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MartinAppleGuy

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Going to pick up a 256GB iPad Pro 12.9 inch 2017 Pro as soon as the back to school offers start in the UK, and I was wondering what I need to buy to get fast charging. Is it the 29 watt charger then a 1/2m USB C to lightning cable? Could someone give the links to the Apple Store so I get the right ones?
 

akash.nu

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The cable doesn't make that much of a difference as long as you have the correct charging brick you should be good. As is Apple doesn't support the "quick charge" technology as such. So as long as you're using the correct charger you're getting optimal charge.
 

LiveWireless

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The cable doesn't make that much of a difference as long as you have the correct charging brick you should be good. As is Apple doesn't support the "quick charge" technology as such. So as long as you're using the correct charger you're getting optimal charge.
Completely False!
Currently the cable is the most important item. Be sure to get an Apple USB-C to Lightning cable, no 3rd-Party ones. You can get the Apple charge Adapter, but there are some 3rd-Party ones that work as well.

See this thread for tests and detailed information.
 

Evan becker

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I can confirm that a USB-C to lightning apple cable and an aukey USB-C 29W charger does fast charge. The aukey brick is linked in the other thread linked by LiveWireless. the aukey is 17 and the apple cable you can get for ~13 on ebay so I spent 30 dollars on fast charging rather than the 70 or so you would need to spend if you got all of it from apple.
 

Cashmonee

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I got the Anker brick for $20ish, and it seems to work fine. Then the Apple cable from Apple. I normally always buy Apple branded accessories for things like power, but in this case the premium was just too much.
 

MartinAppleGuy

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I bought the official 29W Apple charger and 2m USB c to lightning cable :) Ended up just ordering the iPad Pro 256GB 12.9, Smart Keyboard and pencil while I was at it :)
 

akash.nu

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Completely False!
Currently the cable is the most important item. Be sure to get an Apple USB-C to Lightning cable, no 3rd-Party ones. You can get the Apple charge Adapter, but there are some 3rd-Party ones that work as well.

See this thread for tests and detailed information.

I don't get this, how does a cable make any difference? Surely it's down to the level of current being passed via the charger. Most cables will carry the amount of current no matter what. I will have a read though.
 

Evan becker

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I bought the official 29W Apple charger and 2m USB c to lightning cable :) Ended up just ordering the iPad Pro 256GB 12.9, Smart Keyboard and pencil while I was at it :)

congrats man you will love it. The first time I was fast charging my ipad I was in shock how fast it chagred it. Went from 28-92% in just over an hour. Absolutley ridiculous. would have taken 5 hours with the OG charger
 
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Completely False!
Currently the cable is the most important item. Be sure to get an Apple USB-C to Lightning cable, no 3rd-Party ones. You can get the Apple charge Adapter, but there are some 3rd-Party ones that work as well.

See this thread for tests and detailed information.

Hmmm.... lol, nobody is completely false, just both partially false!
The cable must be a certified PD (power delivery)... I believe Anker sells one.
I personally got the USB-C to lightning cable from Apple & the brick from Anker.
Working swell! =)
 

masotime

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I don't get this, how does a cable make any difference? Surely it's down to the level of current being passed via the charger. Most cables will carry the amount of current no matter what. I will have a read though.

Well the cable has to be thicker to pass in the higher power safely at a minimum. However I think the issue could possibly be due to the fact that the other end is a lightning connector, rather than USB-C. Lightning cables have their own microchip - since USB-C PD requires power negotiation, it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility that the chip used in Apple's USB-C to lightning cable has a slightly different variant of the normal microchip in USB-A to Lightning cables.
 
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Ghost31

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I bought the official 29W Apple charger and 2m USB c to lightning cable :) Ended up just ordering the iPad Pro 256GB 12.9, Smart Keyboard and pencil while I was at it :)
Congrats! Don't forget to come back and tell us how much you love it
 

MartinAppleGuy

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Congrats! Don't forget to come back and tell us how much you love it
Oh I will Got the wallet ready to buy Coda for the iPad, and I've already been using this app on my iPhone where I am able to get full chrome dev tools running in safari just through an extention! So excited, 1-2 week delivery tho
 

Peter K.

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Hmmm.... lol, nobody is completely false, just both partially false!
The cable must be a certified PD (power delivery)... I believe Anker sells one.
I personally got the USB-C to lightning cable from Apple & the brick from Anker.
Working swell! =)
I have not yet seen any evidence supporting the claim that any cable other than Apple OEM will fast charge an iPad Pro.
 

LiveWireless

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I bought the official 29W Apple charger and 2m USB c to lightning cable :) Ended up just ordering the iPad Pro 256GB 12.9, Smart Keyboard and pencil while I was at it :)
You did good. When you are in a hurry the fast charge is very nice, 1% a minute to 50% then it slows down.

I don't get this, how does a cable make any difference? Surely it's down to the level of current being passed via the charger. Most cables will carry the amount of current no matter what. I will have a read though.
Because cables are not just cables anymore, the good old simple days are gone. They are cables with chips and an resistors and if you don't have the right stuff you have compatibility issues.

Hmmm.... lol, nobody is completely false, just both partially false!
The cable must be a certified PD (power delivery)... I believe Anker sells one.
I personally got the USB-C to lightning cable from Apple & the brick from Anker.
Working swell! =)
You can believe that... and one day it will be true... but there is no reason to believe today is the day.
 

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You did good. When you are in a hurry the fast charge is very nice, 1% a minute to 50% then it slows down.


Because cables are not just cables anymore, the good old simple days are gone. They are cables with chips and an resistors and if you don't have the right stuff you have compatibility issues.


You can believe that... and one day it will be true... but there is no reason to believe today is the day.

https://9to5toys.com/2016/04/28/anker-usb-charger-macbook-ipad-pro/
https://9to5mac.com/2015/05/22/anker-usb-c-cables-lightning/

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I have not yet seen any evidence supporting the claim that any cable other than Apple OEM will fast charge an iPad Pro.


https://9to5toys.com/2016/04/28/anker-usb-charger-macbook-ipad-pro/
https://9to5mac.com/2015/05/22/anker-usb-c-cables-lightning/
 

Peter K.

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The second article posted above is two years old; the cables mentioned therein are not only NOT power delivery (PD) specified, but they are only USB 2.0 and definitely won't fast charge an iPad Pro.
 

fitshaced

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Why not the 87w charger for the iPad? No extra different in speed of charging?
 

masotime

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I literally commented in that very article that the claim is false, did the same in the Amazon review thread. If you want updated statistics on 29W fast charging and compatible adapters, please go to this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/29w-fast-charging-tests-and-3rd-party-adapters.2052414/


12.9" 1st generation iPad Pro release date: September 2015
The article you linked: May 2015, 4 months earlier than the existence of the iPad Pro.
 
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I literally commented in that very article that the claim is false, did the same in the Amazon review thread. If you want updated statistics on 29W fast charging and compatible adapters, please go to this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/29w-fast-charging-tests-and-3rd-party-adapters.2052414/



12.9" 1st generation iPad Pro release date: September 2015
The article you linked: May 2015, 4 months earlier than the existence of the iPad Pro.

Thank you.
I have an Apple cable & a 30w PD compliant Anker wall wart... works BEAUTIFULLY!
Probably not replacing any time soon... just wanted to let ppl know it doesn’t HAVE to be all Apple only goodies.
There’s some quality aftermarket out there! Apologies if the link I posted had false info; again- thanks for clarifying.
 
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danniexi

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I don't get this, how does a cable make any difference? Surely it's down to the level of current being passed via the charger. Most cables will carry the amount of current no matter what. I will have a read though.
For what it's worth, there are no MFi USB-C to Lightning cables in the market except for those made by Apple themselves. No idea why. Third party cables definitely exist in the market but are not MFi certified. Whether they support fast charging and whether they are safe for use on iOS devices is up to your discretion. But you can best guarantee that if something *were* to happen, then you would be responsible for damages/warranty issues.

Power bricks shouldn't be an issue. It's finding the right usb-c power brick + cable that is compatible with the iPad. There aren't many.
 
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