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Well...that....makes me cry.
No Peggle Nights or Angry Birds for your kids (or, frankly, anything nice, since Apple murdered everything nice about Macs with Catalina in its deal-with-the-devil that everyone seems to be cheerfully embracing as if nothing is amiss).
Huh? (I have almost non-existent memory-retention for acronyms, especially short ones that could be anything.)Why they didn't made it for SL... ?
If it were possible to run other versions, I would do it. It just so happens that patched Catalina is all that works. Both machines are also fairly limited in the Linuxes they will run. So basically, one runs the only viable macOS, the other runs the Linux that they are happiest with. Both have broken AMD Graphics.
All these machines will likely end up running MX, as I don't suppose the iMac will like Sequoia much. Once Windows 10 ist kaput, then Linux all the way, so 15 months left running the mainline OSes.
SL = Snow Leopard.
Thanks, i have that installed, the realized my macbook pro's
sealion and Firefox legacy is all i need for the Internets,
but incase they wont load a page, that Chromium will be handy!
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That blog was refuted years ago in several places, including discussions within this very forum but misinformation travels to every corner of the world whilst the truth lags behind.
Bolded emphasis by the author.
Discussions like this are one of the many things I love about this place. I read the linked info - I don't know who's right, but wouldn't even be aware of the debate if I didn't frequent these forums.
Sometimes here I feel like a member of Bilbo's company from The Hobbit, caught in a thunderstorm on the Misty Mountains while the stone giants battle each other (apropos I suppose, given my avatar's character was there). I don't always grasp the details of what's being discussed, but always my knowledge is expanded, for which I'm grateful. Much of what I've learned about computing over the years has come to me in this fashion.
Anyway, just a note of appreciation. Please do carry on.
yes, i feel like a blind (ooops visually impaired) person
explaining a recent traffic accident to a police officer
when i defend the recent greatness of my MBP 2012 on these "M silicon...or else!" forums.
the police officer will never take my statement seriously.
I kind of understand the excitement. Going from a 2020 Intel MacBook Pro to even an M1 like I did was a night and day difference in terms of performance and efficiency. Even a few years on I am constantly impressed by how good my ARM Macs are.
That said. I still use my 2010 MacBook and 2003 PowerBook for different tasks and they are excellent machines given their age. The PowerBook would be difficult to get by with in 2024 as my only Mac, but the MacBook certainly still is a good everyday machine for most tasks, be it with High Sierra or even Sonoma.
I know exactly what's going on, and how to solve it: These machines have busted hardward-acceleration, but the OS doesn't know that. So, whatever OCLP trick you used with Catalina on a 2011 will also work with Mojave (I know, because I've done it recently on a few iMacs with the same problem). With Mojave, you build in into an HFS+ partition (also getting 32bit app support back) and clone it to an external master, so you can then boot and clone it onto any similar machines with that problem in the future. (Probably it also works with High Sierra, but never got around to it.)
Given the rapid extinction of the very concept of privacy everywhere there is electricity these days, whatever was mangled "years ago" is tomorrow's (if not today's) predictive-programming reality.
"...Personally, I wouldn’t suggest doing that as it prevents an important security feature from working...."
(boldface original)
*snort*
Alex, I would like to push the Big Black Button that automagically removes all the garbage that Apple has larded into the OS since circa 2015, please.
These kinds of statements are calorie-free without the specs of the machines in question. For example, if you had a "consumer-grade" 2020MBP 13", you got a 2ghz i5 running Catalina (boo!). Yeah, the M1 is faster. But so is an i9 (which has been maintaining benchmark parity, if not occasional leads, over same-year Apple silicon).
Slightly edited my desktop wallpaper. The particular edits occurred to the two 30" Cinema Displays and the 20" in the middle. It bothered me that two characters did not have a 'burst' behind them as the others did, so I fixed it.
I went from the mid-range 10th gen quad core i5 to the base M1, both with 16GB of ram. I know that the high end Intel CPUs are keeping up in benchmarks but it’s the combination of performance and efficiency that is truly remarkable with the Mx chips. My M1 never goes above 50C under load whereas my Intel machine with the same chassis would be pegged at over 100C with similar tasks (e.g. remote teaching with concurrent recording or rendering graphics for scientific publications). This is getting off topic for this thread though. As mentioned I still regularly use my Core 2 Duo MacBook for different tasks and it still does well given its age.
Hold on while I grab some Apple "longevity"-pumpers and strap them to chairs with their eyelids taped open.
Of course your intel machine is going to run like crap with Catalina+ (to say nothing of you-are-an-unpaid-betatester Sonoma) -- Apple designed its post-Mojae OSes to run like dogshat on intel for perfectly obvious reasons (and to add insult, killed off 32bit to drive everyone onto the bloated-sows subscription-model accelerating automatic-"update" artificial-obsolescence merrygoround). Fortunately, 98% of intel Macs don't have to run Apple's recent OSes.
Trust me: Apple will be killing your Mx joybox before you know it, and a few years later, every pawnshop will be full of the things. (Or maybe not, depending upon how efficiently Apple's brick-old-product schemes are proceding.)
That poor MacBook is longing for microchip heaven, where it'll finally get to play Peggle Nights again (which ran on eleven successive versions of the OS from Tiger to Mojave, and still is arguably the best puzzle game ever made).
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Kinda weird experience with my MacBook Air 2010 would not read or accept
the Snow Leopard usb drive while restarting in option mode.
even their Internets option wanted Lion instead of the orig OSX Snow Leopard
Therefore, I need to make a snow leopard time machine from a 64GB then install that on a 128GB.
so much for that joyous Snow Leopard start up video and a clean install.
the Snow Leopard usb drive while restarting in option mode.
even their Internets option wanted Lion instead of the orig OSX Snow Leopard
Therefore, I need to make a snow leopard time machine from a 64GB then install that on a 128GB.
so much for that joyous Snow Leopard start up video and a clean install.
Had it done so before?
1. Restart while holding down Command-Option-P-R through three successive chimes, then....
2. Hold down option and boot into a Recovery partition (on the internal drive or external drive). If this doesn't work, hold down Command-R, and boot into it that way (requires a wireless connection). Take note if you're still on Lion minimum.
3. In the Recovery screen, select language (if it bugs you about that), then open Utilities > Startup Security, and turn it OFF if it is on (requires a paassword). Then close that and go to Utilities > Terminal. Enter "csrutil disable" (without quotes) and hit return.
4. Close Terminal and open Disk Utility. Repair-scan the Snow Leopard USB for errors. While you're in Disk Utility, observe whether or not the internal drive is formatted to MacOS Extended or to APFS (it's possible that you won't be able to do this depending on the version of your Recovery partition).
~ ~ ~ ~ ~
(Q. At any point have you used OpenCoreLegacy to run a Catalina or higher version of the OS on this machine?)
Which version of Snow Leopard does your USB drive contain? The 2010 MBA requires 10.6.4 and most versions are usually 10.6 or 10.6.3 as I discovered when trying to install Snow Leopard on mine. I modified the installer as I didn't have the specific 10.6.4 USB installer that Apple shipped with the machine. If you do want a copy, it's available on the Mac Garden as I learned later.
I went through this as well. Internet Recovery offered me Lion - which I did not want. Maybe Apple doesn't have the 10.6.4 version available on their servers?
It didn't on mine. See above.
Good advice and it certainly can't hurt to try this but I strongly suspect that @MBAir2010's difficulties stem from trying to install 10.6/10.6.3 when the the 2010 C2D MBA requires 10.6.4.
I'm up in the middle of night and suffering from insomnia, so I turn to the French TV series Sentinelles (Soldiers) to pass the time and hopefully gain some entertainment.
As usual, my MBP 2011 running High Sierra and VLC does the honours.
Episode 1 has captivated me sufficiently to continue watching the succeeding episodes. Please, no spoilers if you've already watched this!
As usual, my MBP 2011 running High Sierra and VLC does the honours.
Episode 1 has captivated me sufficiently to continue watching the succeeding episodes. Please, no spoilers if you've already watched this!
If it’s a working unit (as the most failure-prone have sort of removed themselves from circulation by now, just like the failure-prone iterations of the Power Mac G5 years earlier), then yes, $200 for what can be used as a file server or even a work station running OCLP-patched builds of macOS?
I mean, I’m replying to this as one who’s despised the Trash Can for a mess of reasons — not least of which the absurd form factor and limitations thereto — but that said, were I to stumble upon a well-functioning one locally for that price (which would be about $260 here), and I had the scratch to take on another vintage Mac right now, then yes, I’d regard it as a bargain and might consider it.
I’m also saying this as a former owner of a highly failure-prone Yikes! G4 Power Mac, bought brand new. It was worse than most Macs in the post-1997 era; the only reason it doesn’t get more notice is it was sold for a fairly short window of time, unlike the six years of MacPro6,1.
That also said, I’d much rather find a Westmere 2012 Mac Pro in excellent shape for similar pricing, to steadily kit it out.
<snip Snow Leopard stuff>
<nod> This is why bootable backups (courtesy of CCC) are king and why TM is worthless. IIRC, Snow Leopard went to 10.6.8, so if you've a backup of that, you're covered.
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