was a rev2 at the turn of the year planned for March's keynote but something changed. Now we have this refresh which is not the planned rev2. You have to look at what's not said to join the dots. People are underwhelmed because they registered discontent with Apple's shortcuts in the original design. The only happy people right now are those with 2015 rev1 models who see nothing new in the rev1.1 2016 model.

+1

I agree. Pinky is a "transitional" model, not different enough from the Gen 1 and lacking all the good features coming in September in the Gen 2.

I feel bad for those buying Pinky this week; they really should wait. HD cam, 4K compatibility, second USB-C port, it's all right around the corner.

BJ

 

[Biggie Robs]

+1

I agree. Pinky is a "transitional" model, not different enough from the Gen 1 and lacking all the good features coming in September in the Gen 2.

I feel bad for those buying Pinky this week; they really should wait. HD cam, 4K compatibility, second USB-C port, it's all right around the corner.

BJ

Maybe I've misunderstood, but your advice has been to not wait for an update. One week ago your advice was to buy the rMB, right?

Now that it's been updated people should wait for the next update?