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What have you done with a PowerPC today?

The fact there's still some development of any apps for the PPC tells me that unlike what Apple wants us to believe, an 'unsupported' device isn't something folks should just toss into the garbage or fear monger about how unsafe it is online...

Wish there were some of this love for old iPhones as well, or first-gen iPods...
 
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wicknix said:
Oooo! Hopefully it's mpv. It's video streaming performance is superior to mplayer. It's also like a Swiss army knife that supports darn near any media format.
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Unfortunately it's not, I will drop one hint however. It requires SDL2, and I'm quite sure I'm the first person to ever get it to run on Panther (SDL2 requires Mac OS X 10.6 currently, I found some Tiger patches and then had to make some of my own patches to get it to run on 10.3.9).
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Imixmuan said:
I hope that means you're working on something special.....with your track record, I believe you are more than capable of something miraculous like this.
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Agreed! PPCMC in itself was a miraculous feat. 🙂

nickdalzell1 said:
The fact there's still some development of any apps for the PPC tells me that unlike what Apple wants us to believe, an 'unsupported' device isn't something folks should just toss into the garbage or fear monger about how unsafe it is online...
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Quite. On how many occasions have they informed us that our machines cannot run whichever latest OS release, only for this to be refuted or defeated by members of the Mac community? Some notable examples include officially preventing particular G3's and G4's from running Tiger and Leopard and the patched versions of El Capitan that were created by enthusiasts for early Mac Pro's - which is something that Apple's engineers could have produced.

The Apple of today largely offers disposable computers that cannot grow with you as your computing needs develop and if/when your requirements change, they will have to be abandoned in favour of a new purchase. I strongly suspect that the marketing execs at Apple resent the fact that older generations of Macs are not hindered in this manner and are still in operation - with machines from over 20 years ago continuing to remain viable and capable for a variety of tasks.

alex_free said:
Unfortunately it's not, I will drop one hint however. It requires SDL2, and I'm quite sure I'm the first person to ever get it to run on Panther (SDL2 requires Mac OS X 10.6 currently, I found some Tiger patches and then had to make some of my own patches to get it to run on 10.3.9).
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Judging by that screenshot, can we safely assume that there will be a G3 version? 🙂
 
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wm2 said:
VLC starts reading my USB directory and the poor quality radio stations. The 2.0.10 (32bit) VLC crashes many times. There is no problem with the G5 processor, but it is better to use another player on the G4.
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On PowerPC I stop at version 1.1.12. It's not only lighter than 2+, but still very codec compatible in 2020. I think you'll also find it a lot more stable. Here is a link if you want to try it out. It requires Leopard BTW.
 
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TheShortTimer said:
Agreed! PPCMC in itself was a miraculous feat. 🙂



Quite. On how many occasions have they informed us that our machines cannot run whichever latest OS release, only for this to be refuted or defeated by members of the Mac community? Some notable examples include officially preventing particular G3's and G4's from running Tiger and Leopard and the patched versions of El Capitan that were created by enthusiasts for early Mac Pro's - which is something that Apple's engineers could have produced.

The Apple of today largely offers disposable computers that cannot grow with you as your computing needs develop and if/when your requirements change, they will have to be abandoned in favour of a new purchase. I strongly suspect that the marketing execs at Apple resent the fact that older generations of Macs are not hindered in this manner and are still in operation - with machines from over 20 years ago continuing to remain viable and capable for a variety of tasks.



Judging by that screenshot, can we safely assume that there will be a G3 version? 🙂
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Of course there is a G3 version, and it works on Mac OS X 10.3.9 Panther+! A completely up to date modern video player will soon be apart of PPCMC (and why version 7.2 has been in development for weeks, I literally just got it all working).

I would love for the Apple Marketing execs to see SDL2.0.3 working on an OS that is 4 versions removed from the required Mac OS X 10.7.
 
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alex_free said:
Of course there is a G3 version, and it works on Mac OS X 10.3.9 Panther+! A completely up to date modern video player will soon be apart of PPCMC (and why version 7.2 has been in development for weeks, I literally just got it all working).
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Fantastic, I can't wait! 🙂

Will it also have DVD playback? The reason I ask is because PPC VLC and Apple DVD Player have a few shortcomings in this area. The former doesn't provide acceleration - whilst the latter does, but it will only play a physical DVD that's mounted in a drive, which means that whereas VLC will happily access VIDEO_TS files, Apple DVD Player will not - which is pretty annoying on machines without DVD drives.

alex_free said:
I would love for the Apple Marketing execs to see SDL2.0.3 working on an OS that is 4 versions removed from the required Mac OS X 10.7.
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Tweet it to them. 😀
 
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TheShortTimer said:
Fantastic, I can't wait! 🙂

Will it also have DVD playback? The reason I ask is because PPC VLC and Apple DVD Player have a few shortcomings in this area. The former doesn't provide acceleration - whilst the latter does, but it will only play a physical DVD that's mounted in a drive, which means that whereas VLC will happily access VIDEO_TS files, Apple DVD Player will not - which is pretty annoying on machines without DVD drives.



Tweet it to them. 😀
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It should play those back fine. It's FFplay, the video player of FFmpeg. @Dronecatcher said it's about as efficient as the smtube Mplayer (which requires 10.4.8).
 
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Some thoughts to playing the video. I have an Arrandale i3 HD 5470 (512MB) W7 VAIO laptop. This architecture is 10 years old but perfect for smaller tasks. The Geekbench3 multi score is 3650, single is 1650. Not a power machine but the HD 5470 has H.264 & HDR support. Very easy to play 1080p videos. Thats the key. For me, 2x1.5 GHz G4 or 2x2.0 GHz G5 with H.264 support would be enough. Like on this video: PowerMac G5 and Internet Browsing in 2018. Here is a Radeon 6750 (2 GB) but works well with 7750 & R9 too. Unfortunately Linux is not my way, but a very impressive video. Of course, here the power consumption a bit more as on contemporary devices; and the MBP/HD Radeons was the most problematic laptops in Apple history. The point, I really don’t want too much just a little hw support.🙂 Finally. Some people tell me “use Ubuntu or MorphOS”. Yes, but the old software on OS X is often better. Like iTunes 10, VOX or Fidelia if I want to play lossless music. Or the Ableton 7-8 is still good to use on my G4/G5.

“Wish there were some of this love for old iPhones as well, or first-gen iPods...”

The 256/512 flashed iPods with Wolfson DAC chip are very popular here. 1300 mAh battery, dualboot Rockbox firmware etc. but very expensive. My first gen. iPhone SE / Dragonfly much cheaper way.🙂
 
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wm2 said:
Thats the key. For me, 2x1.5 GHz G4 or 2x2.0 GHz G5 with H.264 support would be enough. Like on this video: PowerMac G5 and Internet Browsing in 2018. Here is a Radeon 6750 (2 GB) but works well with 7750 & R9 too.
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As it is, Linux is the only option on PPC if you want hardware accelerated h264, however, G5s can go 1080P with the appropriate player - a Quad can just about do 4K too.
I've had 1080P playing on Powerbooks too but given the amount of quality degradation to make it work you may as well stick to 720P - personally, good quality 360P has always been enough for me on a portable.
 
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Dronecatcher said:
As it is, Linux is the only option on PPC if you want hardware accelerated h264, however, G5s can go 1080P with the appropriate player - a Quad can just about do 4K too.
I've had 1080P playing on Powerbooks too but given the amount of quality degradation to make it work you may as well stick to 720P - personally, good quality 360P has always been enough for me on a portable.
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I watch 720p & 1080p movies on much more powerful machines because this is the resolution what most people download it. I don't really care about 4K and 8K (most of the movies are upscaled from 720/1080p with HDR tweaks or dosen’t exist). And YES. The 360p or 480p is ok on Powerbook TFT displays. There is no point to forcing the HD formats because the color is not the best either.
 
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Not on a 17" DLSD's 1680x1050 panel tho...
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It's too big anyway.🙂 The Ip Man 4 was a H.264 700x302 / 24 fr / planar 4:2:0 yuv decoded .mkv movie. Very good and enough on 12” PB. The FX Go5200 & the 1,25 gb ram the weak point for me here, not the little G4 CPU. I tried to find a 2 gb ram module but I think it's just an urban legend.🙂
 
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alex_free said:
GitHub has removed YouTube-dl! PPCMC YouTube-dl updater probably broken due to this FYI.

I was going to put PPCMC on GitHub but until further notice I can not, I’ll just keep putting it on the Garden.


The YouTube-DL Takedown

GitHub has removed the ability to access youtube-dl's source code due to a DMCA.
resynth1943.net resynth1943.net


YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA | Hacker News

news.ycombinator.com news.ycombinator.com
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Oh wow, do you think they'll find an alternative hosting solution?

We could gather resources to help support them and extort them into acknowledging 3gp still exists. 😆
 
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