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What if I want a "Family Plan" with only 1 iPhone and 1 standard phone?

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slate1

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Am I still going to pay $149???

If so, forget it! That's ridiculous - I'd be better staying with Alltel...

Surely this is not the case... I presume I can do the data, etc on just the iPhone.

I was counting on the 1400 minute family plan ($89.99) plus the $30 data plan for the iPhone for a total of $119.99
 
slate1 said:
Am I still going to pay $149???

If so, forget it! That's ridiculous - I'd be better staying with Alltel...

Surely this is not the case... I presume I can do the data, etc on just the iPhone.

I was counting on the 1400 minute family plan ($89.99) plus the $30 data plan for the iPhone for a total of $119.99
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You would pay 89.99 + 30 for the iPhone. AT&T's Family Plans assume you are buying two iPhones. (Much like the first iPhone's Family Plan)
 
slate1 said:
Am I still going to pay $149???

If so, forget it! That's ridiculous - I'd be better staying with Alltel...

Surely this is not the case... I presume I can do the data, etc on just the iPhone.

I was counting on the 1400 minute family plan ($89.99) plus the $30 data plan for the iPhone for a total of $119.99
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As I understand it you would pay for the family plan and one line would add data. The other line wouldn't have a data plan unless you purchase another pda/smarphone or iphone.
 
Small White Car said:
I'm not assuming it.

I'm reading it. The little text on that page that says "includes 2 lines" was my first hint.
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yeah - but show me on that page where it says "includes 2 iPhone lines" - that's where the confusion for me comes in. I'm going to assume that's what it is and if I only have one iPhone then it is indeed $30 cheaper.

One thing it seems with regards to AT&T, however, is never assume anything.
 
slate1 said:
yeah - but show me on that page where it says "includes 2 iPhone lines" - that's where the confusion for me comes in. I'm going to assume that's what it is and if I only have one iPhone then it is indeed $30 cheaper.

One thing it seems with regards to AT&T, however, is never assume anything.
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We don't have to show you. Sign up for a normal AT&T family plan. Now upgrade one line to the iPhone. Now you'll see that the one on that page has to include two iPhone lines.

If it only included one iPhone, don't you think people will just sign up for a normal family plan then upgrade the line? AT&T isn't stupid.
 
slate1 said:
yeah - but show me on that page where it says "includes 2 iPhone lines" - that's where the confusion for me comes in. I'm going to assume that's what it is and if I only have one iPhone then it is indeed $30 cheaper.

One thing it seems with regards to AT&T, however, is never assume anything.
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Just do the math man.
149.99 = 80 (1400 mins + 1 line) + 9.99 (2nd line) + 30 (iphone data) + 30 (iphone data)

If you only want 1 iPhone on the plan:
80 (1400 mins + 1 line) + 9.99 (2nd line) + 30 (iphone data) = 119.99
 
slate1 said:
yeah - but show me on that page where it says "includes 2 iPhone lines" - that's where the confusion for me comes in. I'm going to assume that's what it is and if I only have one iPhone then it is indeed $30 cheaper.

One thing it seems with regards to AT&T, however, is never assume anything.
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While not directly from AT&T, every single article today discusses the family plan including two iPhone lines at $129.99. Search google news for iPhone and found countless sources that quote "two iPhone lines", and unless journalistic integrity has shrunk to an all-time low, I would go with the validity of the some reputable sites - examples:

http://techblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/07/att-releases-iphone-sales-deta.html
http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/t-announces-iphone-3g-data-pricing/2008-07-01
 
The simple fact that all of today's info is post on the At&t site on the IPHONE INFORMATION PAGE should spell it out.

The prices shown on that page are for TWO iPhone 3G lines.

If you have 1 iPhone 3G and 1 regular phone, it will be exactly the same as if you had 1 WinMo phone and 1 regular phone, or 1 BlackBerry and 1 regular phone...

I will use my plan (1 normal phone and 1 BlackBerry) as the example.

2100 shared minutes- $100
2nd line- $9.99
Unlimited family text- $30
BlackBerry Personal Plan- $30

Total = $169.99

If I swap the BlackBerry out for the iPhone 3G, NOTHING CHANGES. It will be the exact same cost.

Again, the Family Plan info on the "iPhone information" page is for TWO iPhone 3G lines.

Same 2100 minutes on 2 iPhone 3Gs...

2100 shared minutes- $100
2nd line- $9.99
Two iPhone 3G data plans- $60

Total = $169.99

Get it?

If you want to get an iPhone 3G and a normal phone on a two line Family Plan, all you have to do is add $30 to the cost.
 
slate1 said:
yeah - but show me on that page where it says "includes 2 iPhone lines" - that's where the confusion for me comes in. I'm going to assume that's what it is and if I only have one iPhone then it is indeed $30 cheaper.

One thing it seems with regards to AT&T, however, is never assume anything.
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That is easy to do.
AT&T Press Release

Located under voice data and text messaging plans is:
AT&T will offer FamilyTalk plans, with bundled voice and unlimited data, starting as low as $129.99 a month for two iPhone 3G lines. Up to three additional iPhone lines can be added for $39.99 each.
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Bolding mine.
 
CrazEtooN said:
I will use my plan (1 normal phone and 1 BlackBerry) as the example.

2100 shared minutes- $100
2nd line- $9.99
Unlimited family text- $30
BlackBerry Personal Plan- $30

Total = $169.99
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I just need 1 iPhone, 1 regular phone, 550 shared minutes. In your example, you add $9.99 for a second line. Isn't the second phone included in the base shared minutes rate and you just pay $9.99 for a third phone?

Is this accurate: $60 (550 shared mins for line 1 and 2) + $30 (iphone data) = $90 + applicable taxes?
 
So can someone help me add up a family plan for my wife and I?
We would like:

2 iPhones
700 min family plan
1 phone needs to have exchange support

also can we just pay $5 each for 200msg or do we have to get unlimited or nothing?

We pretty much have this deal now with Verizon but with a blackberry and an enV for about $160 after taxes.
 
RRK said:
So can someone help me add up a family plan for my wife and I?
We would like:

2 iPhones
700 min family plan
1 phone needs to have exchange support

also can we just pay $5 each for 200msg or do we have to get unlimited or nothing?

We pretty much have this deal now with Verizon but with a blackberry and an enV for about $160 after taxes.
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139 + taxes for each phone to have 200 sms
 
WOW!

There are some conceited and self righteous people on these boards... I guess the iPhone crowd is a bit different than the iMac crowd.

Sorry for being such a moron - :rolleyes:

Here's the thing - I shouldn't have to go to a freakin' press release to figure out that the "Family Plan" listed on the iPhone site is for two iPhones and that it will be $30 cheaper if I add a non-smartphone.

What AT&T should do is just say pick a plan, any plan, and add $30 for each iPhone data plan you want to add. Period.

I understand now that is what they are showing on the iPhone site - but it should be plain and clear... As a customer coming from a competitor I shouldn't have to dig through the entire AT&T website to figure out what it's going to cost in my scenario.
 
kcdude said:
I just need 1 iPhone, 1 regular phone, 550 shared minutes. In your example, you add $9.99 for a second line. Isn't the second phone included in the base shared minutes rate and you just pay $9.99 for a third phone?

Is this accurate: $60 (550 shared mins for line 1 and 2) + $30 (iphone data) = $90 + applicable taxes?
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The $9.99 is added to the minutes plan. For example, At&t advertises the 2100 shared minutes plan as $109.99 for the first two lines. On the bill, however, it is actually $100 for the minutes and $9.99 for the second line.
 
slate1 said:
WOW!

There are some conceited and self righteous people on these boards... I guess the iPhone crowd is a bit different than the iMac crowd.

Sorry for being such a moron - :rolleyes:

Here's the thing - I shouldn't have to go to a freakin' press release to figure out that the "Family Plan" listed on the iPhone site is for two iPhones and that it will be $30 cheaper if I add a non-smartphone.

What AT&T should do is just say pick a plan, any plan, and add $30 for each iPhone data plan you want to add. Period.

I understand now that is what they are showing on the iPhone site - but it should be plain and clear... As a customer coming from a competitor I shouldn't have to dig through the entire AT&T website to figure out what it's going to cost in my scenario.
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You should have enough common sense to understand that the information contained on a SPECIAL page on the At&t website DEDICATED to iPhone info would contain the pricing for 2 iPhone 3G devices as the Family Plan example.

Don't get angry with us because you lack common sense.

Your example of pick a plan and add $30 to it for each iPhone is exactly what it is by the way (well, $39.99, but that is because each extra line costs $9.99. That is an At&t thing for ALL phones though, not just the iPhone). Again, common sense should have told you that, and it isn't our fault that it didn't. I personally thought it was pretty obvious...
 
slate1 said:
WOW!

There are some conceited and self righteous people on these boards... I guess the iPhone crowd is a bit different than the iMac crowd.

Sorry for being such a moron - :rolleyes:

Here's the thing - I shouldn't have to go to a freakin' press release to figure out that the "Family Plan" listed on the iPhone site is for two iPhones and that it will be $30 cheaper if I add a non-smartphone.

What AT&T should do is just say pick a plan, any plan, and add $30 for each iPhone data plan you want to add. Period.

I understand now that is what they are showing on the iPhone site - but it should be plain and clear... As a customer coming from a competitor I shouldn't have to dig through the entire AT&T website to figure out what it's going to cost in my scenario.
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Sorry for being rude. It is sometime tiring repeatedly typing the same thing over again.

I too agree. The iPhone isn't special, so it should be in the smartphone list like all the others. I think it is stupid to keep it separate. At the very minimum it is generating confusion amongst people who are supposed to be techy/bright imagine how confused everyone else could be.
 
CrazEtooN said:
You should have enough common sense to understand that the information contained on a SPECIAL page on the At&t website DEDICATED to iPhone info would contain the pricing for 2 iPhone 3G devices as the Family Plan example.

Don't get angry with us because you lack common sense.

Your example of pick a plan and add $30 to it for each iPhone is exactly what it is by the way (well, $39.99, but that is because each extra line costs $9.99. That is an At&t thing for ALL phones though, not just the iPhone). Again, common sense should have told you that, and it isn't our fault that it didn't. I personally thought it was pretty obvious...
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WOW!!! Is this what it takes to make you feel superior? I guess my PhD from Columbia hasn't blessed me with enough common sense to immediately INFER something not explicitly documented on a site meant to allow me to EASILY "pre-plan" my cost of ownership.

I do stand humbly corrected on one point, however, - I said conceited and I obviously meant jackass...
 
diamond.g said:
Sorry for being rude. It is sometime tiring repeatedly typing the same thing over again.

I too agree. The iPhone isn't special, so it should be in the smartphone list like all the others. I think it is stupid to keep it separate. At the very minimum it is generating confusion amongst people who are supposed to be techy/bright imagine how confused everyone else could be.
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It's no problem and I appreciate your help. This is exactly my point, I deal with complex problem solving every day and was, at first, confused.

I get it now - but as I said before, it should be immediately obvious on the AT&T iPhone page and I shouldn't have to post a question in a forum or dig through the entire AT&T wireless plan site to figure it out.
 
What's with all the arguing?

If you want 1 iPhone and 1 standard phone, then get a regular family plan from AT&T ($89.99) then add the iPhone's data plan ($119.99).

That's how you can tell the "AT&T iPhone Rate Plans" page meant two iPhone 3G lines. Sure, they're kinda stupid for not saying "includes two iPhone 3G lines", but it doesn't take too long to see such.
 
CrazEtooN said:
The $9.99 is added to the minutes plan. For example, At&t advertises the 2100 shared minutes plan as $109.99 for the first two lines. On the bill, however, it is actually $100 for the minutes and $9.99 for the second line.
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Got it....thanks. So my bill will be $50 (550 shared mins) + $9.99 phone #2 + $30 (iphone data) = $89.99 + applicable taxes.
 
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