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What grinds your gears in Mavericks?

I'm using Mavericks with a 5,400 RPM drive. Boot times are around a minute, maybe a minute and a half. Acceptable, honestly. Windows 7 takes about as long to boot.

Only real gripe I have with Mavericks is that it seems to take System Preferences a full minute to open. Everything else opens lightning fast, except System Preferences.

For those wondering, this is on a 13 inch early 2011 MacBook.
 
My issues are mostly GUI related. I hate the grey/bland icons in the toolbars and sidebars. If I wanted a NeXT computer I would have bought one!
 
What grinds my gears in 10.9?

How inconsistent it seems. It kind of feels like one day, Mavericks is working well, no weird quirks or slow performance. It's working normally. Next day, it's sluggish, slow, and has weird quirks. It's like the OS has mood swings, depending on the day. Doesn't feel very stable, IMHO.

FWIW, the same behavior was seen with ML.
 
a104375 said:
When I switched to Mavericks there were a few things that really made me dislike the OS compared to Snow Leopard, but I decided to make the jump because there were so many things that no longer would run.

So what made you move and what grinds your gears with Mavericks?
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The main factor driving my upgrade to 10.9 was OpenGL 4.1! The gains in 3D game performance were even better than I hoped, and any problems I've had with my system since were user error. 🙂 (I recently did a clean re-install of 10.9.2 to solve a performance issue brought about by my own mistakes).
 
Photo sharing between users

My one issue, and it's not limited to 10.9 specifically, is that Apple still hasn't figured out a proper way to share a photo library between users on the internal drive. 🙁

FFS, even Windows XP has easy and functional photo library sharing between users.

For us OSX users needing to do that, we still have to go through the hassle of putting our entire library on an external HD that's free of any ownership or permissions and to also make sure that drive is not used for Time Machine backups. I was really hoping 10.9 would fix this but maybe 10.10 will, or 10.11..... 😎
 
Inconsistent performance and glitches on ATI hardware, slower finder, slower preview, VERY LARGE memory footprint, SMB issues, can't keep a window across multiple monitors (fades on inactive ones), incompatibility with all Maya versions for rendering jobs (recent 2015 release partially fix it but there are issues still, its the bloody memory management that craps out render jobs out of nothing).
 
KoolAid-Drink said:
What grinds my gears in 10.9?

How inconsistent it seems. It kind of feels like one day, Mavericks is working well, no weird quirks or slow performance. It's working normally. Next day, it's sluggish, slow, and has weird quirks. It's like the OS has mood swings, depending on the day. Doesn't feel very stable, IMHO.

FWIW, the same behavior was seen with ML.
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Precisely my points of contention. On the contrary, I have a machine with Mountain Lion and it runs rock solid. My Mavericks machine, however, I can never guess what mood it's going to be in.
 
I've launched Xcode and then I came to MacRumors to see new posts. The Xcode icon is still bouncing (now you know how fast it is 🙂)

I have a dozen of music tracks that I made with Garageband previously. Non of them works with the new version because almost all sound packs have been made paid. 50% of the time I spent with Garageband I spend watching the beach ball rotating.

Update: Xcode icon just stopped bouncing. There is no blue light below the icon and it just stays in the dock (just like normal doc icons, although I didn't have place the Xcode in the dock) and clicking on it doesn't do anything.

This is just what I went through in the last 15 minutes.

Update 2: Re-launched Xcode and the same thing happened.

Apart from those problems that I'm experiencing right now, below is a list of things that I hate about Mavericks.

TextEdit takes too long to launch.

When the mac is sleeping and I press a key to wake it up, it shows the login screen before the password text field is ready to take any inputs. When I try to type my password, the login screen stays frozen for a second or two and starts taking inputs (ignoring first few characters in the password that causes a failed login attempt)

After I type something into spotlight and select an entry and press return key to open it, spotlight still continues the search and suddenly re-populate the list with new items. I ended up opening the wrong app.
 
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Looks like we've got quite a few ground gears here! I have to say my biggest issue right now, is VPN related with the server, everything worked before the last server update and now everything that was working broke, I just don't understand how that happens...
 
Exactly. This is meant as absolutely no offense to women on this board, but Mavericks kind of reminds me of a cranky mom on PMS who alternates from being extremely helpful and pleasant to being downright stubborn/grumpy.

NP Hard said:
Precisely my points of contention. On the contrary, I have a machine with Mountain Lion and it runs rock solid. My Mavericks machine, however, I can never guess what mood it's going to be in.
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I wonder if any other versions of Mac OS were as "moody" as Mavericks. ML wasn't bad, but I did notice a bit of grumpiness sometimes. I wonder if Lion/Leopard/Tiger/Panther had the same issues as Mavericks during their early (.0/.1/.2) releases - as in, being moody/finicky/inconsistent?
 
Budget performance with HDDs.
Versions/autosave that's apparently made for idiots and you can't opt out of it.
And the freaking continuous, random Wi-Fi disconnects that defy reason. Still haven't fixed those.
 
Mountain Lion ran great on my MBP. Mavericks just doesn't. Everything takes longer. Safari 7 takes 20 SECONDS to load. In ML it took 1. This is ridiculous especially considering I have an SSD installed (with TRIM enabled). And this is all with a fresh install. When I had the upgrade, things were even worse.
 
nitromac said:
Mountain Lion ran great on my MBP. Mavericks just doesn't. Everything takes longer. Safari 7 takes 20 SECONDS to load. In ML it took 1. This is ridiculous especially considering I have an SSD installed (with TRIM enabled). And this is all with a fresh install. When I had the upgrade, things were even worse.
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Off-topic: Do you have the mountain lion audio stuttering bug...? 😀
 
I wish there was a 2D Dock at the bottom 😛. I love the 3D dock as well, but I still love the updated 2D look, it's just a shame it's not available for the bottom of the desktop..
 
The stupid notifications that drop down all the time. I mean, they're not new, but that doesn't mean I don't hate them.

Oh yeah, and the stupid display preferences.
 
JoeG4 said:
The stupid notifications that drop down all the time. I mean, they're not new, but that doesn't mean I don't hate them.
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you can turn those off.. there's a 'do not disturb' switch in the notification panel... that's configurable in system preferences if you want to set it to 'do not disturb between these times' as well as what apps will display notifications..

i don't know.. at first, to me, it seemed like a not needed feature on a computer and should stay in iOS but now i like it and use it.
 
For me it's the way account preferences for mail.app are shoved into system preferences and I can no longer log in to gmail with one thing and reply to email with something else, and it particularly upsets me I can't even reply as the person the email was addressed to merely because that isn't the user name I happen to be using for that email account. 😡

This issue caused me to go out and buy Airmail which fixes the account restrictions but has its own problems.

Another annoyance is the shared keychain. I lost the password for Macrumors and had to change it. You think I could do that from Safari? No WAY! I had to shut down the doggone shared keychain just to regain control of my Macrumors login in Safari. I won't be turning THAT mess back on! 😡

I know this is a thread about annoyances but I think I should mention that the way Mavericks handles memory makes my 8 GB feel like 12! :apple: I should also mention that I absolutely love the automatic app update downloads. This, along with shared Photostreams makes the post-Snow Leopard OS's worth having despite the annoyances.

To get back to annoyances, installing from USB should automatically create a recovery partition on the target HDD or SSD. Why should I have to re-download Install OSX Mavericks.app then run a tool to create a recovery partition? Upgrading to SSD ought to be less bothersome.
 
r0k said:
To get back to annoyances, installing from USB should automatically create a recovery partition on the target HDD or SSD. Why should I have to re-download Install OSX Mavericks.app then run a tool to create a recovery partition? Upgrading to SSD ought to be less bothersome.
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booting the computer with a fresh drive while holding cmmd-R doesn't do the trick?

as in, i've never tried it with USB.. maybe it won't work.. but there is a recovery partition which isn't on your main drive (if i understand what you're saying correctly) built in to the newer computers.
 
flat five said:
booting the computer with a fresh drive while holding cmmd-R doesn't do the trick?

as in, i've never tried it with USB.. maybe it won't work.. but there is a recovery partition which isn't on your main drive (if i understand what you're saying correctly) built in to the newer computers.
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I have a usb stick so it's really not such a big deal, but... booting with a fresh drive inside violates my preferred method of upgrading. I prefer to connect the new drive via a USB to SATA cable, boot to a Mavericks USB stick and install from there. During the install, I choose to restore from the old Macintosh HD sitting inside the machine. This is slow because USB is dog slow (compared to firewire or USB3). Once this is done and I'm happily booting from the new SSD, only then do I open the case and put it in. I've done this twice now and both times no recovery partition was created during the install process. IMHO this should have been automatic.
 
Nyy8 said:
Oh and Finders speed is never fun to deal with.
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I know there are several people who say this, but when i search for things in finder, it literally takes 1 seconds for it to appear, or when i also use spotlight. 😕
 
r0k said:
I have a usb stick so it's really not such a big deal, but... booting with a fresh drive inside violates my preferred method of upgrading. I prefer to connect the new drive via a USB to SATA cable, boot to a Mavericks USB stick and install from there. During the install, I choose to restore from the old Macintosh HD sitting inside the machine. This is slow because USB is dog slow (compared to firewire or USB3). Once this is done and I'm happily booting from the new SSD, only then do I open the case and put it in. I've done this twice now and both times no recovery partition was created during the install process. IMHO this should have been automatic.
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hmm.. yeah, i see what you're saying..

i don't have time to mess around with it right now but i think cmmd-R boots the computer via the internet and not some piece of hardware inside.. at which point, you download osx and install it.. pretty sure you can't use cmmdR in the way i was originally thinking you could.. much less- use it to accomplish what you're wanting.
 
It's a terrible OS for non-SSD users. I set up a $2000 iMac for my dad a few months ago, and it's slow as molasses in Winter.

It's an inconsistent and buggy OS. Things that worked in Tiger are broken, while things that came over from iOS seem to work. Multi-monitor support still isn't great, and if you don't mind me comparing it to 10.3, which was "lickable" like a lollipop, this is "lickable" like a flagpole in the winter.
 
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