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Musically speaking, they're not. What's the real difference between Blink 182, Coldplay, and Kings of Convenience? Not as much as you'd think, and yet someone said Blink 182 is/was original.

That is just 3 well known bands brought up in 15 posts on a Mac forum. There is lots of creative original music being made today. Not just by Buck 65 either:rolleyes:
 
Well I only mentioned those ones because they're really well known, as you said. ;)

I'd throw Animal Collective into the list as well, which is a band you mentioned. It's also what I'm currently listening to right now (specifically, the song "Bluish"). Doesn't make them bad, and it doesn't mean you can't get really great songs, but exactly what is original about them from a musical aspect, or even a style aspect? Like Lizkat said, there's really a limited range of chords and melodies that all bands use, and Animal Collective isn't doing anything here that's musically original. But again, it depends on what you're calling "original".

Animal Collective is good. Love the new album, just like I enjoyed Sung Tongs, Strawberry Jam, etc. ;) All of this is pop music anyway, and that sort of the point of pop music........ simplification, repetition within songs, etc. If it wasn't for the rise of pop, we'd all be listening to whatever iJohnHenry still listens to. :p
 
Actually, I agree with him. Indie rock can sound very alike. "Indie rock" used to refer to rock bands that were signed to independent record labels. By that definition, even the Jonas Brothers could technically become indie rock if Subpop had a temporary mental breakdown and told them "Ah, why the **** not. I'll sign ya to a contract. Besides, their mum is hot." Signing to an independent label should not be an indication of the style of music to expect from them. But that's really not the case. To most people, it just doesn't "sound" like indie rock, their fans don't dress like indie kids, and.....uh......something to do with the radio play they get. ;)

Unfortunately, the term stopped having any meaning when people started associating a particular "sound", and style of dress, to indie rock/music. That's when you know that the term "indie rock/music" is now just a convenient way to label an overall style.

Since the term "indie" does carry certain connotations in terms of style and sound, then it's probably true that Indie Rock sounds similar in many ways, just like mainstream rock sounds similar in many ways. They sound different from each other, though.

Yes...but...you didnt answer the question. I agree that its an amorphous term, which is why I wanted some specific bands to see what he meant.
 
My brother gave me two CDs, one was Editors and the other Interpol. A week later, I still couldn't tell the difference between the two bands.
When I say indie rock, I'm not suggesting it's a genre, but around here, everyone does. Think slightly distorted guitars, wild drums and squeaky vocals. And British accents, don't forget those.
 
I'll probably get flamed for this, but: Velvet Revolver. No matter how many times I try to listen to them, they just sound like the same recycled rock music that's been a mainstay since the late 80s.

Yes, all the pop stuff. Whatever that crap is that my wife has playing in the car...


You hear recycled 80's rock music, because that is really all it is. I am sure RV was more of a PR promotion then some buddies getting together to make music. The money was in everyone's mind from the start. I do feel your pain though, I tried to listen and I really tried to like it, just could not do it.

Much like the latest Atmosphere CD. I really tried listening, and really tried liking it, but the more an more I listen the more and more I got upset by the crappy Kanye West sound they were going for. Trying to separate them from all the rest by doing a bad job at ripping off the west coast. damn it, now I'm mad again.
 
I definitely agree with U2. Their early stuff, to me, was very original and unlike other bands. However, since Joshua Tree, it appears to me that they have tried to sound like roots style American bands.

I don't know if U2 wanted to sound like a retro American rock band, or just wanted to try and get as far away from their old stuff as possible.

Totally agree - U2 haven't produced anything worthwhile since 1986.
 
Isn't most every band derivative these days? As soon as one artist steps outside the norm and a record exec takes notice, up crop another 100 bands that emulate the 'hot new sound.' As soon as we get the old record business machine out of the way and give music revenue back to the srtists, maybe we'll see artists resist the labels and make what they love more, and make what they think will sell, less.
 
Coldplay and Oasis both have a formulaic sound to them – you hear one song, you have a good idea what the next will sound like.


I'd suggest listening to Viva La Vida again if you have not yet...and comparing it to their older stuff...very different
 
Thank you. Let's also not forget the early days of Green Day. That was bad stuff. They have since redeemed themselves.

Oh god- and The Offspring. UGH!

I never liked Green Day, having said that I absolutely hate their new stuff. Their old stuff wasn't bad, but it wasn't anything special.

Off the top of my head I'd say the most unoriginal are:
  • Cold Play
  • Blink 182
  • Green Day
  • 50 Cent (as far as rap goes, I like to keep it with Snoop, Dre and Eminem)
  • HelloGoodbye
  • Kanye West (blech)
  • Metro Station

My list of original bands is as follows:
  • Animal Collective
  • Blonde Redhead
  • Crystal Castles
  • Explosions in the Sky
  • The Faint
  • Marigold
  • My Bloody Valentine
  • The Presets
  • Pretty Girls Make Graves
  • Prince
  • Röyksopp
  • The Unicorns
 
i would have to say that Béla Fleck & The Flecktones are probably one of the most original bands i have ever heard. the talent in that band is just incredible. Béla is probably the only banjo player i can listen to for any extended period of time (sorry all you banjo enthusiasts). Have any of you ever heard of Morphine? they are pretty original and very very good. And the Swedish band Urban Turban is another great and very original group.

U2 stopped being good for me as soon as Bono said Uno, Dos, Tres, Catorce. that just pissed me off to no end for some reason.
 
if you hear a band on the radio, they are unoriginal.

every 'rock' station plays the same songs over and over. with the back of the throat creed style vocals that i absolutely hate.

every pop station plays breath-ey girl vocalists talking about something good

every rap station plays through a talk box + talks about how they lvoe some girl's body.

when i think of unoriginal, i think of mainstream
 
if you hear a band on the radio, they are unoriginal.

every 'rock' station plays the same songs over and over. with the back of the throat creed style vocals that i absolutely hate.

every pop station plays breath-ey girl vocalists talking about something good

every rap station plays through a talk box + talks about how they lvoe some girl's body.

when i think of unoriginal, i think of mainstream

are you the type of person who stops listening to a band if everyone else starts listening to them?
 
My brother gave me two CDs, one was Editors and the other Interpol. A week later, I still couldn't tell the difference between the two bands.
When I say indie rock, I'm not suggesting it's a genre, but around here, everyone does. Think slightly distorted guitars, wild drums and squeaky vocals. And British accents, don't forget those.

Yes I did. From how I interpret the statement, which is musically speaking, then nothing out there today, last decade, the decade before that, or even the decade before that, was original.
 
Oh!
and of course Angels and Airwaves. They are easily one of the worst and most unoriginal bands that I have ever had the displeasure of listening to.
 
I came to see how long it would take to mention U2. About as quick as any related topic on Fark I guess.

I would agree but to me U2 lost it when after Zooropa. Everything since has been drifting farther and farther from the sound that made them what they were. I miss the old U2 from the very early stuff. I still have my Red Rocks ticket stub from 1983 by the way.

Then again, with the changes in Ireland U2 did lose some of the inspiration for their earlier work though that seems to be conveniently forgotton.
 
Radiohead are totally original. nobody ever sounded like them before because nobody had the balls to experiment with music like they do. There are countless bands to date that keep trying to be as good as Radiohead but nobody has suceeded.
 
The majority of post 2000 indie bands (especially indie bands from 2005-7), they all have the same sound, it's infuriating, a genre generally has a broad range of sounds and sub genres where necessary, but there's several bands that could all switch places, and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference... I would post names but I really didn't pay attention to them when I heard their songs.

Of note, I don't hate indie bands, I used to be a massive indie fan, but then there was a massive influx of bands that where very much identical and I got fed up of the genre.

Yes, with the exception of Grizzly Bear. Their last one was incredible.

Radiohead are totally original. nobody ever sounded like them before because nobody had the balls to experiment with music like they do. There are countless bands to date that keep trying to be as good as Radiohead but nobody has suceeded.

Oh please. You don't know much about music. Lots of people have been there before. Radiohead was just the first band to make it popular.
 
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