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What happened to Push Notification?

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iphonematt

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I thought in September, push notification for all apps (such as AIM) would be enable so even if the app isn't running, you would still get messages etc.
Is this still in the works or is it never happening?
 
iphonematt said:
I thought in September, push notification for all apps (such as AIM) would be enable so even if the app isn't running, you would still get messages etc.
Is this still in the works or is it never happening?
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Well, it's still September. Everyone thought it was coming in 2.1, since the betas have it (which I think that would be under NDA, but oh well). But they might release 2.2 this month.

Anyway, it was removed for "further development." What that is, is anyone's guess. I'm hoping it will extend from sending messages through the connection to streaming...but that's a stretch :(.
 
My guess: The MobileMe launch fiasco caught Apple by surprise.

Push Notification will all run through Apple's servers. If they're not ready, they'll get a bunch of bad press all over again for not being able to handle it.

I strongly suspect that 2.1 is perfectly capable of running the push service, but Apple got spooked by their recent server problems and decided to hold off on push notification until they can be sure they can handle the load. So it may be ready, just turned off.

There's even a chance that 2.1 already has it built in, but without the servers being on, it's useless. They may just turn them on one day and say "ok developers, go for it!" You wouldn't even need to update the phone's software. If you have 2.1, it'll suddenly start working. (Or maybe not...it may need 2.2. Dunno.)

All speculation on my part, but given the trouble they had with MobileMe, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a similar problem and they're simply waiting until it's fixed to launch it.
 
No mention of it at all since it was pulled from the Beta isn't particularly encouraging.
I guess it will come around just after the 3.0Ghz G5 Powerbooks ;)
 
Small White Car said:
My guess: The MobileMe launch fiasco caught Apple by surprise.

Push Notification will all run through Apple's servers. If they're not ready, they'll get a bunch of bad press all over again for not being able to handle it.

I strongly suspect that 2.1 is perfectly capable of running the push service, but Apple got spooked by their recent server problems and decided to hold off on push notification until they can be sure they can handle the load. So it may be ready, just turned off.

There's even a chance that 2.1 already has it built in, but without the servers being on, it's useless. They may just turn them on one day and say "ok developers, go for it!" You wouldn't even need to update the phone's software. If you have 2.1, it'll suddenly start working. (Or maybe not...it may need 2.2. Dunno.)

All speculation on my part, but given the trouble they had with MobileMe, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a similar problem and they're simply waiting until it's fixed to launch it.
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This is very likely the case.

Seeing as how many people around here don't feel 9 pages is enough apps for them - I can only imagine the kind of notifications they'll want (and how often they'll want them). Steve also mentioned that even free apps will get to use this service. This is going to be a boat load of notifications.

I think it's a pretty safe bet that once this goes live, that little cloud from the presentation is going to be pushing out BILLIONS of notifications right from day 1.
 
the little cloud is going to swell to a thunderhead then BOOM!

honestly id rather wait for push as opposed to living with bugs
 
But when they finally allow push for 3rd party apps won't everyone just start bitching again about their battery life and how staggeringly low it is even though you have an app running constantly in the background...
 
bubbagumpshrimp said:
Yeah, I was beginning to think that I was the only person who cared anymore.
Push IM was one of the reasons I wanted an iphone 3g. icall is another forgotten iphone specialty that I feel like will never come.
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It's never left my radar since it was announced. I'm surprised more of the top-tier iphone-related blogs aren't talking about it.
 
another $10 for touch users? heh

hopefully there will be an update before the end of the month and with any luck it will ensure that the new headphones will work with the phone.

here is to the update
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JPP said:
But when they finally allow push for 3rd party apps won't everyone just start bitching again about their battery life and how staggeringly low it is even though you have an app running constantly in the background...
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yeah no,
the whole point of push is that you can shut off the apps and have them NOT work in the background,
and still get notifications (like new messages on AIM) PUSHED to the device,
so the user can then start the app up again and view them.
 
I guess someone who has a lot of emails and SMSs pushed to their phone should have sort of some idea of what to expect, battery life wise.
 
But when they finally allow push for 3rd party apps won't everyone just start bitching again about their battery life and how staggeringly low it is even though you have an app running constantly in the background...
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yeah no, the whole point of push is that you can shut off the apps and have them NOT work in the background, and still get notifications (like new messages on AIM) PUSHED to the device, so the user can then start the app up again and view them.
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I think the first poster meant that now anyone using the Apple service, will have a background process pinging the Apple server, waiting for a Push Notification.

And considering how many people had battery problems with other Push setups, it's likely the notification push would have similar drainage.

Unless Apple has some trick up their sleeve. If I were them, I'd be furiously working on some alternative.
 
i remembered Apple was laughing at other phone (they showed a Samsung i think) at the WWDC because they have background running apps and Apple have "Push"... not funny anymore is it? :mad: Sept is ending tomorrow...
 
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