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The buy something else comment is getting old.

Having a device that you only dislike one thing about (RAM in this case) is better then buying something else that you dislike 50 things about. Its not even an options.

That is just a statement from someone that has no intelligible comments on the subject. Like some have mentioned in other thread about different means of fixing tab reloading issues via software is at least a worthy post from someone thats open minded on the subject.

Absolutely. We can love iPhones and want to stay with iPhones, but be miffed about the RAM. I'm frankly astounded that the new models haven't got at least 1.5GB of RAM. We are obviously still waiting for the actual quota to be confirmed but the noises aren't good. Most don't seem to care about RAM and will be all over the new phones whatever. Others prefer the Apple Pay feature to anything else. It's a strange old world but app and webpage reloading is a real issue on mobile Apple devices and we should be able to debate the subject every bit as much as the people with their "which colour should I get?" threads.
 
The buy something else comment is getting old.

Having a device that you only dislike one thing about (RAM in this case) is better then buying something else that you dislike 50 things about. Its not even an options.

That is just a statement from someone that has no intelligible comments on the subject. Like some have mentioned in other thread about different means of fixing tab reloading issues via software is at least a worthy post from someone thats open minded on the subject.

You lack common sense. Keep your iphone and come here and complain about it for the next year because, in your own words, "you only dislike ONE thing" about it. Why aren't you on the other phone forums complaining about the 50 things you dislike about their phones.

Common sense and something better to do in life would help you a ton.
 
Huh? If you don't buy something else, what else are you going to do? Wait for the iPhone 7?

iphone 7!!! that's 2 years away, we have to have the iphone 6s and 6s+ next September with the bump in camera and battery life, maybe sapphire then and scream innovate!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
The reason the new iPhone 6 and plus both have 2GB RAM is what allows it to capture 240fps @720p in a buffer. Think about it. I'll almost guarantee both have 2GB of RAM.
 
The reason the new iPhone 6 and plus both have 2GB RAM is what allows it to capture 240fps @720p in a buffer. Think about it. I'll almost guarantee both have 2GB of RAM.

You're assuming bitrate doesn't change during the jump from 120fps to 240fps.
 
I am *hoping* 2GB. But will be pissed if they put it only in the 6+, that is a major thing to make the regular iPhone 6 inferior.
Well, the Plus is $100 more, so presumably you are paying that for more/better "stuff". Obviously the screen is larger and the OIS camera. But a little extra RAM would also fit nicely into that budget. Since I ordered a 6+ and was "forced" into the 64 GB $400 on-contract model (because 16 GB is a joke), I would like to feel I'm getting something extra for my money and more RAM would definitely make me feel better about it (while costing Apple very little margin). I believe the difference in cost for 1 GB of RAM is under $10 now, and almost certainly less with Apple's pre-cut mass quantity deals.
 
Well, the Plus is $100 more, so presumably you are paying that for more/better "stuff". Obviously the screen is larger and the OIS camera. But a little extra RAM would also fit nicely into that budget. Since I ordered a 6+ and was "forced" into the 64 GB $400 on-contract model (because 16 GB is a joke), I would like to feel I'm getting something extra for my money and more RAM would definitely make me feel better about it (while costing Apple very little margin). I believe the difference in cost for 1 GB of RAM is under $10 now, and almost certainly less with Apple's pre-cut mass quantity deals.

So you bought a phone you felt wasn't worth the cost....but you bought it anyway. Funny.
 
You lack common sense. Keep your iphone and come here and complain about it for the next year because, in your own words, "you only dislike ONE thing" about it. Why aren't you on the other phone forums complaining about the 50 things you dislike about their phones.

Common sense and something better to do in life would help you a ton.

Lol. Reread my post. I clearly said "having a device that YOU only dislike one thing...". I'm obviously not referring to myself, I would have used "I" in that sentence. Nor did I complain about the amount of RAM to further prove that point.

That post was in reference to the childish remark of someone blatantly saying "Go get something else" instead of having actual constructive criticism like many members on here do.

Thats funny you typed out what I said in quotes though. Work on the reading comprehension then get back to me about the whole common sense thing or whatever you're gong on about.
 
The RAM is housed on the A8 chip, right? Wouldn't economies of scale dictate that both devices will have identical A8 chips? Why go to the trouble of making them different? If they wanted to market the 6+ as the superior device, why would they not mention that it (supposedly) has double the RAM?
 
Lol. Reread my post. I clearly said "having a device that YOU only dislike one thing...". I'm obviously not referring to myself, I would have used "I" in that sentence. Nor did I complain about the amount of RAM to further prove that point.

That post was in reference to the childish remark of someone blatantly saying "Go get something else" instead of having actual constructive criticism like many members on here do.

Thats funny you typed out what I said in quotes though. Work on the reading comprehension then get back to me about the whole common sense thing or whatever you're gong on about.

Way to twist your intention. Now go on complaining about the one thing you don't like about a phone you don't have yet.
 
The RAM is housed on the A8 chip, right? Wouldn't economies of scale dictate that both devices will have identical A8 chips? Why go to the trouble of making them different? If they wanted to market the 6+ as the superior device, why would they not mention that it (supposedly) has double the RAM?
The DRAM is mounted adjacent to the SoC underneath a heat spreader.

Apple could fabricate one version of the A8 chip but two versions of the module with different DRAM configurations.

The iPad Air refresh will reportedly feature a module with an A8 chip and 2GB memory.
 
What if the iPhone 6 and plus both have 2gb ram

Maybe they did do 2gb on the plus because 1gb wasn't enough for it to compensate the resolution and everything else to maintain the same performance as the regular iphone 6. Who is saying that it would be superior than the regular 6 just cause it has 2gb? Maybe they just did to even it out. Regardless, I don't know and you don't know.
 
Maybe they did do 2gb on the plus because 1gb wasn't enough for it to compensate the resolution and everything else to maintain the same performance as the regular iphone 6. Who is saying that it would be superior than the regular 6 just cause it has 2gb? Maybe they just did to even it out. Regardless, I don't know and you don't know.

Indeed, I was thinking this. We can all agree that 1GB is minimal for a late 2014 premium smartphone, but if a bigger screened version is going to noticeably affect performance then maybe Apple are giving the 6+ more RAM just to compensate and not to make it higher performance than the 4.7" model.
 
What if the iPhone 6 and plus both have 2gb ram

People would be complaining it doesn't have 3-4GB. :p
 
6= 1gb
6+= 2gb

You're the king of wishful thinking
also, Correct me if I am wrong but isnt app/ tab refreshing considered a feature? don't people usually want the latest news from a site instead of having to refresh? Isnt security an issue for this? Like if you loose your phone your banking app "refreshes" to keep it safe?
I understand if an app crashes and you have a report for it but other than that..
1gb has been fine, people like to whine. Would I like 2gb for "future proofing"? Yeah but phones run on a 1 year life cycle.
I posted that on another one of these threads a moment ago
 
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I guarantee you that cost is something that is considered just as strongly as engineering challenges for every single component in the phone.
Of course cost is considered, but you're out of your mind if you think that saving $10 on a $650 sale is the reason for using 1GB. They'd have no hesitation whatsoever about bumping the price to 679 if throwing a few extra bucks at the phone would make the kind of difference you're pretending it does.
Spending an extra $10 on the 80 million estimated phones they are predicted to ship by the end of the year would be $800 million dollars against their bottom line.
Only if they ate the cost without passing it on to customers. And you've now gone from "it wouldn't hurt their bottom line that much" to "omg $800 million". Which is it?

They're already spending more on parts for the iPhone 6 than any previous phone, in absolute and proportional terms. If a few extra bucks to double the RAM would have really made a meaningful impact, it would have been on the parts list, too.

But of course it wasn't, because it isn't a matter of simple cost.
You really think something like that doesn't go into product decisions along with engineering issues? Of course it does.
Not in the way you're talking about, it doesn't.
 
I have yet to see a Developer come onto a "2gb vs 1gb" thread and say anything wrong with Apples memory management, its always consumers who heard 2 would be better than 1.
 
You're the king of wishful thinking
also, Correct me if I am wrong but isnt app/ tab refreshing considered a feature? don't people usually want the latest news from a site instead of having to refresh? Isnt security an issue for this? Like if you loose your phone your banking app "refreshes" to keep it safe?
I understand if an app crashes and you have a report for it but other than that..
1gb has been fine, people like to whine. Would I like 2gb for "future proofing"? Yeah but phones run on a 1 year life cycle.
I posted that on another one of these threads a moment ago

When you're filling out information on one tab, open a new tab or another app to get information out of it, then the tab you were typing in has to refresh and you lose all your work, that's not feature, security or otherwise. It's lack of RAM causing it. How you can possibly call an issue caused by a physical RAM limitation a security feature is the most utterly retarded thing I've heard in those whole RAM debacle.
 
Of course cost is considered, but you're out of your mind if you think that saving $10 on a $650 sale is the reason for using 1GB. They'd have no hesitation whatsoever about bumping the price to 679 if throwing a few extra bucks at the phone would make the kind of difference you're pretending it does.

And your out of your mind if you think the cost of each and every component isn't considered, especially if it would increase the end sales cost.

Only if they ate the cost without passing it on to customers. And you've now gone from "it wouldn't hurt their bottom line that much" to "omg $800 million". Which is it?

I never mentioned anything about them raising their prices, you did. You don't think the company doesn't have a price point they want to hit for their devices? Of course they do, so they take into account things like the cost of more RAM vs other things you mentioned.

They're already spending more on parts for the iPhone 6 than any previous phone, in absolute and proportional terms. If a few extra bucks to double the RAM would have really made a meaningful impact, it would have been on the parts list, too.

Right, so that is EXACTLY why the cost of RAM is considered when choosing to include more or not.

But of course it wasn't, because it isn't a matter of simple cost.

No it isn't just a matter of simple cost. It is a matter of cost vs performance vs selling price.
 
And your out of your mind if you think the cost of each and every component isn't considered, especially if it would increase the end sales cost.
You said, "with the extraordinary profit margins they have on these phones it wouldn't hurt that much to bump the RAM they put in them."

I am explaining to you that it doesn't have anything to do with profit margins in this case, because the decision is primarily constrained by engineering, not costs. How you make the leap from that to pretending that they're not looking at costs at all is a mystery.
No it isn't just a matter of simple cost. It is a matter of cost vs performance vs selling price.
Absolutely, but that's not what we're talking about. You were whining about them being too cheap to increase the RAM, and you're wrong.

If they were doing it to be cheap, they wouldn't have increased the overall BOM on other components. It's a competitive landscape and they're performance-oriented. They wouldn't have batted an eye at spending a few bucks for more RAM if it were just about costs.
 
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