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Cheers he's a boy, I think personally the camera does a pretty good job from my experience so far but I'm sure the same as any on a phone will have its limitations in certain areas.

Edited the link so exif data can be seen.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/128425365@N08/15436506645/

When you view the original at full size, and zoom in per OPs claim, you'll see crisp, amazing detail. You can count the wrinkles on the dogs tongue and even see a tiny brown dot right at the tip.

Pretty damn good for a camera phone.

Great looking pic of a cute dog. Case closed, OP debunked.
 
When you view the original at full size, and zoom in per OPs claim, you'll see crisp, amazing detail. You can count the wrinkles on the dogs tongue and even see a tiny brown dot right at the tip.



Pretty damn good for a camera phone.



Great looking pic of a cute dog. Case closed, OP debunked.


Cheers buddy I'm very happy with the quality if others aren't I'm sorry for them.
 
Don't know what point your trying to make but this image was uploaded to Flickr with no resizing by me, just accept it's a decent example of an image without any so called smudging and move on.

Um no, doesn't count if resized

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When you view the original at full size, and zoom in per OPs claim, you'll see crisp, amazing detail. You can count the wrinkles on the dogs tongue and even see a tiny brown dot right at the tip.

Pretty damn good for a camera phone.

Great looking pic of a cute dog. Case closed, OP debunked.

How can you debunk a claim of crappy photos at full size by posting a pic that's been resized?
 
Um no, doesn't count if resized

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How can you debunk a claim of crappy photos at full size by posting a pic that's been resized?


The guy just wants a bite ignore him, it's been cropped slightly which makes no difference as to the sharpness...zzzzz
 
The smearing you are seeing is the noise reduction. It's not a lack of detail from the lens or sensor.

For some reason Apple set the noise reduction REALLY high this time, so when it sees any noise in the photo, it smears some pixels together to get rid of it. I knew the. Moment I saw it what the problem was, because Sony point and shoots have the same problem and they drive me crazy. If you zoom in a lot on some Sony cameras the whole thing looks like a watercolor painting! :eek:

I can prove this to you. Take a photo on really bright sunlight of something with some good detail, like flowers. You won't see this smearing effect much or at all, because there won't be noise in really good lighting.

Now, take a picture in lower lighting with no flash. Like outside at dusk or inside with not many lights on. You probably won't see noise, but our old friend the smearing effect will come out to play. :confused:

Now, here is the good news. Apple can easily change the noise reduction level with software updates, and I'm pretty sure they will. I'm sure they are hearing complaints, and they are a very responsive company. I wish I could say the same for my Sony cameras. Those things will never get a firmware update.
 
And here's an example have a look at the focus area, no smudging!!

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1412642674.477630.jpg
 
Um no, doesn't count if resized

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How can you debunk a claim of crappy photos at full size by posting a pic that's been resized?

He posted it in full resolution. If you know how to use flickr you can see the full sized version.
 
You're posting a resized pic the size of a playing card what do you expect?

IDK looks 1024x768 on my 21" screen so not playing card size…
Have you tried to, you know, to click on it…

If you don't even know how to expand a picture, I can't take you seriously on your camera expertise.
 
What is your basis for this claim?

The basis? Seriously my basis is that it's resized

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The guy just wants a bite ignore him, it's been cropped slightly which makes no difference as to the sharpness...zzzzz

I wasn't talking about cropping I was talking about resizing

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IDK looks 1024x768 on my 21" screen so not playing card size…
Have you tried to, you know, to click on it…

If you don't even know how to expand a picture, I can't take you seriously on your camera expertise.

That would make it .8 megapixel sooo
 
Don't know what point your trying to make but this image was uploaded to Flickr with no resizing by me, just accept it's a decent example of an image without any so called smudging and move on.

Sorry I don't know how to manipulate crappy image hosting sites but that pic you posted is not full size so doesn't count.

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Yes this pic does look decent. See that pic was full size. The smudging doesn't happen with all pics but it DOES happen, in all phones. So that points to it being noise reduction.

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Don't know what point your trying to make but this image was uploaded to Flickr with no resizing by me, just accept it's a decent example of an image without any so called smudging and move on.

I took a couple 100% crops from your full size picture, you can clearly see the smudging. It's likely unnecessary noise reduction

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One more just to see if I can convince you.

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Please post the full size pic.
 
Sorry I don't know how to manipulate crappy image hosting sites but that pic you posted is not full size so doesn't count.

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Yes this pic does look decent. See that pic was full size. The smudging doesn't happen with all pics but it DOES happen, in all phones. So that points to it being noise reduction.

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I took a couple 100% crops from your full size picture, you can clearly see the smudging. It's likely unnecessary noise reduction

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Please post the full size pic.

So, as I said before, the problem is the noise reduction. What are you hoping to prove at this point? Yes, it's set too high. Yes, that sucks on some photos. Yes, Apple will probably fix it in a future update by setting it lower or tweaking the algorithm. Can we move on now?

If you don't like the camera, TAKE YOUR PHONE BACK! Or better yet, get a real camera and quit worrying about trying to get beautiful DSLR-quality images from a freaking phone camera already.

Many of us are over the moon about the improvements to the camera, myself included. This is in spite of the fact that the noise reduction is too high. I still absolutely love the camera. If you don't, there is a return policy for situations just like this.
 
Camera manfacturers have been known to take say a 9 megapix camera and blow it up in camera to 16mp and then advertise it as such.

BS. This claim is absolute [citation needed] and should be presumed false until the OP provides reputable sources.

If a manufacturer advertised an 16 MP camera but which actually only had an 8 MP sensor which software scaled the image up to 16 MP, and they didn't disclose that info in a clear manner, then that manufacturer would get shut down by the FTC.

This whole thread is based on foundation of BS.
 
BS. This claim is absolute [citation needed] and should be presumed false until the OP provides reputable sources.

If a manufacturer advertised an 16 MP camera but which actually only had an 8 MP sensor which software scaled the image up to 16 MP, and they didn't disclose that info in a clear manner, then that manufacturer would get shut down by the FTC.

This whole thread is based on foundation of BS.

That claim is not BS. I don't have to prove anything to anyone.

And you are totally wrong.

See the part here about true resolution

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-ELPH-110-HS-vs-Canon-Powershot-S110

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So, as I said before, the problem is the noise reduction. What are you hoping to prove at this point? Yes, it's set too high. Yes, that sucks on some photos. Yes, Apple will probably fix it in a future update by setting it lower or tweaking the algorithm. Can we move on now?

If you don't like the camera, TAKE YOUR PHONE BACK! Or better yet, get a real camera and quit worrying about trying to get beautiful DSLR-quality images from a freaking phone camera already.

Many of us are over the moon about the improvements to the camera, myself included. This is in spite of the fact that the noise reduction is too high. I still absolutely love the camera. If you don't, there is a return policy for situations just like this.

Why would I take my phone back over the camera???
I have plenty of real cameras.
 
That claim is not BS. I don't have to prove anything to anyone.

You do if you want to have a legitimate discussion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof


And you are totally wrong.

Again, your words are meaningless unless you cite an example when this has ever happened before.


See the part here about true resolution

This link says absolutely nothing about your claim.
 
That claim is not BS. I don't have to prove anything to anyone.

And you are totally wrong.

See the part here about true resolution

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-ELPH-110-HS-vs-Canon-Powershot-S110

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Why would I take my phone back over the camera???
I have plenty of real cameras.

I've searched google and I can find no references to that camera not being 16 megapixels. I'm guessing it was a typo on that site.

The only time I've heard a camera mentioned as a higher megapixel, is when they were talking about the foveon sensors. Because of the way they work, a 15MP sensor will produce essentially a 5MP image.
 
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