What if the iPhone 6 was made completely out of Sapphire crystal?

[goobot]

Do you have a link to that? Sapphire has a higher light refracting index then glass.

While I don't know the tech used that's like saying lead is lighter then wood. Technically that could be true depending on quantity but only in the proper context.

Drop pressure stress and failures has been proven time and time again. Not sure where you got that information, it's not even close.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7Qtp6Iv7a0&t=29m38s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5zt1V7H88I&t=2m5s

In both of these videos apple talks about how it allows better images and allows for a clearer image, meaning more light comes through.

Glass is known to have a weak molecular structure, which is why it breaks easier when dropped, other materials don't have this weakness.

 

[cynics]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7Qtp6Iv7a0&t=29m38s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5zt1V7H88I&t=2m5s

In both of these videos apple talks about how it allows better images and allows for a clearer image, meaning more light comes through.

Glass is known to have a weak molecular structure, which is why it breaks easier when dropped, other materials don't have this weakness.

You are looking at marketing I'm referring to actual science.

Sapphire is used for optics (camera and TouchID) because of its scratch resistance. A single scratch can result in either of those devices not working or not working properly. Its the same reason the military uses sapphire for their optics.

The optics of a camera in a smart phone camera, touchID sensor, military image capturing devices etc etc are at a very high risk of being scratched because all those things see a lot of abuse.

If it was actually "better" as a screen or lens then it would be used in telescopes, DSLR cameras, professional video equipment, satellite imagery, etc etc. Problem is its not, there was no reason to use sapphire when building the Hubble telescope because its kept flawless so they used glass.

If there is no need for scratch resistance its not used (sapphire).

Yes, glass is know for shattering there is no denying that. So is sapphire.

BTW, I'm just talking the facts I'm find for "sapphire" (light refraction index, scratch resistance, etc). I don't know if there will be something different that Apple does too it to make it even more durable. Similar to how there is "glass" but once altered you get Pyrex, DragonTrail, Gorilla Glass, etc etc. Still considered glass but much more durable then glass in its purest form.

 

[teknikal90]

The original deep sea diving and moon landings watches had plastic 'crystals' as sapphire is prone to cracking, and in the case of the Apollo missions, NASA didn't want small sharp pieces floating around the space capsule. Hesalite plastic was chosen over sapphire and glass for the Omega Speedmaster (NASA) and original Rolex Submariner watches.

very interesting

 

[Norbury]

You are looking at marketing I'm referring to actual science.

Sapphire is used for optics (camera and TouchID) because of its scratch resistance. A single scratch can result in either of those devices not working or not working properly. Its the same reason the military uses sapphire for their optics.

The optics of a camera in a smart phone camera, touchID sensor, military image capturing devices etc etc are at a very high risk of being scratched because all those things see a lot of abuse.

If it was actually "better" as a screen or lens then it would be used in telescopes, DSLR cameras, professional video equipment, satellite imagery, etc etc. Problem is its not, there was no reason to use sapphire when building the Hubble telescope because its kept flawless so they used glass.

If there is no need for scratch resistance its not used (sapphire).

Yes, glass is know for shattering there is no denying that. So is sapphire.

BTW, I'm just talking the facts I'm find for "sapphire" (light refraction index, scratch resistance, etc). I don't know if there will be something different that Apple does too it to make it even more durable. Similar to how there is "glass" but once altered you get Pyrex, DragonTrail, Gorilla Glass, etc etc. Still considered glass but much more durable then glass in its purest form.

Glass in a telescope? Only in civilian ones. Certainly not in Hubble. Accurate mirrors don't use glass, just bare metal.

http://hubblesite.org/the_telescope/hubble_essentials/

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Glass in a telescope? Only in civilian ones. Certainly not in Hubble. Accurate mirrors don't use glass, just bare metal.

http://hubblesite.org/the_telescope/hubble_essentials/

I disagree.

http://hubblesite.org/the_telescope/hubble_essentials/

http://hubblesite.org/the_telescope/hubble_essentials/quick_facts.php

 

[x-evil-x]

My point is that sapphire shatters easily.

not really. they wanted to use something that wouldn't harm the person behind it. Plastic doesn't shatter but they don't care much about clarity(to a certain point) over safety. You don't look through an iPhone like a helmets glass. There is no risk of it shattering and damaging eyes with a phone. They have totally different uses.

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You are looking at marketing I'm referring to actual science.

Sapphire is used for optics (camera and TouchID) because of its scratch resistance. A single scratch can result in either of those devices not working or not working properly. Its the same reason the military uses sapphire for their optics.

The optics of a camera in a smart phone camera, touchID sensor, military image capturing devices etc etc are at a very high risk of being scratched because all those things see a lot of abuse.

If it was actually "better" as a screen or lens then it would be used in telescopes, DSLR cameras, professional video equipment, satellite imagery, etc etc. Problem is its not, there was no reason to use sapphire when building the Hubble telescope because its kept flawless so they used glass.

If there is no need for scratch resistance its not used (sapphire).

Yes, glass is know for shattering there is no denying that. So is sapphire.

BTW, I'm just talking the facts I'm find for "sapphire" (light refraction index, scratch resistance, etc). I don't know if there will be something different that Apple does too it to make it even more durable. Similar to how there is "glass" but once altered you get Pyrex, DragonTrail, Gorilla Glass, etc etc. Still considered glass but much more durable then glass in its purest form.

but what about comparing the level of clearness to current gorilla glass.

 

[cynics]

What if the iPhone 6 was made completely out of Sapphire crystal?

Glass in a telescope? Only in civilian ones. Certainly not in Hubble. Accurate mirrors don't use glass, just bare metal.



http://hubblesite.org/the_telescope/hubble_essentials/

Hubble's mirrors are made of ultra-low expansion glass and kept at a nearly constant room temperature (about 70 degrees Fahrenheit) to avoid warping. The reflecting surfaces are coated with a 3/1,000,000th-inch layer of pure aluminum and protected by a 1/1,000,000th-inch layer of magnesium fluoride. The magnesium fluoride makes the mirrors more reflective of ultraviolet light.

http://hubblesite.org/the_telescope/nuts_.and._bolts/optics/

The reflecting surface is metal and it's not bare since it has a protective coating. Regardless, it's not sapphire which is the topic of the thread.

 

[Norbury]

http://hubblesite.org/the_telescope/nuts_.and._bolts/optics/

The reflecting surface is metal and it's not bare since it has a protective coating. Regardless, it's not sapphire which is the topic of the thread.

Good spot, still, I was objecting to the idea that glass was interacting with the light, rather than working as a substrate.

 

[cynics]

Good spot, still, I was objecting to the idea that glass was interacting with the light, rather than working as a substrate.

My point (before we got a bit off topic lol) was glass refracts light less then sapphire thats why its used for optics even when money is of no consequence. Sapphire is specifically used for optics when the potential for it getting scratched is high and will hurt device operation. But not cause its better for optics.

Google image search "iPhone 5 lens flare". I'm willing to bet you'll get a wall of purple.

 

[Dubberton]

if it is, you can count on paying a lot more for an iPhone

 

[iCore24]

Don't any of you remember a phone almost made completely of glass?

IPHONE 4!! It had a glass back and front. I don't see why they won't go with that design again with Saphire.

 

[MrX8503]

Don't any of you remember a phone almost made completely of glass?

IPHONE 4!! It had a glass back and front. I don't see why they won't go with that design again with Saphire.

I think it would be cool to see the return of the iPhone 4 design, but I don't think its going to happen. I think Apple prefers an all metal phone due to heat dissipation.

 

[eeyoredragon]

I heard it will use transparent aluminum!

That way it can potentially save you from .50 caliber rounds.

Thanks, Apple!

 

[iolinux333]

I heard it will use transparent aluminum!

That way it can potentially save you from .50 caliber rounds.

Thanks, Apple!

Sapphire is aluminum mixed with some other magic stuff and fire to make it transparent.

 

[DanTSX]

Do you have a link to that? Sapphire has a higher light refracting index then glass.

While I don't know the tech used that's like saying lead is lighter then wood. Technically that could be true depending on quantity but only in the proper context.

Drop pressure stress and failures has been proven time and time again. Not sure where you got that information, it's not even close.

That is because of other properties.