What i don't like about the retina MBP

[aoaaron]

battery & sleep indicator (specifically sleep) is very annoying.
no matte option for me is a deal breaker unless reflections have improved heavily (which they reported have not).

only reason matte is a deal breaker for me is because I've had an AG MBP 15'' and honestly... i have had zero problems with this display in so many different conditions, and watching so much different content. its been a pleasure to use from a visual perspective to be quite honest.

i have a go on other glossy or semi=glossy displays and they're niceish... but i really think lasts years matte displays were a fantastic jump up by apple. sad that they don't recognise their own really great work.

 

[maxfischersweet]

SD cards are used by more photographers then CF cards. The "Pro" moniker is purely there for marketing. I think all of the MBPs only have two USBs and have only had 2 for a while now. I don't care about the logo on the screen - didn't notice it missing for that matter. 17" MBPs were not selling which is why they killed if off. If apple was making money on the 17" MBPs they would still be in the line up.

As for the kensington lock. That is all but useless. One good tug would have pulled it out, or some cutters.

yeah but your wrong. cf cards are used by more "pro" photographers. faster, more reliable, and all pro cameras either take just cf, or cf plus sd. they do not all just take sd. so therefore, the cf would be more of a progressional standard.

just to make things clear.

however, pros using sd cards to transfer things to for customers/clients does happen. so that may make it seem like thats all they use.

 

[ixodes]

Stop, Think, Read, and THEN Decide...

Here are a few links to provide readers with "another viewpoint" before spending your hard earned money on a MacBook Pro_Retina

I'm not posting these to highlight the issue, but rather to balance out the excitement that is normal and surrounds any new release.

As one who owns this laptop, I highly encourage you to read these first, and then decide if you want to take the chance.

Personally from a pure use standpoint, the new MBP_R is very nice.

But it's these other issues that you might wish to seriously think about, before you make your decision.



http://www.technewsworld.com/story/75378.html

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Pro-with-Retina-Display-Teardown/9462/1#.T9yXU7VYtT8

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ate-my-new-macbook-pro-a-geek-s-critique.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidth...ce-apples-new-macbook-pro-isnt-built-to-last/

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2184204/researchers-bemoan-unfixable-macbook-pro

 

[CapnJackGig]

Odd, most of the videographers in my industry that I've been working with who have been in the industry for 10+ years give me SD cards with footage on them. Maybe I should tell them they're wrong.

Sure they do. Are they also shooting the videos with Nintendo 3DSes?

 

[BJonson]

I use SD cards and CF cards in my cameras and I can tell you I have never had a CF card break or go bad and I have had tons of SD cards fail and fall apart. CF cards are the way to go but for smaller items even micro sd cards are more solid than SD. But yeah, why can't they make the sd card reader flush. Its flush on my thinkpad which is very nice because I can leave it in all the time like a second drive. Fail here on apples part.

As far as the Retina mac pro screen goes, well I just got the new Macbook air and I love it but the screen is annoying and when I saw the retina macbook pro yesterday at the apple store I went home and ordered one. That screen is amazing at every angle and this is where the macbook air fails. The resolution independence is a majore thing for me. Being able to switch resolutions like that seems like it would be really useful.

The new magsafe power adapter seems too thin. It is harder to stay in the laptop as it likes to fall out easier but the adapter I bought works great with the older magsafe and it actually fits better because it hugs the sides of the macbook air nicely. I tell you I would rather have the magsafe 1 with adapter than the new magsafe 2.

 

[deannnnn]

- SD Card reader. It's a PRO machine, nobody uses SD cards, FFS. CF or gtfo!

I am a professional who does use CF cards for work sometimes, but this is also my personal computer. It's where I'll be dumping and editing all of my personal photos and videos shot on my T3i, which uses SD.

At least in the pro video world there are so many different types of recording media (SD, CF, SxS, P2) that you just have to go external.

 

[spaceballl]

+1 on the battery / sleep. Everything else you mentioned isn't an issue for me, and I'd actually disagree on the CF v. SD. I'd MUCH rather have CF. Just get a USB 3 CF reader if ya need one

 

[imahawki]

SD cards are used by more photographers then CF cards. The "Pro" moniker is purely there for marketing. I think all of the MBPs only have two USBs and have only had 2 for a while now. I don't care about the logo on the screen - didn't notice it missing for that matter. 17" MBPs were not selling which is why they killed if off. If apple was making money on the 17" MBPs they would still be in the line up.

As for the kensington lock. That is all but useless. One good tug would have pulled it out, or some cutters.

But not by PRO photographers. If you look at the specs for the Canon 7D, 5D, and above and the equivalent Nikons, they take CF cards. That was the previous poster's point.

 

[KohPhiPhi]

- just 2 USBs.
- the T-shaped Magsafe plug.

I agree with these two.

There should have been 3 USBs, and the old L-shaped Magsafe is much better.

But I cannot believe you actually forgot the TRULY main problem with the RMBP: there's no matte screen option!

 

[pgiguere1]

OP has in its sig that he uses a Canon 5D MKIII which supports both CF and SD cards.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that was because SD is expected to surpass CF in performance and Canon chose to be both future-proof and backwards compatible for photographer who already own a bunch of CF cards. Canon has also shifted to SD in their mid-range line (X0D) with the 60D being the first to use SD only (50D, 40D, 30D... use CF cards) and obviously the entry-level line (Rebels) use SD cards.

It's already clear that SD cards are already much more popular than CF cards in general but not it looks that even for pro / semi-pro cameras the trend is going towards SD cards as well. Apple is all about new technology trends, not the ones "on their way out" so that may be one reason other than the fact that a CF is a lot bigger and Apple obviously did all they could to make that laptop thin and portable.

 

[dccorona]

You don't like that it's missing a slot for the largest card format out there (that probably wouldn't have fit if they wanted it), is slowly being phased out (SDXC is a superior card, though that may change if the CF 5.0 standard gets widely adopted...still those cards wouldn't be compatible with the older slot, at least not with their better features), and wasn't on the unibody pros either? CF is the kind of card you use and adapter for.

And the t charger keeps it from wearing down and needing to be replaced. They've been using it for a while now

EDIT: my bad, I was reading T and thinking L. Yes, the L is better and I'm surprised they didn't stick with it

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But not by PRO photographers. If you look at the specs for the Canon 7D, 5D, and above and the equivalent Nikons, they take CF cards. That was the previous poster's point.

Which will change soon unless CF 5.0 takes off. SDXC is smaller, faster, and can store more than CF. Not to mention CF was probably too big for the case, and apple has never really supported it anyway

 

[cmChimera]

Here are a few links to provide readers with "another viewpoint" before spending your hard earned money on a MacBook Pro_Retina

I'm not posting these to highlight the issue, but rather to balance out the excitement that is normal and surrounds any new release.

As one who owns this laptop, I highly encourage you to read these first, and then decide if you want to take the chance.

Personally from a pure use standpoint, the new MBP_R is very nice.

But it's these other issues that you might wish to seriously think about, before you make your decision.



http://www.technewsworld.com/story/75378.html

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Pro-with-Retina-Display-Teardown/9462/1#.T9yXU7VYtT8

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ate-my-new-macbook-pro-a-geek-s-critique.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidth...ce-apples-new-macbook-pro-isnt-built-to-last/

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2184204/researchers-bemoan-unfixable-macbook-pro

Consumers want thinner laptops, and they want more powerful laptops. Something has got to give.

 

[dccorona]

Wait you have SD cards that big? Man I need to keep up with technology.

They'll go up to 2TB I think by the end of the year, if they haven't already. SDXC supports 2TB

 

[macuser2134]

 

[dccorona]

That's weird because their cameras certainly do not use SD cards.

CompactFlash is pretty much in all the high-end cameras exclusively and it is actually a lot faster too.

I agree, why didn't they just make it a combo-slot, so all with (cough) consumer cameras can have their SD cards and those with CompactFlash can have theirs as well.

Good thing I still have my CompactFlash FireWire 800 reader ... oh wait, need the new-fangled dongle for that. If only that slot had been combo.

Technically, you can have any add-on you wish with two ThunderBolt-ports.

If they're shooting with actual video cameras instead of DSLRs, they probably don't use CF either. Video cameras are still stuck on proprietary card formats...often just using straight up SSDs

 

[throttlemeister]

OP has in its sig that he uses a Canon 5D MKIII which supports both CF and SD cards.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that was because SD is expected to surpass CF in performance and Canon chose to be both future-proof and backwards compatible for photographer who already own a bunch of CF cards. Canon has also shifted to SD in their mid-range line (X0D) with the 60D being the first to use SD only (50D, 40D, 30D... use CF cards) and obviously the entry-level line (Rebels) use SD cards.

It's already clear that SD cards are already much more popular than CF cards in general but not it looks that even for pro / semi-pro cameras the trend is going towards SD cards as well. Apple is all about new technology trends, not the ones "on their way out" so that may be one reason other than the fact that a CF is a lot bigger and Apple obviously did all they could to make that laptop thin and portable.

Until recently (as in before 2010), no SD cards existed that were either as fast as CF nor as big. And still, there is more choice in big, fast CF cards than there is in SD cards of the same size and speed. Like it or not, for pro's using high megapixel full frame camera's producing humongous raw files, there was and really isn't an alternative to CF. Not in the least because SD is notoriously unreliable compared to CF.

And FWIW, when talking about dual CF/SD slot camera's, all of them default to CF as primary. And I doubt we will see CF go any time soon from these class of cameras.

 

[pgiguere1]

The T MagSafe is better at detaching when you accidentally pull it. That would be appreciated since the L MagSafe is clearly not very effective.

My girlfriend's dog ran into my charger cable while my 11" MBA was sitting on the table and the MagSafe didn't even detach and my MBA simply fell on the ground like any non-Mac laptop would have. Luckily it only had cosmetic damage but still, it made me hate the L MagSafe since my previous T ones have proven to be very effective.

Of course the 11" MBA is a very light laptop but I have a feeling that wouldn't have happened with the T connector since it easily bends when you pull on it. The L one works mostly when you pull it away (perpendicularly) from your
laptop which is not always what happen I'm real life scenarios.

 

[PVisitors]

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Agree with most of this except the speakers mainly and plastic screen is pretty meh.. Yeah obviously I'm not an arsehole who uses speakers in public, but I use them when I'm at home to listen to music. I wouldn't want a laptop where I need to listen to it with headphones 24/7 or a laptop with really rudimentary sound. These are hardly criticisms really, just little niggles.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ate-my-new-macbook-pro-a-geek-s-critique.html

That article is laughable. Wrong on so many points.

 

[dccorona]

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Dumbest thing I've ever seen.

-a painted silver plastic strip would look better than black? No
-802.11AC is a useless standard for the foreseeable future because nothing exists to leverage its speed
-Haswell isn't available yet, so what're they implying? Maybe there will be a new slot in future macs. For the time being, that's not something to criticize...they didn't have a choice
-SD is convenient for a lot of people, and wouldnt save enough room to do anything else with the space.
-A computer without speakers? Are you kidding?
- Plastic screen...just stop

 

[LeGacY X]

I had no idea that they went back to the old t-shape for the mag-safe power adapter! While I liked the cable management capabilities of the L-Shape adapter better, the T-Shape were definitely safer if your cord got tripped over. Any word on if the Mag-safe 2 is harder/easier to remove than the 1st generation.

 

[maflynn]

But not by PRO photographers. If you look at the specs for the Canon 7D, 5D, and above and the equivalent Nikons, they take CF cards. That was the previous poster's point.

And like everything else, Apple caters to the majority, i.e., consumers. They're not going to drop the SD card because professionals use high end DSLRs that use CF cards. On the contrary, apple adds features that will benefit the majority.

 

[Mackilroy]

I just installed Google Chrome Browser and it looks to be a bit better but still not what I'm used to on a mac.

The only version of Chrome that currently supports the Retina display is the Canary build -- otherwise you're just going to get business as usual.

 

[unixperience]

I meant when it is inserted in to the slot, the back end of the sd card sticks out around 1/4 of its lenght. It is similar to the sd card reader for the ipad camera connection kit. I'd prefer it to be flash with the side of the mbp.

people had similar thoughts when the air came out, heres a thread on making it flush the key is using MICRO SD with an sd adapter https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1206894/
its a bit old but im sure there are more recent ones with similar topics. and with the new rmbp i think there will be many more

 

[kaydot]

Odd, most of the videographers in my industry that I've been working with who have been in the industry for 10+ years give me SD cards with footage on them. Maybe I should tell them they're wrong.

That's pretty interesting. Most of the photographers I work with use high end CF. Must be an industry/equipment thing.

 

[Rogifan]

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Plastic screens and no laptop speakers? Are you serious?