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It's alive and well in the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field.
Time to get into acceptance, this is the "new lower grade iPhone"
Time to get into acceptance, this is the "new lower grade iPhone"
So, take it back and get a new one. That's what I had planned to do if I had the issue. I don't however, no matter how many bars I have initially.
I can tell you that I was on a conference call yesterday (on speaker)...giving it the death grip literally started causing disruption on the call to the point where the other person was breaking up....couldn't tell what they were saying.
It is a real issue...but I never hold my phone like that normally....maybe it will happen to me if I switch to my left hand though...I really don't want to have to think about it when I'm on a call.
Don't understand the disruption. With a digital call you should have it or not. I can understand that the breaking up. You lost signal but the disruption up to the point of breaking up is interesting.
Odd the problems people are having with this phone. Hopefully we see a fix.
Is his AT&T bill cheaper because he paid full price for the phone?
That's what you seem to be saying. That I pay more per month because I bought a $299 phone and he's paying less per month because he bought a $699 phone.
I don't think that's correct.
if people are worried about that take it back on your 29th day see if the update fixes it and then buy a brand new one a couple days later
(dont know how your upgrades would work (should revert back to as they were) but the people who bought sim free have nothing to loose doing this And you get a 2nd brand new iphone to unbox
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I'll try and repeat and video it....I don't think I've seen a video of an actual call, just "speed test" type videos.
That's a good point that no one ever takes into consideration.
On the other hand, he didn't extend his contract another two years, which means he will be moving to Verizon with the iPhone in 2011!
Oh yeah, he'll also have more reliable service, the iPhone antenna won't be susceptible to detuning next time 'round, and he'll be paying $200 for it - all while you have your broken phone on AT&T for another year.
Not to pick on you in particular, of course, just pointing out that there are advantages to both paying full price or using a subsidy.
Witht the unsubsidized price, you put the chip of your choice and the plan as well. For example, I have an iPhone 4 with pay as you go chip with $19.99 unlimited data per month, my plan is $3 per day if use, otherwise no charge, my monthly bill is about $70, probably use about 800-900 minutes per month.
yes it is the network has to pay apple full price and then they give you the phone as a 'hire purchace' agreement with your contract, whichever way you cut it the phone is $700 whether you paid $700 or $300 you just pay more on your contract untill the network make their money back (this is usually arround the 13-18 month mark and the rest of the months are their interest for the hire purchase)
This is what I'm getting at, but it's still not entirely clear.
Does the $300-phone person pay MORE on his monthly bill than the $700-phone person does? (For the same services.)
My first iPhone 4 had all the defects. The most prominent was the reception, loss of signal issue.*
That said it's important to note that in my years of cell phone use, I've never gripped a phone anywhere near hard enough to be labeled a "death grip".*
Surely the press loves this sensational description of how one holds the phone.*
What's really beyond me is all the iPhone owners that have fallen into the trap. They repeatedly use that term here, which makes them gullible and guilty of "holding the phone wrong" therefore being sucked into the trap Steve Jobs has set for them.*
Jim Jones would be so proud of Steve Jobs. What a hero. ...
Well, it's obviously a bit more complicated in the US because for some reason AT&T seems to get away with charging the same monthly amount for a no-commitment plan as for a full contract -- here in the UK it's very clear, you can get the same minutes & data for £20 per month without an iPhone instead of £40 with one. There must be a way to use a no-commitment iPhone from AT&T on a cheaper plan or a cheaper pre-paid option. Even if not, the ability to sell your old phone every year means that the amounts you're paying aren't too different.
People who pay full price for their phones aren't idiots, they've worked it out for themselves and found that it doesn't make much difference.
here is the misconception, yes it is true the monthly bill helps to pay for a phone subsidy, but the monthly bill is for the service period. you pay the same whether you get a subsidized phone, you pay full price, or you bring in an old phone. i'll say it again the monthly bill is the cost of your service it isn't intended to pay for your subsidized phone. the thing you give them when you get a subsidized phone is your commitment to pay them for the next 2 years for cell service. it isn't to pay them back for your phone.
another way to think of it is they are giving you an instant rebate on your phone in exchange for committing to 2 years of service with them
this is of course referring to the US
yeah cant say for the US (because of the monopoly on the iphone) but in the uk it is a lot cheaper for a sim without a phone £20 a month compared to £45 if you get a phone with it and you still have to pay ~£180 for the phone.
or depending how much you use you could even get a £5 a month contract for just unlimited internet, it almost always works out cheaper to buy phone outright and go sim only and you are always free to upgrade at anytime