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What are the rumors and leaks for the next 16" MacBook Pro?
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It's a matter of opinion I guess but in terms of function, the touch bar does not advance the ball -- at least so far. More importantly, it needlessly drives up the costs of these machines and is a non starter for touch typists. At best, it should be an option or upgrade. Also, as far as I know, there is no other company that has followed Apple's footsteps on this kind of thing. The Asus implementation is a secondary screen -- not really the same thing.
A lot of Dell's are high on the compatibility list for Hackintoshes, so it quite possibly does run MacOS!
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I can't comment on current Dells, but I had a Dell before I moved to Apple, and it was a very reliable machine that I used for many years. It had a similar lifetime to any MBP I've had since.
Can you give pics or greater detail ? Haven't heard of this before and may be upgrading in the next year or so. How bad of an issue is this....? When/ on what types of applications is it most pronounced? Thanks.....
You can look up any in-depth display review for this model (notebookcheck has one for instance). The response time of these displays is indeed subpar. Then again, it’s the same for any other high-resolution, high quality display on the market.
People are little dramatic here.
Any laptop will have a fan go off when running 4K external. I would like to see the workload first (background too) before completely dismissing this thing.
It's thermodynamics. Heats up so you gotta keep it cooler but not much space for that so gotta get the fan going and voila. It's running. i9 is a hot chip.
Get a 1.18" thick alienware with all the bells and whistles and let me know how "quiet" it is lol. My kid has one. Not only the laptop is THICK and has a very sophisticated cooling system it is also loud the difference is people here for some reason want power and silence. Or rather magic. It doesn't work like that.
People have expectations first then cry later - obsession about zillions of Intel CPU cores without thinking about consequences. I am not a fan of increasing size and weight to 2kgs of MBP 15 because it is against want we called "mobility" and it is step backward. I remember Intel 7.5W U processors (possibly 7100U series) and it was a right direction to decrease wattage significantly offering reasonable performance for day to day work. Of course Apple together with AMD shall think about a solution for this problem but I am a realist. The only reasonable solution is to buy another laptop that does not have this problem. But do not expect that it does not have any other hardware/software anomalies.
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The temps don't matter as long as they're below the throttling threshold and the fans aren't running constantly.
Idle CPU temps in the 60-70 are perfectly normal for a laptop. It would be a waste of power and extra noise to run the fans higher to arbitrarily keep the CPU cooler. It's fine.
Running a 4K display shouldn't be spinning the fans up. I run a 5K display all day every day and the fans only spin up audibly when I'm actively compiling something or doing another CPU-intensive task.
I do not agree with the notion that increasing size is a step backward. My opinion is that Apple really should have a line of so-called mobile laptops and another line of "desktop replacement" type laptops for power users that just do not require the same level of mobility. Today, Apple tries to be all things to all people with essentially a one type of laptop that serves the mobility crowd -- albeit a mobility light version and a prosumer version. Apple is virtually the only major laptop producer with such a limited product line.
4K monitor is still unpopular and unrealistic due to its hardware requirement. Do you know that even RTX 2080 TI struggle with 4K gaming?
Also, I don't see any advantage of using 4K on a small display. Using a 4K monitor will consume more power than before.
OLED is not a future tech because it has some serious issues which can not be fixed. That's why both mini-LED and micro-LED are being developed. Micro-LED can replace OLED for 100% but not now. You probably gonna suffer from burn-in with OLED. Btw, OLED display isn't even popular but limited even for desktop monitors.
I still remember the LG vs Samsung panels on the original 15" Retina from 2012 on this forum. OLED burn in would provide weeks of entertaining reading and posting here.
I get my fans going on full blast as soon as I plug up my crappy 1080p external monitor for utility reasons, on 100% idle.
16" MBP 5300m
Ready to pull the trigger on a 16”.
Hopefully next gen isn’t only a minor spec bump 10th gen cpu, faster ram, faster intel graphics.
Must have mini led display, 90hz-120hz refresh rate, WiFi 6, or ill be keeping my 2016 13” until they add them features. 😕
Face ID would be the icing on the cake, knowing apple that’s probably 10 years away. 😂
Hopefully next gen isn’t only a minor spec bump 10th gen cpu, faster ram, faster intel graphics.
Must have mini led display, 90hz-120hz refresh rate, WiFi 6, or ill be keeping my 2016 13” until they add them features. 😕
Face ID would be the icing on the cake, knowing apple that’s probably 10 years away. 😂
Appel doesn't believe in "desktop replacements". This should be rather clear by the fact that they have never offered one in their entire history (maybe except while Jobs was kicked, I am not too aware of how the product line was then). Desktop replacements are a very niche market and they go opposite to Apple's laptop vision (a well-built jack of all trades computer that are very mobile and have full day battery life). This is at least what Apple has consistently in the last 15 years and I think its unlikely that this basic vision will change any time soon — especially given the fact that desktop replacement machines are much rarer now than 10 yeas ago.
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Wouldn't hold my breath this year. Display tech is not ready yet and fast WiFi-6 configs are still probably a year away. Not the the second one matters. In practical terms, the WiFi-5 setup on the 16" is just as fast as the WiFi-6 on any other laptop (unless you are literally sitting on top of a very good WiFi-6 router).
If you buy from refurb store you are saving $300-400. It will not be any worse in 3 years than it is now.
I don't think that our opinions have to be contradictory. The thing about about Apple is that they don't offer options for everyone. They offer a small selection of "curated" options that they believe to be "best" (whatever it means). So if you need a powerful laptop — Apple has nothing for you.
I think its quite the opposite — Apple is in their current position precisely because they are opinionated. Of course it makes some users unhappy, but so far it seems to be working out well for Apple. I also don't believe that increasing the Mac market share is a primary goal for Apple. They are quite comfortable with their 10%. They don't target the "normal" customer — they target the premium end of the market. And there Macs are quite strong.
They sure are, but that is not the market Apple is targeting.
They have increased the thickness by whopping 0.7mm... mainly to accommodate for a bigger battery. I think you are reading too much into this. The 16" is not any different from the 15" it replaces. Spiritually, they are still the same machine, the 16" just implements some minor tweaks to better accommodate Intel's lack of engineering progress. But its still the same laptop the first MacBook Pro was 14 years ago... take fastest CPUs on the market, a mid-range 50W GPU, pair it with a full-day battery, and make it as thin and compact as you can.