What is enlightenment?

[macgeek2005]

Alright here we go. This is the thread that was requested by the authorities.

The kissing thread can be locked.

So.. yeah. I am awake. And what I mean by that is, I can look on life from outside. If the world and all of you guys are like a school of fish underwater, I am watching you all from outside of the ocean. That's the best analogy I can think of.

Nothing bothers me. I know that it's all thoughts, and if you ever feel anger it's because you're arguing with reality, which is hopeless.

 

[Qoxiivi]

Nice one. Let me know how that works out for you.

 

[Blue Velvet]

Not creating delusions is enlightenment.
—Bodhidharma

 

[Mr. Anderson]

I'm confused - looking at life from the outside?

Enlightenment would be more of a deeper understanding of something, something more profound and it doesn't require looking at things from a different perspective (but that can help), its just understanding something you didn't know before (or something you didn't even know existed).

D

 

[njmac]

Nothing bothers me. I know that it's all thoughts, and if you ever feel anger it's because you're arguing with reality, which is hopeless.

Wait until you have kids.

 

[jsw]

True enlightenment does not come from reading New Age philosophy.

And true enlightenment doesn't discount emotion.

"Enlightenment" is a nice little money-maker for gurus and the Church of Scientology to suck in people who need a crutch.

Just my opinion.

 

[macgeek2005]

If there was an identity left that I was still attachted too, it would be working great for him, whoever it would be.

As it is, I am in a world of loving clarity. I see everything exactly as it is, without a story about it.

Who would you be without your story? Because that is who you really are. Love. Pure love. Loving everything and being loved by everything.

 

[jsw]

If there was an identity left that I was still attachted too...

Um... if there isn't an identity left, how are you posting?

 

[jelloshotsrule]

so you have a two way mirror in your bathroom or what? maybe that's why you haven't brushed your teeth in so long.

not that i'd understand. i'm still asleep. completely asleep.

 

[kretzy]

Shouldn't you have moved beyond living creatures and their reincarnative habits, into Nirvana already?

 

[macgeek2005]

Um... if there isn't an identity left, how are you posting?

Through the identity that I am not attached too.

 

[ManchesterTrix]

It could be worse, he could have read Rand instead of Katie.

 

[jsw]

Through the identity that I am not attached too.

Then whose opinions are we seeing? The old identities? Because if they're yours, you're still attached.

It could be worse, he could have read Rand instead of Katie.

Rand isn't as easily digested and regurgitated.

 

[vniow]

Through the identity that I am not attached too.

If you're not attached to it, why are you using it to post here?

 

[macgeek2005]

Then whose opinions are we seeing? The old identities? Because if they're yours, you're still attached.

Rand isn't as easily digested and regurgitated.

They are macgeek's opinions, but "I" the true "I", is not attached to that identity.

 

[jsw]

They are macgeek's opinions, but "I" the true "I", is not attached to that identity.

Then why post? Your enlightenment seems to contain no logic and no reason.

 

[xsedrinam]

"Enlightenment" is on a par with apathy, to which the standard reply is presently apropos: "I don't know and don't care".

 

[jelloshotsrule]

If you're not attached to it, why are you using it to post here?

you and jsw and manchestertrix and all the others are being so dumb. you are asleep. wake up and then maybe you can understand. but your chances aren't too good..

a few dozen out of the entire population?

30/6.6 billion

roughly

4.5327 x e^-9

good luck team

 

[macgeek2005]

Then why post? Your enlightenment seems to contain no logic and no reason.

I'm not gonna kill myself. Being free doesn't mean being stupid.

Therefore, i'm gonna do something in my 100 years here on earth.

Why not post here?

 

[jelloshotsrule]

Therefore, i'm gonna do something in my 100 years here on earth.

i'm assuming that you saw that you had 100 years from the outside looking in? or did you just guesstimate?

 

[jsw]

I just had a venti iced coffee with four shots of espresso. If anyone is more awake than me, I'd like to meet them. Or maybe not....

 

[calculus]

If the world and all of you guys are like a school of fish underwater, I am watching you all from outside of the ocean.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

 

[macgeek2005]

I just had a venti iced coffee with four shots of espresso. If anyone is more awake than me, I'd like to meet them. Or maybe not....

I love you guys.

 

[floriflee]

This enlightenment that you speak of seems to be a good scapegoat for not taking responsibility for your own thoughts or actions. "It wasn't ME that was angry at all the PC users. It was the macgeek that was...." Sounds almost schizophrenic....

 

[Lau]

Nothing bothers me.

Apart from your brother beating you at tabletop football, of all things?!

You're just making it up.