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portent said:
People of Ben Franklin's generation discovered electricity. People of Thomas Edison's invented it.


Not quite:

According to Thales of Miletus, writing circa 600 BCE, a form of electricity was known to the Ancient Greeks, who found that rubbing fur on various substances, such as amber, would cause a particular attraction between the two. The Greeks noted that the amber buttons could attract light objects such as hair, and that if they rubbed the amber for long enough, they could even get a spark to jump. This is the origin of the word "electricity", from the Greek ?lektron = "amber", which came from an old root ?lek- = "shine".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity

If that doesn't count as discovery, then I don't know what does. Benjamin Franklin was a pioneer in discovering practical applications along with some of his earlier contemporaries.

In 1600 the English scientist William Gilbert returned to the subject in De Magnete, and coined the modern Latin word electricus from ???????? (elektron), the Greek word for "amber", which soon gave rise to the English words electric and electricity. He was followed in 1660 by Otto von Guericke, who is regarded as having invented an early electrostatic generator. Other European pioneers were Robert Boyle, who in 1675 stated that electric attraction and repulsion can act across a vacuum; Stephen Gray, who in 1729 classified materials as conductors and insulators; and C. F. Du Fay, who first identified the two types of electricity that would later be called positive and negative. The Leyden jar, a type of capacitor for electrical energy in large quantities, was invented at Leiden University by Pieter van Musschenbroek in 1745. William Watson, experimenting with the Leyden jar, discovered in 1747 that a discharge of static electricity was equivalent to an electric current.
 
So many things that revolutionized our modern world, but I'd choose:

electricity
autos and air travel
television
telephone
plumbing

Key honoroary mention to two items in the health and medical field: penicillin and contraception.

Computers and the internet likely rank awfully high with the younger generation (I love 'em, too), but the others seem to have more fundamental status to life as most people in the older demographic might acknowledge. Nevertheless, an interesting question.
 
future invention

dr dean edell, abc news radio (and others), mentions that a weight loss pill without any bad side effects would grant the inventor a nobel

...and it would rank as the best medical discovery...ever...and i tend to agree having seen a lot of misery working in a hospital

the big and nearly unbeatable killers are heart disease, cancer, stroke, and diabetes and all of them are tied in with obesity, overeating, and high cholesterol in one form or another...and they are often preventable diseases which often rely a lot on our frail human willpower and therefore those diseases beat us most of the time

the bacterial and viral diseases get beat one after another because our modern technology allows us to do so, and because we are not fighting our human, and self destructive bad habits in our eating and lack of exercise

basically, obesity is the last major hurdle in modern medicine and a safe and easy way to fight it is not here yet
 
great irony

one thing i think is ironic is that the first major human invention, and perhaps the most important one so far (agriculture), is tied in with our biggest problem today (imho) of obesity

in our first 100,000 years or so, as hunter-gatherers, we never ate enough to cause any obesity related problems, but now that agriculture has given us a plentiful and relatively inexpensive food source, the human race (including up and coming countries like mexico, china, and india) are increasingly going to be fighting the battle of the bulge...and the diseases which come with it

the body count from stuffing our faces is totally unprecedented and will be worse as time goes on...omg, now i am depressed and i feel like a big mac ;)
 
skunk said:
Hunting and Gathering has Agriculture beat. Agriculture is such hard work.

As long as you're happy being five feet tall, wearing deerskins, and living to be 45 if you're lucky. :D (I do agree with the link between the model of agrarian culture and some of our problems today, though, FWIW).
 
portent said:
People of Ben Franklin's generation discovered electricity. People of Thomas Edison's invented it.
You have to define what you mean by electricity; "static" charges or controlled transmission. Static discharge was known and used for the past 2600 years or so (Greek, Persian), and reintroduced to western science about 150 years before Franklin by Gilbert (English).

Franklin (American) made some valuable observations and established the principle that electricity was the transfer of a charge from one object to another. But didn't 'discover' it by any stretch.

What about harnessing and using electricity? Given that Alessandro Volta (Italian) built the first battery and described the transmission of electricity between two terminals of differing potential in 1800 and Michael Faraday (English) the first dynamo (generator) around 1831, considerably after Franklin, I would give them the vote.

Nikolai Tesla (Serbian) invented alternating current, and in the USA, Westinghouse Co. owned the patents and Thomas Edison famously waged a bitter battle against the adoption of AC in favor of DC (which his company could make the lion's share of money on). Edison lost.


edit... ah dang it all. BV is much faster than I am...

But I remain fascinated with the myth that Americans and American Industry created the bulk of technological progress in the world.
 
ELECTRICITY AIN'T AN INVENTION! That's like saying we invented wood. Sure maybe we discovered that it could be useful, and we discovered how to use it, or invented ways to use it, but both wood and electricity were there long before we started building picket fences and pop up toasters.

okay, here's my list:
-BICYCLE! so sweet. much sweeter than cars, though cars are pretty sweet too. I guess you'd have to give props to all the inventions that made way for bicycles, like wheels, bearings, chain drives, gel seats...
-windows... could you imagine either having no natural light in your house or having big ass holes in the walls during the winter?! sh**, that would suck.
-radio transmission, as in, sending any kind of signals through the air, that's a pretty big deal
-the Wah-Wah pedal, wow chicka wow wow
-Montreal bagels... everybody talks about NY bagels or Toronto bagels without realizing that all bagels outside of montreal are essentially the same thing. Sure some are better than others, but they're all pretty much fat bread with a whole. If ever you visit montreal, look for St Viateur Bagel, REAL Bagel, or Fairmount Bagel, and get 'em fresh. There's a smaller one called DAD's Bagels and they're open 24 hours and also have homemade indian food. Anyways, Montreal Bagels! They're a whole other species, and i live off of them.
 
CanadaRAM said:
Thomas Edison famously waged a bitter battle against the adoption of AC in favor of DC (which his company could make the lion's share of money on). Edison lost.
Not really: they named the capital district after his system, after all.
 
jeffy.dee-lux said:
-radio transmission, as in, sending any kind of signals through the air, that's a pretty big deal
By your definition, that isn't an invention either. Quasars, Pulsars, and radioactive minerals show prior art.
 
jeffy.dee-lux said:
...
-windows... could you imagine either having no natural light in your house or having big ass holes in the walls during the winter?! sh**, that would suck.
...


muahaha, i bet y'all were thinking i was talking about a different windows...
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Nanotechnology is going to be huge. ;)

Haha! Get it. Nanotechnology is going to be Huge?

Lets see. Top 5 for me would be

Chemotherapy (My little brother has leukimia, this stuff works wonders:))
Light (Don't know what I'd do without it, I love light!)
Art (Who doesn't like art? Was art invented?)
Computers (I wouldn't be typing my top 5 inventions list right now if I didn't have one)
Music (Music's pretty cool)
 
skunk said:
By your definition, that isn't an invention either. Quasars, Pulsars, and radioactive minerals show prior art.


haha, alright, you got me... how bout the invention of the things that can transmit and receive radio signals?
 
flyfish29 said:
Fridge (for the next one)
Ice cream

That's an interesting place to put ice cream. Personally, I prefer mine frozen.

My top 5 unmentioned inventions would be:

1. Hockey
2. Cellphone
3. Airplane
4. Condom
5. iPod
 
jeffy.dee-lux said:
-windows... could you imagine either having no natural light in your house or having big ass holes in the walls during the winter?! sh**, that would suck.

This is conjuring up all kinds of interesting and largely undesired imagery in my mind. :eek:
 
mkrishnan said:
Originally Posted by jeffy.dee-lux
-windows... could you imagine either having no natural light in your house or having big ass holes in the walls during the winter?! sh**, that would suck.
This is conjuring up all kinds of interesting and largely undesired imagery in my mind. :eek:
I think the original poster is confused; big ass holes in the walls refers more to the lack of indoor plumbing than the lack of windowglass....
 
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